Gekko wrote:we all have to figure the ramos owners will be DESPERATE given the news. i wonder how many ramos owners are gonna get stung with missing out on Flores because they think they can get him for sub triple digits?

like all your brethren on Wall Street Gordon, You just love risking other peoples money...LOL Jamie Dimon and his 2 Billion dollar loss this week has nothing on you....
But to be fair and put it in context, see the below
If the bankers make huge bets and they lose, then the federal government uses taxpayer money to clean up the mess.
Under those kind of conditions, why not bet the farm?
Sadly, most Americans do not even know what derivatives are.
Most Americans have no idea that we are rapidly approaching a horrific derivatives crisis that is going to make 2008 look like a Sunday picnic.
According to the Comptroller of the Currency, the "too big to fail" banks have exposure to derivatives that is absolutely mind blowing. Just check out the following numbers from an official U.S. government report.
JPMorgan Chase - $70.1 Trillion
Citibank - $52.1 Trillion
Bank of America - $50.1 Trillion
Goldman Sachs - $44.2 Trillion
So a 2 billion dollar loss for JP Morgan is nothing compared to their total exposure of over 70 trillion dollars.
Overall, the 9 largest U.S. banks have a total of more than 200 trillion dollars of exposure to derivatives. That is approximately 3 times the size of the entire global economy.
It is hard for the average person on the street to begin to comprehend how immense this derivatives bubble is.
So let's not make too much out of this 2 billion dollar loss by JP Morgan.
This is just chicken feed.