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This afternoon Rotowire.com is assembling 15 owners for an NFBC-style mock draft with the results appearing in their magazine next month. I'm one of the drafters and looking forward to the 23-round draft. I'll tease some early results here and give you folks some data to nibble on. Should be fun.

I don't have draft order just yet, but look for that soon and be ready to help the Commish out!!

Not that any of these industry writers should be influenced by this, but we are using MockDraftCentral.com and their player default rankings will be there for everyone to use. I see some variations from the player default list we will have in our draft software, which makes things interesting. Here are the first 45 players on MDC's ADP list:

1) Matt Kemp OF LA
2) Ryan Braun OF MIL
3) Albert Pujols 1B
4) Miguel Cabrera 1B DET
5) Jose Bautista OF,3B TOR
6) Justin Verlander SP DET
7) Adrian Gonzalez 1B BOS
8) Troy Tulowitzki SS COL 8.22
9) Justin Upton OF ARI
10) Evan Longoria 3B TB
11) Joey Votto 1B CIN
12) Robinson Cano 2B NYY
13) Roy Halladay SP PHI
14) Jacoby Ellsbury OF BOS
15) Prince Fielder 1B FA
16) Clayton Kershaw SP LA
17) Jose Reyes SS MIA
18) Carlos Gonzalez OF COL
19) Curtis Granderson OF NYY
20) Dustin Pedroia 2B BOS
21) Cliff Lee SP PHI
22) Hanley Ramirez SS MIA
23) Tim Lincecum SP SF
24) Andrew McCutchen OF PIT
25) Felix Hernandez SP SEA
26) Mike Stanton OF MIA
27) Josh Hamilton OF TEX
28) Ian Kinsler 2B TEX
29) Jered Weaver SP ANA
30) Mark Teixeira 1B NYY
31) CC Sabathia SP NYY
32) Carl Crawford OF BOS
33) David Wright 3B NYM
34) Adrian Beltre 3B TEX
35) Cole Hamels SP PHI
36) Jay Bruce OF CIN
37) Elvis Andrus SS TEX
38) Matt Holliday OF STL
39) Dan Haren SP ANA
40) Ryan Zimmerman 3B WAS
41) David Price SP TB
42) Carlos Santana C,1B CLE
43) Brian McCann C ATL
44) Paul Konerko 1B,DH CHW
45) Hunter Pence OF PHI

Thoughts?

Outside of the obvious in Braun....

I'd be surprised if pitching went as high in our drafts. I don't think I've been a part of an NFBC draft where three pitchers went in the first 16 picks.

Tulo and Ellsbury seem to be more highly regarded by the NFBC crowd than elsewhere.

I agree, I would expect each of those pitchers to have NFBC ADPs about 5-10 spots lower than listed on that order. I wouldn't be surprised to see Reyes end up with a 1st round ADP, and Kinser to move closer to the first half of round 2 than the second half. I think the hype will move Stanton up a few spots as we get closer to live draft day as well.

Okay, I've got the fourth pick today. Sure wish Braunie hadn't been suspected (ALLEGEDLY) of using PEDs. Now it's time to make some decisions:
Kemp
Pujols
Cabrera
Tulo
Adrian Gonzalez

Whatcha got for me?

Kemp and Pujols will more than likely be gone.
Miggy is solid year in year out. But may be gone too.
Tulo strong pick, position plays a factor.
Gonzalez injury history might scare me at 4th pick.
Find this year's Kemp and you will have a leg up.

Can't go wrong with Anyone after Pujols and Kemp. Tulo gets a leg up for position scarcity, but my preference is the .325/35/125 that you are almost guaranteed with Miggy or Adrian. Injuries also play a factor with Tulo.

Better not leave anyone good for that dude after you...

First round is not about gambling. If Miggy is there...TAKE HIM!

