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Kelly Johnson Top 5 2B?

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:09 am
by Gekko
I'll call it now. Kelly Johnson will be one of the biggest value selections on draft day. Hitting 2nd, is 25hr, 20sb, 90-100 runs, a possibility? And you can currently get this guy in a double digit round? Amazing!

From Rotoworld...
Kelly Johnson is slated to bat second in the Blue Jays' lineup this season.
Johnson batted sixth in 16 out of 32 starts after being acquired by the Blue Jays last August, but his fantasy value would get a nice little boost hitting in front of slugger Jose Bautista. The 30-year-old batted just .222/.304/.413 last season, but he still managed to collect 21 homers, 58 RBI and 16 stolen bases.

Re: Kelly Johnson Top 5 2B?

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:14 am
by PGromek
I like how this guy is flying under the radar right now

Re: Kelly Johnson Top 5 2B?

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:16 am
by DOUGHBOYS
Bam!
There it is!
Thanks Mark, I'd thought you lost your edge :)

Good karma with Johnson...Plays 2nd, hits 2nd, and our own KJ finished 2nd in the overall last year.

Re: Kelly Johnson Top 5 2B?

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:22 am
by headhunters
ya- wow, out of retirement. i think this is a better plan- wait till right before the drafts. sort of a fantasy blitzkrieg if you will. you go mark.

Re: Kelly Johnson Top 5 2B?

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:48 am
by BK METS
Kelly Johnson, like Aaron Hill, is a model of inconsistancy. Will he bat .220 or .280? He seemed to hit a lot of homers in Arizona, but who knows what you are gonna get. Definitely upside is 8th round, but much higher would be a very risky play. Consistancy has put Howie Kendrick in the top 5 2B, even though he doesn't do anything all that great except 15 HR's 15 SBs and .280-.300 batting average every year. Its all about risk-reward and how much risk are you willing to take. I like the KJ risk, thus I have drafted him in 4 leagues. I have stayed away from Aaron Hill, since I truly believe he will go down in history as a the ultimate 1 year wonder... though looking closer at Aaron's stats, I didn't have him last year and just noticed he had 21 SB's. Where the heck did that come from? If Aaron can do 20-20, then he is being drafted too low as well.

Re: Kelly Johnson Top 5 2B?

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:28 am
by CALI CARTEL
BK METS wrote:Kelly Johnson, like Aaron Hill, is a model of inconsistancy.
Took both last night in an OC draft.

Re: Kelly Johnson Top 5 2B?

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:18 pm
by Roy's Outlaws
Ok Mark so is Kelly Johnson this year Will Venable from last year? How did that work out? See you at the Auction in NYC , so i can bid you up on Kelly Johnson :D :D :D

Re: Kelly Johnson Top 5 2B?

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:49 pm
by hot and cold
don't like him at all . way to many games against the top leftys from tampa / yankees / boston . bad pick .whats he hit about .220 at most vs leftys .

Re: Kelly Johnson Top 5 2B?

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:54 pm
by hot and cold
by the way only 152 ab against leftys . 5 hr 17 rbi .224 ba . i don't care if he is there in rd 30 . not any good .

Re: Kelly Johnson Top 5 2B?

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:59 pm
by Likewhat17
hot and cold wrote:by the way only 152 ab against leftys . 5 hr 17 rbi .224 ba . i don't care if he is there in rd 30 . not any good .
You do realize that that .224 BA vs. LHP was better than he hit against RHP?

And that for his career he has a .287 AVG vs. LHP compared to .249 vs. RHP??

You should spend more time doing research and less trolling the message boards.

Re: Kelly Johnson Top 5 2B?

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:26 pm
by hot and cold
Likewhat17 wrote:
hot and cold wrote:by the way only 152 ab against leftys . 5 hr 17 rbi .224 ba . i don't care if he is there in rd 30 . not any good .
You do realize that that .224 BA vs. LHP was better than he hit against RHP?

And that for his career he has a .287 AVG vs. LHP compared to .249 vs. RHP??

You should spend more time doing research and less trolling the message boards.
wow a smart guy in the house . he hit .221 vs rp / .224 vs left . but he had 393ab vs 152ab vs left . this is because is but was always on the bench vs leftys . and they played r roberts at 2nd base . anything else i can bring u up to speed with smart guy . :lol:

Re: Kelly Johnson Top 5 2B?

