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Of course Bud Selig couldn't get it right.
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 4:49 pm
by Money
http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/8653126/mi[url][/url]ami-marlins-salary-dump-trade-toronto-blue-jays-finalized
Probably the worst commissioner in the history of baseball. This was a no brainer, but this commissioner has yet to ever rule in the best interests of the game.
Re: Of course Bud Selig couldn't get it right.
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:09 pm
by Likewhat17
To be fair, while the trade is a public relations nightmare and an awful atrocity to the fans of the Marlins, from both a management perspective and from the baseball operations side of things, the trade makes sense for both parties.
The Marlins will be much better able to compete in 4-5 years now, than they would have been with the albatrosses of the Reyes and Buehrle backloaded contracts.
Re: Of course Bud Selig couldn't get it right.
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:07 pm
by Captain Hook
Sorry but I think you are wrong Money
And the ONLY reason that people are really upset with the trade = Loria and the PR fiasco of the folks in Miami paying for the new stadium and immediately having to deal with a rebuilding franchise.
On the baseball side there is nothing wrong with the trade - it will (in time) benefit both sides - Toronto now and Miami later
Re: Of course Bud Selig couldn't get it right.
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:50 pm
by DOUGHBOYS
Too simplistic, Perry!
While I do agree that this trade is not as one sided as a lot of the press is making it out to be, this doesn't help Miami in the future from a non-prospect point of view.
Players are not given a no-trade clause in Miami. They also know that Loria will trade them to Siberia at the drop of a bat.
Agents will avoid calling the Marlins.
This limits Miami's signings to players like Juan Pierre and other aging players who are playing out the string.
Also, the Marlins had a chance to join the Cubs and Red Sox in strategic dumpings and re-signings. That door still seems to be open for the Cubs and Red Sox. The Cubs and Red Sox could strike for a Josh Hamilton or BJ Upton, if that is what they feel will help them win. The Marlins goal seems to be having having the lowest payroll in the Majors.
Loria could sign players like Manny Ramirez or Johnny Damon as ploys to get fannies in the seats, but it will take a long time before a good player seriously thinks about inking a contract with the Marlins.
And that, will hurt their future.
Re: Of course Bud Selig couldn't get it right.
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:03 pm
by poopytooth
Dodgers last world series 1988, since then marlins have two world series championships...lets not forget they also rebuilt
Re: Of course Bud Selig couldn't get it right.
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:11 pm
by Greg Ambrosius
Captain Hook wrote:Sorry but I think you are wrong Money
And the ONLY reason that people are really upset with the trade = Loria and the PR fiasco of the folks in Miami paying for the new stadium and immediately having to deal with a rebuilding franchise.
On the baseball side there is nothing wrong with the trade - it will (in time) benefit both sides - Toronto now and Miami later
There isn't a single top free agent now who will ever sign a no-trade contract with the Marlins again like Buehrle and Reyes did. The fact that no players want to play there now will hurt more and longer than losing a few top veterans. This is a trade that will hurt Loria and the Marlins for a long, long time.
Re: Of course Bud Selig couldn't get it right.
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:12 pm
by Captain Hook
Greg Ambrosius wrote:Captain Hook wrote:Sorry but I think you are wrong Money
And the ONLY reason that people are really upset with the trade = Loria and the PR fiasco of the folks in Miami paying for the new stadium and immediately having to deal with a rebuilding franchise.
On the baseball side there is nothing wrong with the trade - it will (in time) benefit both sides - Toronto now and Miami later
There isn't a single top free agent now who will ever sign a no-trade contract with the Marlins again like Buehrle and Reyes did. The fact that no players want to play there now will hurt more and longer than losing a few top veterans. This is a trade that will hurt Loria and the Marlins for a long, long time.
Not as bad as those traded to Toronto - wait until they see what they have to pay in taxes!
