Slow Draft Idea
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Slow Draft Idea
One of the beauties of the slow draft is that it obviates the need to spend your entire Sunday evening trolling for pick ups. One of the main drawbacks is having double digit DL players, players who retire, etc.
A possible idea for next year would be to add one or maybe two FAAB periods during the season. I like the idea of a FAAB period every two months (June 1st and August 1st). The dates would be published well ahead of time, so each owner would have 2 months to figure out what they want to do.
I would *love* this feature this year, as at least three of my Slow Draft teams have 10+ DL players each.
Thoughts?
A possible idea for next year would be to add one or maybe two FAAB periods during the season. I like the idea of a FAAB period every two months (June 1st and August 1st). The dates would be published well ahead of time, so each owner would have 2 months to figure out what they want to do.
I would *love* this feature this year, as at least three of my Slow Draft teams have 10+ DL players each.
Thoughts?
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Re: Slow Draft Idea
Interesting but it would change the dynamics of the game.
We could design our own type of slow draft since, we already have the 50 round Fast, Slow draft. How about a Slow draft with half the picks fast and half slow with a couple of free agent pickups during the year?
We could design our own type of slow draft since, we already have the 50 round Fast, Slow draft. How about a Slow draft with half the picks fast and half slow with a couple of free agent pickups during the year?
Re: Slow Draft Idea
I already posted this once or twice, but the All-Star break cries out for a supplemental draft for slow teams....
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I am more than willing to trade the time FAAB takes on Sunday's for the risk I assume at having 14 players on the DL on a Slow Draft team. In Dough's Premier SD League, my high is 12 for the year.
Although I see where you're coming from in regards to the frustration angle of DL'd players in Slow's, you do realize that any major change like that would remove that league from the Slow Draft overall championship don't you? That big carrott in the sky that I'll never bite out of is a deal breaker for me. I'd rather just be frustrated by looking at all my red DL boxes.
It gets to the point of being kinda funny because if I didn't laugh about it, I'd probably cry!
Although I see where you're coming from in regards to the frustration angle of DL'd players in Slow's, you do realize that any major change like that would remove that league from the Slow Draft overall championship don't you? That big carrott in the sky that I'll never bite out of is a deal breaker for me. I'd rather just be frustrated by looking at all my red DL boxes.
It gets to the point of being kinda funny because if I didn't laugh about it, I'd probably cry!
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Re: Slow Draft Idea
Matt, a supplemental draft during the All-Star break would be available for all leagues.
The Overall would remain the same, the only difference being the addition of players during the All-Star break.
This is just a thought for future years. The rules for this year are already in stone.
The Overall would remain the same, the only difference being the addition of players during the All-Star break.
This is just a thought for future years. The rules for this year are already in stone.
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Re: Slow Draft Idea
DOUGHBOYS wrote:Matt, a supplemental draft during the All-Star break would be available for all leagues.
The Overall would remain the same, the only difference being the addition of players during the All-Star break.
This is just a thought for future years. The rules for this year are already in stone.
I love this idea and we'd have 3 months to put in these FAAB moves which would run during the all star break.
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I was thinking of a supplemental five round draft, but I like FAAB better.
Great thought!
There'd be less headaches logistically since some teams will have lost interest and won't put much effort into a re-draft. Plus faab would not limit us to the rounds of a supplemental draft.
Perfect deadline would be the hour the All Star game starts.
Great thought!
There'd be less headaches logistically since some teams will have lost interest and won't put much effort into a re-draft. Plus faab would not limit us to the rounds of a supplemental draft.
Perfect deadline would be the hour the All Star game starts.
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Re: Slow Draft Idea
I’d be against a one time in-season FAAB period. These leagues are ‘draft and hold’.
Injuries are unfortunate, but it happens; that’s one of the reasons that we are drafting 50 players. We all draft X-amount of C/MI/OF/P’s, so that we have backups to fill out roster spots. Sometimes those backups work out, sometimes they don’t, that’s an integral part of the draft and hold game.
The free agents available aren’t exactly difference makers anyway, at least not in my league. According to NFBC’s ranking, the best hitter available with a rank of 130 is Michael Saunders. I don’t want to have to bid $1000 of FAAB to get Michael Saunders.
Now maybe each team can make some marginal gains in the standings (which could be enough to win a championship), but these original “un-draftable” players are not going to move a second division team into a money position.
Injuries are unfortunate, but it happens; that’s one of the reasons that we are drafting 50 players. We all draft X-amount of C/MI/OF/P’s, so that we have backups to fill out roster spots. Sometimes those backups work out, sometimes they don’t, that’s an integral part of the draft and hold game.
The free agents available aren’t exactly difference makers anyway, at least not in my league. According to NFBC’s ranking, the best hitter available with a rank of 130 is Michael Saunders. I don’t want to have to bid $1000 of FAAB to get Michael Saunders.