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:31 pm
by hot and cold
you can't ever go on lifetime stats . if you did chipper would still be great . he (WAS ) a ok hitter years ago but this is 2012 not say 3 or 4 years ago .

Re: Kelly Johnson Top 5 2B?

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:34 pm
by Cocktails and Dreams
Likewhat17 1 Hotandcold 0

Re: Kelly Johnson Top 5 2B?

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:02 pm
by CALI CARTEL
Cocktails and Dreams wrote:Likewhat17 1 Hotandcold 0
I think there might've been a runner on base already, I'm going 2-0

Re: Kelly Johnson Top 5 2B?

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:26 pm
by Ando
Please do not discourage Mark, aka "hot and cold", from trolling the boards.

I . find . his . commentary . rather . amusing .

....and don't get into a statistical pissing match with Shovein. You got no chance! :mrgreen:

Re: Kelly Johnson Top 5 2B?

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:28 pm
by headhunters
not to pile on- but we only need to go back 1 year to see that .310 against lefties- not very far. also- all hitters get less ab's against lefties because , i don't know, there seem to be way more righty pitchers.

Re: Kelly Johnson Top 5 2B?

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:05 pm
by Gekko
i think most people will agree there is a good chance KJ will have more hr and sb than let's say kendrick. batting avg has to favor kendrick. runs and rbis are a little closer.

in KJ's six seasons he scored more than 85 runs 3 times. in Kendrick's six seasons only 1.
in KJ's six seasons he had more than 65 rbis 3 times. in kendrick's six seasons only 1.

i'm not saying kendrick shouldn't be taken later, just asking why KJ is going SEVEN rounds later than kendrick.

Re: Kelly Johnson Top 5 2B?

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:09 pm
by Lunatic
Gekko wrote:I'll call it now. Kelly Johnson will be one of the biggest value selections on draft day. Hitting 2nd, is 25hr, 20sb, 90-100 runs, a possibility? And you can currently get this guy in a double digit round? Amazing!

From Rotoworld...
Kelly Johnson is slated to bat second in the Blue Jays' lineup this season.
Johnson batted sixth in 16 out of 32 starts after being acquired by the Blue Jays last August, but his fantasy value would get a nice little boost hitting in front of slugger Jose Bautista. The 30-year-old batted just .222/.304/.413 last season, but he still managed to collect 21 homers, 58 RBI and 16 stolen bases.

Same rhetoric different year :shock:

Re: Kelly Johnson Top 5 2B?

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:36 pm
by Money
Lunatic wrote:
Gekko wrote:I'll call it now. Kelly Johnson will be one of the biggest value selections on draft day. Hitting 2nd, is 25hr, 20sb, 90-100 runs, a possibility? And you can currently get this guy in a double digit round? Amazing!

From Rotoworld...
Kelly Johnson is slated to bat second in the Blue Jays' lineup this season.
Johnson batted sixth in 16 out of 32 starts after being acquired by the Blue Jays last August, but his fantasy value would get a nice little boost hitting in front of slugger Jose Bautista. The 30-year-old batted just .222/.304/.413 last season, but he still managed to collect 21 homers, 58 RBI and 16 stolen bases.

Same rhetoric different year :shock:
This is a kinder/gentler Gekko fellow. He has started late this year. I have to admit, I like hearing the spin.

Re: Kelly Johnson Top 5 2B?

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:20 pm
by G@mblor
All I hear is white noise. *Puts fingers in ears* LaLaLaLaLaLaLa

Re: Kelly Johnson Top 5 2B?

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 6:27 am
by Edwards Kings
Kelly Johnson is what he is. A plus MI for counting stats who will drive you NUTS when he goes 1-fer-the world, so you sit him and he begins lighting it up again. If you draft/buy him, you should get a free year-long supply of aluminum hydroxide/ magnesium hydroxide (d.b.a. Maalox)!

Re: Kelly Johnson Top 5 2B?

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:59 am
by TOXIC ASSETS
Slow draft 47 --- I took Johnson and Hill in back to back rounds. So I am expecting great things from both!

Re: Kelly Johnson Top 5 2B?

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:03 pm
by bjoak
I am actually dumber now than I was when I started reading this thread.

Re: Kelly Johnson Top 5 2B?

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 2:13 pm
by Gekko
Kelly Johnson went 3-for-4 with a double and an RBI against the Phillies on Thursday.

Re: Kelly Johnson Top 5 2B?

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 2:50 pm
by Hells Satans
One word - ALTUVE

All in. All the way in. Lock it up.