Here's the first round:

R1 P1 ScottPianowski Bautista, Jose OF, 3B TOR 9s
R1 P2 Ray Flowers Kemp, Matt OF LA 15s
R1 P3 Chris Liss Pujols, Albert 1B ANA 7s
R1 P4 Greg Ambrosius Cabrera, Miguel 1B DET 9s
R1 P5 Todd Zola Tulowitzki, Troy SS COL 55s
R1 P6 Jock Thompson Longoria, Evan 3B TB 16s
R1 P7 Steve Moyer Votto, Joey 1B CIN 4m 53s
R1 P8 SteveGardner Upton, Justin OF ARI 4s
R1 P9 JohnHalpin Ellsbury, Jacoby OF BOS 23s
R1 P10 Peter Kreutzer Gonzalez, Carlos OF COL 10s
R1 P11 DVR Cano, Robinson 2B NYY 29s
R1 P12 Erick Karabell Gonzalez, Adrian 1B BOS 45s
R1 P13 Jeff Erickson - RotoWire Fielder, Prince 1B FA 31s
R1 P14 Tim Heaney Teixeira, Mark 1B NYY 10s
R1 P15 Lawr Michaels Ramirez, Hanley SS MIA
9s

Tom Kessenich wrote:Here's the first round:

1. Jose Bautista
2. Albert Pujols
3. Miguel Cabrera
4. Troy Tulowitzki
5. Evan Longoria
6. Joey Votto
7. Justin Upton
8. Jacoby Ellsbury
9. Carlos Gonzalez
10. Robinson Cano
11. Adrian Gonzalez
12. Prince Fielder
13. Mark Teixeira
14. Hanley Ramirez
15. Ian Kinsler

Color me shocked that Kemp wasn't anywhere in the first 15 picks... did I miss some news?

Tom Kessenich wrote:Here's the first round:

1. Jose Bautista
2. Albert Pujols
3. Miguel Cabrera
4. Troy Tulowitzki
5. Evan Longoria
6. Joey Votto
7. Justin Upton
8. Jacoby Ellsbury
9. Carlos Gonzalez
10. Robinson Cano
11. Adrian Gonzalez
12. Prince Fielder
13. Mark Teixeira
14. Hanley Ramirez
15. Ian Kinsler

You can set my KDS right now for the 1-2 turn if that's what can be expected as a typical first round. Where the hell is Kemp?

Second round:

R2 P1 Lawr Michaels Kinsler, Ian 2B TEX 14s
R2 P2 Tim Heaney Wright, David 3B NYM 25s
R2 P3 Jeff Erickson - RotoWire Granderson, Curtis OF NYY 36s
R2 P4 Erick Karabell Pedroia, Dustin 2B BOS 44s
R2 P5 DVR Reyes, Jose SS MIA
4s
R2 P6 Peter Kreutzer Zimmerman, Ryan 3B WAS 13s
R2 P7 JohnHalpin Halladay, Roy SP PHI 25s
R2 P8 SteveGardner Verlander, Justin SP DET 42s
R2 P9 Steve Moyer Stanton, Mike OF MIA
35s
R2 P10 Jock Thompson Hernandez, Felix SP SEA 10s
R2 P11 Todd Zola Crawford, Carl OF BOS 16s
R2 P12 Greg Ambrosius McCutchen, Andrew OF PIT 46s
R2 P13 Chris Liss Kershaw, Clayton SP LA 5s
R2 P14 Ray Flowers Lee, Cliff SP PHI 35s
R2 P15 ScottPianowski Victorino, Shane OF PHI 48s

Ryan Braun went at 3-12.

Kemp went 2nd
HanRam at 15

shazballz wrote:Kemp went 2nd
HanRam at 15

Yeah I posted the first round wrong. Sorry about that everyone. It's correct now.

Ya might think some of these guys are drafting for something to blog about rather than winning.

Pitching sure went early.

the 2nd round was much better than the first. Bautista #1? teixeira? the equivalent of Joba as #1 sp a few years ago.

The guy who took Bautista first overall then followed up with Victorino in the 2nd round should be banned for the remainder of the draft right now.

KJ Duke wrote:The guy who took Bautista first overall then followed up with Victorino in the 2nd round should be banned for the remainder of the draft right now.

Greg Ambrosius wrote:This afternoon Rotowire.com is assembling 15 owners for an NFBC-style mock draft with the results appearing in their magazine next month. I'm one of the drafters and looking forward to the 23-round draft. I'll tease some early results here and give you folks some data to nibble on. Should be fun.

I don't have draft order just yet, but look for that soon and be ready to help the Commish out!!

Greg (and Tom), thanks for sharing.

If you can spill further details about the draft, without Rotowire sending goons after you, please do.

KJ Duke wrote:The guy who took Bautista first overall then followed up with Victorino in the 2nd round should be banned for the remainder of the draft right now.

