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Brett Lawrie

Post by PGromek » Tue May 15, 2012 8:08 pm

he might be going away for a while after tonight's incident

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Re: Brett Lawrie

Post by Outlaw » Tue May 15, 2012 8:38 pm

I just read recently an article about his "make-up" being suspect. I hope someone has a nice talk with him.

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Re: Brett Lawrie

Post by Money Men » Wed May 16, 2012 8:20 am

He definitely earned himself a suspension.

The 3-1 pitch was off the plate, and the 3-2 was worse. I would hope the ump just "missed" them both, but I doubt it. The called third strike looked like a clear case of don't show up the umpire bravado.

The fan who hit the ump with his drink had better control than Rodney in the 9th.

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Re: Brett Lawrie

Post by ChiScottieBaseball » Wed May 16, 2012 11:06 am

Lawrie was wrong, yes the umpire's call looked to be wrong, but you show up the umpire and that's what you get. If I were MLB, at least 10 games for Lawrie, anything less would be not enough...

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Re: Brett Lawrie

Post by Ryan C » Wed May 16, 2012 11:49 am

Yeah. Y Molina got 5 games last year for his "spitting" and "bumping" incident. I could see that as the precedent here, but I do think 10 is a possibility due to the helmet being thrown.
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Re: Brett Lawrie

Post by TParsons » Wed May 16, 2012 12:09 pm

Springfield Cardinals Manager tossed his helmet and incidentally hit an ump in a very similar situation last Friday. He got three games. I would guess Lawrie's suspension will be similar.

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Re: Brett Lawrie

Post by KJ Duke » Wed May 16, 2012 12:20 pm

C'mon, it was on a bounce. One-to-three games is plenty.
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Re: Brett Lawrie

Post by KJ Duke » Wed May 16, 2012 12:21 pm

Outlaw wrote:I just read recently an article about his "make-up" being suspect. I hope someone has a nice talk with him.
The umpire?

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Re: Brett Lawrie

Post by The Mighty Men » Wed May 16, 2012 12:28 pm

KJ Duke wrote:C'mon, it was on a bounce. One-to-three games is plenty.
Agreed. 10 games is way too much. He didn't throw the helmet at the ump. The bounce was random.
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Re: Brett Lawrie

Post by gpchurchill » Wed May 16, 2012 1:05 pm

couldn't he just write in the dirt around home plate " I won't show up the ump. ", 50 times?

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Re: Brett Lawrie

Post by headhunters » Wed May 16, 2012 1:09 pm

if he keeps trotting to 1st before the pitch is called- he will be in for a lot more of this.

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Re: Brett Lawrie

Post by 751542 » Wed May 16, 2012 1:23 pm

he will get a 15 :o game sitdown
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Re: Brett Lawrie

Post by Oaktown » Wed May 16, 2012 1:30 pm

The Mighty Men wrote:
KJ Duke wrote:C'mon, it was on a bounce. One-to-three games is plenty.
Agreed. 10 games is way too much. He didn't throw the helmet at the ump. The bounce was random.
Maybe not at ump, but certainly was towards him. He is getting 7-10 games.

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Re: Brett Lawrie

Post by COZ » Wed May 16, 2012 2:39 pm

headhunters wrote:if he keeps trotting to 1st before the pitch is called- he will be in for a lot more of this.
Totally agree. The little tatt'ed up hothead was running 10 feet up the line before the umpire had a chance to even make the call. You're a rooke, show some respect. If he stays in the box until the umpire has a chance to make the call, he probably draws the walk. He had absolutely no intention of trying to hit the ball, he looked the worst hitter on a Little League team trying to coax a walk by running up the line. Hate when guys do that, it's disrespectful to the umpire, as if the umpire's call is meaningless. He got what he deserved, to be rung up & taught a lesson. I am a Lawrie owner, but I do not let what's best for my fantasy team affect what I think is best for baseball. As a former umpire, I hope the the little punk gets 7-10 games minimum!
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Re: Brett Lawrie

Post by Money » Wed May 16, 2012 3:03 pm

I predict 4 games :D
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Re: Brett Lawrie