Now maybe each team can make some marginal gains in the standings (which could be enough to win a championship), but these original “un-draftable” players are not going to move a second division team into a money position.
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Re: Slow Draft Idea
Not passing judgment on the idea one way or the other (yet)
Something I would be curious to learn is how many players are actually available in these leagues.
What we need is someone with a little bit of computer skills, access to several slow drafts and may have an hour or two to spare to do a little digging. Hmmm.....
Something I would be curious to learn is how many players are actually available in these leagues.
What we need is someone with a little bit of computer skills, access to several slow drafts and may have an hour or two to spare to do a little digging. Hmmm.....
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Re: Slow Draft Idea
I thought about this being the possibility after I responded, Dan. Thanks for clarifying.DOUGHBOYS wrote:Matt, a supplemental draft during the All-Star break would be available for all leagues.
The Overall would remain the same, the only difference being the addition of players during the All-Star break.
This is just a thought for future years. The rules for this year are already in stone.
It appears I'm in the minority of the responses so far. I enjoy the 'You made you bed, now sleep in it' aspect of the 'Draft and Hold' format. I'm one who anguishes on the Plouffe/Ludwick/Campana pick 1 of 3 scenarios that rise before me twice a week in addition to all the pitching matchup options in these types of leagues. With that being said, I spend enough time on these as is coupled with FAAB in a number of other leagues. I'm not looking to add more (time consuming requirements).
Dan, to followup on one your threads on your Forum....how do you think a Jesse Jastremski would feel about navigating through 23 midseason FAAB's all at once? He's obviously an outliner in terms of the number of leagues, but many slow drafters are in multiple slow draft leagues. Just a thought there. Just my opinion on this. Love the format with this and would change my ways in regards to it if the masses get it changed. I just wouldn't "vote" for it.
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Re: Slow Draft Idea
No problem Russ and Matt. They're just ideas to think about.
We've gone from 45 to 50 players. The pool is so dry by the end of the 50th round, that going beyond is fruitless.
The only way to buoy some teams would be an addition during the season.
Ideas are meant to be kicked around and beaten up before being accepted or discarded.
All part of the process.
You're right, Matt! Mr Jastremski would be a busy guy!
But, at the same time, his teams could really use the infusion.
We've gone from 45 to 50 players. The pool is so dry by the end of the 50th round, that going beyond is fruitless.
The only way to buoy some teams would be an addition during the season.
Ideas are meant to be kicked around and beaten up before being accepted or discarded.
All part of the process.
You're right, Matt! Mr Jastremski would be a busy guy!
But, at the same time, his teams could really use the infusion.
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Re: Slow Draft Idea
In Slow Draft 3 these players would be available: This was based on a 5 minute scan.
*Felix Doubrant
*Drew Smyly
*Wei-Yen Chen
*Drew Hutchinson
*Andy Petitte
*James Russell
*Ryan Cook
*Michael Saunders
*Jarrod Dyson
*Will Middlebrooks
*Kirk Nieuwenheis
*Brian Dozier
*Gregor Blanco
*Daniel Nava
Plenty of talent to fill in roster spots for many of our starting lineups. Middlebrooks would probably be the only Max player with a 1000 bid.
*Felix Doubrant
*Drew Smyly
*Wei-Yen Chen
*Drew Hutchinson
*Andy Petitte
*James Russell
*Ryan Cook
*Michael Saunders
*Jarrod Dyson
*Will Middlebrooks
*Kirk Nieuwenheis
*Brian Dozier
*Gregor Blanco
*Daniel Nava
Plenty of talent to fill in roster spots for many of our starting lineups. Middlebrooks would probably be the only Max player with a 1000 bid.
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in slow draft 2 I have 16 players on the dl and 6 demoted or in the minors.But I wouldnt change a thing ,I love the fact that everybody is in the same boat.Well for the most part depending on when you drafted .To be able to do any type of pickups would ruin the entire concept of it for me.
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Re: Slow Draft Idea
I will throw out my objective point of view since I am not in any slow draft leagues.
My theory is this if you have an All-Star break FAAB session:
The teams that are being beat up with injuries will need to fill many holes, thus spread their bidding dollars across many. They are also probably the teams struggling to compete by the all-star break.
The teams doing well in the standings will/would be smart to throw 1000 or 990+ on 1 player to really help them. And keep a 1 for some September call up flyers.
Since the draft pool will be so limited, the teams hammered with injuries won't end up getting enough fill-ins because the top teams will do the all-in theory because they just need to add 1 player for depth.
So this would really seem to actually help the guys at the top who just want 1 player to add depth or fill in 1 spot. So the gap between the haves and have-nots will most likely just widen even more.