I completely concur. I think sometimes these "experts" like to be all cute and controversial in an attempt to come off looking innovative and ingenious, but it's just plain dumb to those of us who actually play and win these competitions.

Baseball Furies wrote:

KJ Duke wrote:The guy who took Bautista first overall then followed up with Victorino in the 2nd round should be banned for the remainder of the draft right now.

I completely concur. I think sometimes these "experts" like to be all cute and controversial in an attempt to come off looking innovative and ingenious, but it's just plain dumb to those of us who actually play and win these competitions.

I don't agree with the pick, but I recall many mocking Shandler for choosing Braun second overall last year in an early industry draft. If you believe in a guy and have valid reasons for doing so, I say run with him.

I apologize for not posting more results earlier, but I had something come up during this draft and I had to call Tom in from the bullpen before it was complete. I didn't get the time to post these early results like I originally wanted to.

But thanks to Jeff Erickson for gathering all 15 owners together and running an NFBC-style draft for 23 rounds. I'm positive that Rotowire's readers will enjoy this content in the magazine and I'm sure it's already being talked about on Sirius Radio's Fantasy Channel. I'll be on with Jeff on Friday at 11:30 am ET to talk about this draft and more about the NFBC. Tune in.

Anyway, I'm sure Jeff wouldn't mind if we debate the first six rounds. There's plenty here, especially where Ryan Braun landed, where the Starting Pitchers went, top picks and more. Here are the results and let's have a fun discussion:

Rotowire.com Magazine Industry Draft
15 Teams, NFBC-Style 5x5
Round 1:
R1 P1 ScottPianowski Bautista, Jose OF, 3B TOR 9s
R1 P2 Ray Flowers Kemp, Matt OF LA 15s
R1 P3 Chris Liss Pujols, Albert 1B ANA 7s
R1 P4 Greg Ambrosius Cabrera, Miguel 1B DET 9s
R1 P5 Todd Zola Tulowitzki, Troy SS COL 55s
R1 P6 Jock Thompson Longoria, Evan 3B TB 16s
R1 P7 Steve Moyer Votto, Joey 1B CIN 4m 53s
R1 P8 SteveGardner Upton, Justin OF ARI 4s
R1 P9 JohnHalpin Ellsbury, Jacoby OF BOS 23s
R1 P10 Peter Kreutzer Gonzalez, Carlos OF COL 10s
R1 P11 DVR Cano, Robinson 2B NYY 29s
R1 P12 Erick Karabell Gonzalez, Adrian 1B BOS 45s
R1 P13 Jeff Erickson - RotoWire Fielder, Prince 1B FA 31s
R1 P14 Tim Heaney Teixeira, Mark 1B NYY 10s
R1 P15 Lawr Michaels Ramirez, Hanley SS MIA
9s

Round 2:
R2 P1 Lawr Michaels Kinsler, Ian 2B TEX 14s
R2 P2 Tim Heaney Wright, David 3B NYM 25s
R2 P3 Jeff Erickson - RotoWire Granderson, Curtis OF NYY 36s
R2 P4 Erick Karabell Pedroia, Dustin 2B BOS 44s
R2 P5 DVR Reyes, Jose SS MIA
4s
R2 P6 Peter Kreutzer Zimmerman, Ryan 3B WAS 13s
R2 P7 JohnHalpin Halladay, Roy SP PHI 25s
R2 P8 SteveGardner Verlander, Justin SP DET 42s
R2 P9 Steve Moyer Stanton, Mike OF MIA
35s
R2 P10 Jock Thompson Hernandez, Felix SP SEA 10s
R2 P11 Todd Zola Crawford, Carl OF BOS 16s
R2 P12 Greg Ambrosius McCutchen, Andrew OF PIT 46s
R2 P13 Chris Liss Kershaw, Clayton SP LA 5s
R2 P14 Ray Flowers Lee, Cliff SP PHI 35s
R2 P15 ScottPianowski Victorino, Shane OF PHI 48s