Post by Cocktails and Dreams » Wed May 16, 2012 3:37 pm

COZ wrote:
headhunters wrote:if he keeps trotting to 1st before the pitch is called- he will be in for a lot more of this.
Totally agree. The little tatt'ed up hothead was running 10 feet up the line before the umpire had a chance to even make the call. You're a rooke, show some respect. If he stays in the box until the umpire has a chance to make the call, he probably draws the walk. He had absolutely no intention of trying to hit the ball, he looked the worst hitter on a Little League team trying to coax a walk by running up the line. Hate when guys do that, it's disrespectful to the umpire, as if the umpire's call is meaningless. He got what he deserved, to be rung up & taught a lesson. I am a Lawrie owner, but I do not let what's best for my fantasy team affect what I think is best for baseball. As a former umpire, I hope the the little punk gets 7-10 games minimum!

If it was not a strike then he did not get what he deserved at all, which is a walk. Very unprofessional of an umpire to make a horrible call to "teach a lesson" as you put it.

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Re: Brett Lawrie

Post by Outlaw » Wed May 16, 2012 3:57 pm

He got 4 games, slap on the wrist. Bigger issue is whether he learned his lesson, because he sure looked like an out of control, immature, unprofessional punk.

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Re: Brett Lawrie

Post by CALI CARTEL » Wed May 16, 2012 3:59 pm

Outlaw wrote:He got 4 games, slap on the wrist. Bigger issue is whether he learned his lesson, because he sure looked like an out of control, immature, unprofessional punk.
If that pitch had actually been in the vicinity of the plate, and he had still gone that apeshit, he would've gotten 10.

This was MLB's way of apologizing for two AWFUL strike calls.

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Re: Brett Lawrie

Post by COZ » Wed May 16, 2012 6:10 pm

Well now Lawrie has 4 days off to contemplate his actions. instead of reflecting on his misdeeds, he'll probably get a neck tattoo like Ryan Roberts. Punk.
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Re: Brett Lawrie

Post by Outlaw » Wed May 16, 2012 6:45 pm

Just watched him get called out on Stirke 3, and that kid has got some pent up anger stuff going on. The pitch looked a little outside, but way too close to take. He had better fix his attitude and visual demeanor, or there will be a lot of Umpire ringing him up and squeezing him.

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Re: Brett Lawrie

Post by Ando » Wed May 16, 2012 7:17 pm

The Strike 2 call was much worse than Strike 3 - and that's saying something because 3 was awful!
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Re: Brett Lawrie

Post by Winston's Empire » Wed May 16, 2012 10:23 pm

I have Lawrie in 2 leagues and just saw the video for the 1st time. WOW.
Rookie Move and it kinda reminded me of Allen Iverson saying," We talking about Practice... Practice."
This kid is talented, but the ash heap of life is filled with talented people who simply don't get it and end up telling the same story on a bar stool for 50 years about how somebody (a ump in this case) screwed them! Keep it up Brett and they will.
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Re: Brett Lawrie

Post by ChiScottieBaseball » Thu May 17, 2012 6:56 am

Did he even apologize yet? If he didn't that makes him an even bigger punk. 4 games is not enough. He will appeal it down to 2. They should have given him 10-12 which really would have been 6 or 7...

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Re: Brett Lawrie

Post by Outlaw » Thu May 17, 2012 7:28 am

[quote="ChiScottieBaseball"]Did he even apologize yet? If he didn't that makes him an even bigger punk. 4 games is not enough. He will appeal it down to 2. They should have given him 10-12 which really would have been 6 or 7...[/quote

No Apology, in fact the clip I saw yesterday where he was talking about it, he was more arrogant and defiant than humble and apologetic.

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Re: Brett Lawrie

Post by Cocktails and Dreams » Thu May 17, 2012 11:30 am

Was clearly way outside. I don't see why heading to first is that big a deal I guess. If it was even remotely close, I get it. Assuming you are not showing up an umpire on a ball about a foot outside should be a safe one. I am clearly in the minority.

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