You fix one of your issues with a midseason FAAB, and then the next request will morph into wanting a monthly FAAB to try to fulfill your teams lack of depth or lack of luck.
My theory is this if you have an All-Star break FAAB session:
The teams that are being beat up with injuries will need to fill many holes, thus spread their bidding dollars across many. They are also probably the teams struggling to compete by the all-star break.
The teams doing well in the standings will/would be smart to throw 1000 or 990+ on 1 player to really help them. And keep a 1 for some September call up flyers.
Since the draft pool will be so limited, the teams hammered with injuries won't end up getting enough fill-ins because the top teams will do the all-in theory because they just need to add 1 player for depth.
So this would really seem to actually help the guys at the top who just want 1 player to add depth or fill in 1 spot. So the gap between the haves and have-nots will most likely just widen even more.
You fix one of your issues with a midseason FAAB, and then the next request will morph into wanting a monthly FAAB to try to fulfill your teams lack of depth or lack of luck.
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A good idea gets better.DOUGHBOYS wrote:I was thinking of a supplemental five round draft, but I like FAAB better.
Great thought!
There'd be less headaches logistically since some teams will have lost interest and won't put much effort into a re-draft. Plus faab would not limit us to the rounds of a supplemental draft.
Perfect deadline would be the hour the All Star game starts.
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Re: Slow Draft Idea
Actually, I think you would see a lot of $1000 bids with the teams doing worse getting the best players available due to the worst-record tie-breaker. Probably have to make this a completely random selection with no worse-record tie-breaker to avoid teams purposely tanking the week(s) before the All Star break to position themselves better for the lone FAAB draft ala the NBA a few years ago.Scared $ Dont Make $ wrote:I will throw out my objective point of view since I am not in any slow draft leagues.
My theory is this if you have an All-Star break FAAB session:
The teams that are being beat up with injuries will need to fill many holes, thus spread their bidding dollars across many. They are also probably the teams struggling to compete by the all-star break.
The teams doing well in the standings will/would be smart to throw 1000 or 990+ on 1 player to really help them. And keep a 1 for some September call up flyers.
Since the draft pool will be so limited, the teams hammered with injuries won't end up getting enough fill-ins because the top teams will do the all-in theory because they just need to add 1 player for depth.
So this would really seem to actually help the guys at the top who just want 1 player to add depth or fill in 1 spot. So the gap between the haves and have-nots will most likely just widen even more.
You fix one of your issues with a midseason FAAB, and then the next request will morph into wanting a monthly FAAB to try to fulfill your teams lack of depth or lack of luck.
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Re: Slow Draft Idea
Leave it the way it is.............not necessary to explain why!!!!!
Re: Slow Draft Idea
dittoDak wrote:Leave it the way it is.............not necessary to explain why!!!!!
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Re: Slow Draft Idea
Very bad idea. I only do the slow drafts because so far I haven't been crazy enough to drop $1,400 on a main event team. The slow drafts are great because you don't have to go searching the waiver wires every week. Pick your 50 players, and you're done. My 2 slow draft teams have been hit hard by retirements and injuries, but that's ok. I should have made better picks. This idea is another example of..... 'If it's not broken, don't fix it!!!"
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Re: Slow Draft Idea
I totally agree no changes needed. Live with what you draft.
I am in 2 slow drafts and I loved that I had to place my bets and live with them, even though an early pick was Soria. I took Rendon with my last pick in one league, you never know. Well now I do lol
I will definitely be back if this keeps to a draft and lineup league, I don't have time for another FAAB league. Especially with lack of tools on this website(I am use to CBS).
I am in 2 slow drafts and I loved that I had to place my bets and live with them, even though an early pick was Soria. I took Rendon with my last pick in one league, you never know. Well now I do lol
I will definitely be back if this keeps to a draft and lineup league, I don't have time for another FAAB league. Especially with lack of tools on this website(I am use to CBS).
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Re: Slow Draft Idea
I vote for no changes.
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as much as wish there was a way to replace injured players ( I am avg 9 per team so far) I would vote for no changes also.
There is one other game that might be interesting, a slow draft 30 player roster with FAAB.
There is one other game that might be interesting, a slow draft 30 player roster with FAAB.
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Re: Slow Draft Idea
I think 12-team slow drafts would be a great idea. Would allow the back end of rosters to be filled with better players.
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I think the 12 team slow drafts would be a nice addition. You could have two seperate championship pools.low talkers wrote:I think 12-team slow drafts would be a great idea. Would allow the back end of rosters to be filled with better players.
Another change I'd like to see is the setting of lineups. In the NFFC slow draft competition you never even have to set a lineup, the computer does it for you. I realize the scoring with the ratio's isn't cut and dried vs the counting stats but a system could be easily devised.
I must admit I'd pay for a couple of slow drafts simply for the prep work for the main events. They're pretty darn good the way they are.
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