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pre-rankings
Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 6:14 pm
by bjoak
I am trying to do the pre-rankings and I am finding it near impossible. Anyone have tips? There is no way to search. I can't even copy them into excel to search for players. If I want to find, say, Alex Presley I have to go through 500 players to find him. Also, is there any way to test my system before the draft? Is there a search function in the draft room at least? Please help.
Re: pre-rankings
Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:34 pm
by CaptainCrunch
If you use Firefox, go to your draft rankings page and hit CTRL U (might be the same in IE etc., I dunno). This brings up the page source. Then, when you are in the window with the html code, use CTRL F and search for the player. So when you search for Presley, you'll see this line:
<option value="8823;10">239 Alex Presley (LF, Pit)</option>
The 239 is his current ranking and you can go back to your draft rankings page and find him. The only problem with this is that the rankings change, so you need to save your list every 20-25 players, close the html source, and reopen it (with what are now new rankings).
Yup, it's a lot of work, but it's faster than hunt and peck. There's at least one better way, but fantasy providers don't seem to be interested in providing it ... yet. A search function like they have at MDC would be nice too.
One good thing is that you only have to do it once as you can save your list to your other teams.
Re: pre-rankings
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:43 am
by Outlaw
bjoak wrote:I am trying to do the pre-rankings and I am finding it near impossible. Anyone have tips? There is no way to search. I can't even copy them into excel to search for players. If I want to find, say, Alex Presley I have to go through 500 players to find him. Also, is there any way to test my system before the draft? Is there a search function in the draft room at least? Please help.
I know on any web page that you are in using internet explorer, if you go to the top, edit and click find on this page it will bring up a search box. for instance on the ADP page, you would type presely and it would go where he is or that word is on the web page. You can also copy and paste the ADP rankings into excel and then format the excel columns as you wish and use the same type of search in excel.
if you are in the draft room and setup up your rankings and qued players you can use the html version of draft room, do select all and then copy and paste into excel or notepad. Notepad seems to work better for formatting. once you get the hang of whatever works for you, it becomes fairly easy and repeatable.
The best thing would be for NFBC to set up ADP, Draft room ques, rankings for exporting to a program like excel. maybe in the future that will happen.
Re: pre-rankings
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:39 am
by mattjb
it would be nice to have the option to make the current NFBC ADP your draft rankings and then move people up or down from that point.
Re: pre-rankings
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:05 am
by bjoak
Outlaw wrote:bjoak wrote:I am trying to do the pre-rankings and I am finding it near impossible. Anyone have tips? There is no way to search. I can't even copy them into excel to search for players. If I want to find, say, Alex Presley I have to go through 500 players to find him. Also, is there any way to test my system before the draft? Is there a search function in the draft room at least? Please help.
I know on any web page that you are in using internet explorer, if you go to the top, edit and click find on this page it will bring up a search box. for instance on the ADP page, you would type presely and it would go where he is or that word is on the web page. You can also copy and paste the ADP rankings into excel and then format the excel columns as you wish and use the same type of search in excel.
if you are in the draft room and setup up your rankings and qued players you can use the html version of draft room, do select all and then copy and paste into excel or notepad. Notepad seems to work better for formatting. once you get the hang of whatever works for you, it becomes fairly easy and repeatable.
The best thing would be for NFBC to set up ADP, Draft room ques, rankings for exporting to a program like excel. maybe in the future that will happen.
That's just the thing. The copy (or search) function will not work on that page. It is like trying to copy from a PDF. The Crunchman's suggestion is good. I'll give that a try.
Re: pre-rankings
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:09 am
by bjoak
mattjb wrote:it would be nice to have the option to make the current NFBC ADP your draft rankings and then move people up or down from that point.
Right?! At the very least. Or a search box, or alphabeticzally, something. The current list has SP Chris Young ranked like 100th. It has Tony Sipp ranked about 200 spots ahead of Matt Thornton. There are probably 30 middle relievers in the top 300 (though not Matt Thornton who is raked about 500th).
Re: pre-rankings
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:19 am
by mattjb
bjoak wrote:mattjb wrote:it would be nice to have the option to make the current NFBC ADP your draft rankings and then move people up or down from that point.
Right?! At the very least. Or a search box, or alphabeticzally, something. The current list has SP Chris Young ranked like 100th. It has Tony Sipp ranked about 200 spots ahead of Matt Thornton. There are probably 30 middle relievers in the top 300 (though not Matt Thornton who is raked about 500th).
You can search in the draft room and sort by name/ stats etc.
Re: pre-rankings
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:25 am
by mattjb
I use excel. Cut and paste the ADP into excel and then split it up by position. Then I delete the players as they get drfated. I even color code the stats (red, orange, yellow, green) to give me a quick check to make sure i'm building a balanced roster when drafting.
Re: pre-rankings
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:41 pm
by bjoak
mattjb wrote:I use excel. Cut and paste the ADP into excel and then split it up by position. Then I delete the players as they get drfated. I even color code the stats (red, orange, yellow, green) to give me a quick check to make sure i'm building a balanced roster when drafting.
That's what I do at a live draft, but I once tried it on-line and the draft moved too quickly--all I was doing was trying to keep up. The last two satellites I did lasted 4-5 hours so it won't be a problem if this draft follows that pattern.
Re: pre-rankings
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:34 pm
by CALI CARTEL
CaptainCrunch wrote:If you use Firefox, go to your draft rankings page and hit CTRL U (might be the same in IE etc., I dunno). This brings up the page source. Then, when you are in the window with the html code, use CTRL F and search for the player. So when you search for Presley, you'll see this line:
<option value="8823;10">239 Alex Presley (LF, Pit)</option>
The 239 is his current ranking and you can go back to your draft rankings page and find him. The only problem with this is that the rankings change, so you need to save your list every 20-25 players, close the html source, and reopen it (with what are now new rankings).
Yup, it's a lot of work, but it's faster than hunt and peck. There's at least one better way, but fantasy providers don't seem to be interested in providing it ... yet. A search function like they have at MDC would be nice too.
One good thing is that you only have to do it once as you can save your list to your other teams.
I took this a step further, I took the source code, pasted it into Excel, ran a few "Text to Columns" adjustments and viola, I had my draft rankings in Excel.
Re: pre-rankings
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 5:58 am
by CaptainCrunch
That's nice ... but the issue here is not the simple task of extracting data and ordering it in excel ... it's that reordering the default list is a lot of work.
I want the same list visible in the draft room as I have on my spreadsheet (and I'm sure there are many others who want their draft room list the same as the list they have in rotolab, or whatever they use) ... which is why I go to the trouble of reordering 450+ players ... and while I'm grateful that I have to do that just once, that task takes hours, when it could be seconds.
Then there's the issue of player names and IDs ... :sigh: ... :-รพ
Re: pre-rankings
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:36 am
by Outlaw
I agree the draft list re-ordering is one big pain. it is very slow and your wrist and fingers take beating clicking each player you want to move up or down. moving pettite or cespedes takes forever. the defualt draft list should use the ADP rankings and then the remaining 700 or or so follow that. the remaing 700 or so bascially would neve rget drafted as current ADP accounts for each and every player drafted, even if once.