Round 3:
R3 P1 ScottPianowski Martinez, Victor DH, C DET 4s
R3 P2 Ray Flowers Hamilton, Josh OF TEX 41s
R3 P3 Chris Liss Castro, Starlin SS CHC 27s
R3 P4 Greg Ambrosius Lincecum, Tim SP SF 21s
R3 P5 Todd Zola Weaver, Jered SP ANA 3s
R3 P6 Jock Thompson Santana, Carlos C, 1B CLE 8s
R3 P7 Steve Moyer Sandoval, Pablo 3B SF 19s
R3 P8 SteveGardner Beltre, Adrian 3B TEX 17s
R3 P9 JohnHalpin Zobrist, Ben 2B, RF TB 14s
R3 P10 Peter Kreutzer Pence, Hunter OF PHI 9s
R3 P11 DVR Napoli, Mike C, 1B TEX 32s
R3 P12 Erick Karabell Braun, Ryan OF MIL 12s
R3 P13 Jeff Erickson - RotoWire McCann, Brian C ATL 38s
R3 P14 Tim Heaney Andrus, Elvis SS TEX 9s
R3 P15 Lawr Michaels Youkilis, Kevin 3B BOS 7s

Round 4:
R4 P1 Lawr Michaels Holliday, Matt OF STL 9s
R4 P2 Tim Heaney Weeks, Rickie 2B MIL 50s
R4 P3 Jeff Erickson - RotoWire Hamels, Cole SP PHI 27s
R4 P4 Erick Karabell Sabathia, CC SP NYY 47s
R4 P5 DVR Rodriguez, Alex 3B NYY 4s
R4 P6 Peter Kreutzer Rollins, Jimmy SS PHI 26s
R4 P7 JohnHalpin Hosmer, Eric 1B KC 37s
R4 P8 SteveGardner Phillips, Brandon 2B CIN 1m 18s
R4 P9 Steve Moyer Uggla, Dan 2B ATL 25s
R4 P10 Jock Thompson Bourn, Michael OF ATL 7s
R4 P11 Todd Zola Cruz, Nelson OF TEX 13s
R4 P12 Greg Ambrosius Bruce, Jay OF CIN 1m 19s
R4 P13 Chris Liss Gordon, Alex OF KC 10s
R4 P14 Ray Flowers Konerko, Paul 1B, DH CHW 10s
R4 P15 ScottPianowski Utley, Chase 2B PHI 5s

Round 5:
R5 P1 ScottPianowski Jennings, Desmond OF TB 4s
R5 P2 Ray Flowers Young, Michael DH, 1B, 3B TEX 29s
R5 P3 Chris Liss Posey, Buster C SF 51s
R5 P4 Greg Ambrosius Ramirez, Aramis 3B MIL 46s
R5 P5 Todd Zola Lawrie, Brett 3B TOR 17s
R5 P6 Jock Thompson Wieters, Matt C BAL 7s
R5 P7 Steve Moyer Avila, Alex C DET 46s
R5 P8 SteveGardner Choo, Shin-Soo OF CLE 32s
R5 P9 JohnHalpin Cabrera, Asdrubal SS CLE 36s
R5 P10 Peter Kreutzer Mauer, Joe C MIN 11s
R5 P11 DVR Price, David SP TB 29s
R5 P12 Erick Karabell Montero, Miguel C ARI 24s
R5 P13 Jeff Erickson - RotoWire Heyward, Jason OF ATL 12s
R5 P14 Tim Heaney Greinke, Zack SP MIL 14s
R5 P15 Lawr Michaels Haren, Dan SP ANA 11s

Round 6:
R6 P1 Lawr Michaels Cain, Matt SP SF 3s
R6 P2 Tim Heaney Upton, B.J. OF TB 23s
R6 P3 Jeff Erickson - RotoWire Gardner, Brett OF NYY 13s
R6 P4 Erick Karabell Berkman, Lance OF, 1B STL 37s
R6 P5 DVR Kimbrel, Craig RP ATL 29s
R6 P6 Peter Kreutzer Kendrick, Howie 2B, LF ANA 9s
R6 P7 JohnHalpin Hardy, J.J. SS BAL 1m 5s
R6 P8 SteveGardner Morse, Mike 1B, LF WAS 58s
R6 P9 Steve Moyer Lowrie, Jed SS, 3B HOU 24s
R6 P10 Jock Thompson Jones, Adam OF BAL 7s
R6 P11 Todd Zola Lester, Jon SP BOS 18s
R6 P12 Greg Ambrosius Gallardo, Yovani SP MIL 23s
R6 P13 Chris Liss Suzuki, Ichiro OF SEA 25s
R6 P14 Ray Flowers Ackley, Dustin 2B SEA 3s
R6 P15 ScottPianowski Strasburg, Stephen SP WAS 18s