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Hi everyone this Marcel. The same guy that this post is written about. I thought it would be appropriate for me to reply and tell everyone what really happened in last years draft instead of letting DOUGHBOY fill everyone's minds with outright lies.

I joined my first few slow drafts last year. Greg explained me to that I had 8 hours to pick and I thought that was great since I have an extremely busy and demanding life. I had every intention of drafting as quickly as possible because I LOVE FANTASY BASEBALL AND DRAFTS . The problem was that my Doctor thought I was having heart complications. He ordered about 6 different tests all in the first week of the draft. That coupled with fact that I run a retail store and it was literally the busiest time of the year for me. On most days from mid November to X-mass I work 12 hour days with no lunch break. On top of all that MY FATHER WAS DIEING OF CANCER ! I was driving back forth from Vegas to LA every few days. So between my health, work, travel and my father it became difficult for me to draft promptly.

NOW THE TRUTH ABOUT ETIQUETTE:

My first two picks I was not able to draft for about 5 hours, but that's when slowly all the league starting viciously attacking me with negative comments. I did not feel the need or have the desire to reply to such negativity from a group of people that would not even allow me the 8 hours that I rightfully had to draft according to Greg ( Who Runs The NFBC ). My next to two picks were clocked at about 4 and 7 hours. I can still remember that day. I went to the doctor for two different heart tests ( one was nuclear and it was very long and not fun at all ) When I finally came back and explained AGAIN that I was having heart problems DOUGHBOY and his group of thugs starting calling me names. ONE OF THEM EVEN SAID: I HOPE YOU HAVE A HEART ATTACK AND DIE !!! At that point I completely removed myself to responding to these posts. I have never in my life Drafted with such rude and impatient people! From then on all they did was threaten me and call me names. All because I was not drafting fast enough ? I don't know about the rest of you but I thought a fantasy draft was supposed to be fun ? Like Greg told me " It's only a game. I will talk to them and tell them to chill out." I thought PROPER ETIQUETTE included be courteous to your fellow players. I thought as GREG CLEARLY TOLD ME that it was completely within my right to use all 8 hours. Greg told me THAT'S WHY IT IS CALLED A SLOW DRAFT. THAT'S WHY EVERYONE HAS 8 HOURS TO DRAFT. He then told me not to listen to the banter and go about my draft as best I could. After talking to Greg and few of my fellow NFBC buddies I found out that our draft only fell a few days out of the average draft time for a slow draft. WOW Did these players really have to threaten to come beat me up if I did not draft faster ? Did they really have to call me names ? Did they really have to wish I SHOULD HAVE A HEART ATTACK AND DIE ??!! Well they did and they did all that even though most all of them knew I WAS SICK AND MY FATHER DIEING ! Shame on all of them. I hope NO ONE in an NFBC DRAFT EVER has to be subjected to such poisonous filth.


Greg told me. "This is a slow draft. If you are busy and can't get to the draft quickly don't worry about it. The season doesn't start for another 3 months. Take your time and handle your business. Just ignore them."

LIFE ETIQUETTE 101 For SLOW DRAFT:
1. Never name call, threaten fellow players or ridicule them in a draft or message board as DOUGHBOY and his thugs did. This applies to life as well. Patience is a virtue and doing unto others as you would have done to you can go a long way in the game of life.
2. Be considerate of people and their life. You never know what might be going on in someone's life even if they are not openly talking about it with you. Extend your graciousness to your fellow man.
3. If you join a slow draft do not join one with DOUGBOY and his cohorts. Slow drafts are called slow drafts because they are SLOW DRAFTS. Request a league with players that understand the rules and are willing to actually draft slowly in a slow draft. Request to be with players that respect your time and would be accepting if life throws you a curve ball during a draft.


In conclusion:

DOUGHBOY Still decided to write this post almost a year a later, even though he knew all my circumstances. MY FATHER DIED TWO WEEKS AFTER THE DRAFT FINISHED DOUGHBOY ! I know Greg told him that my father died but he still wrote this post ? Which I think is disgusting and unbecoming of anyone I would like to assocaite with in any walk of life. I prey to GOD that DOUGHBOY never has to go through what I went through. Heart complications, Extreme work and Travel, Taking care of a sick loved one whom is dieing and that same time be called names and threaten because I did not draft fast enough to his liking !? YOU DOUGHBOY made my fathers passing and my complications of life miserable. The draft was supposed to be my refuge from all the pain and suffering and instead it was the exact opposite. All thanks to you and your buddies.

Congrats DOUGHBOY I see you gave yourself a big pat on your shoulder in your post for coming in first and beating a guy that was sick and lost his father to a slow painful death. Way to go ! Your such a winner !

Only one problem with your story... We all know Dan so I don't believe a word of what you say about him.

With that said... very sorry to hear about such a troubling time in your family. I hope you have a good Christmas and 2013 treats you better.

Even if the truth lies somewhere in the middle in Marcel's case, thats pretty bad behavior. From what I have seen this year in the slow drafts, and last, that behavior unfortunately is not uncommon. Im in the league with Marcel this year and in the chat room, after he even explained his side of the story from last year...the response by the other draftee, was pretty much "yeah whatever, make your damn pick".

At a time when our country has seen enough pain and suffering, I'm hopeful that we can all realize what is truly important in life. Finishing a Slow Draft in 21 days instead of 18 isn't one of them. FAMILY is our top priority. Being courteous to others is important. And forgiving is important. We learn all of that at a young age.

I'm saying right now it's time to forgive and forget. I know what happened last year in a draft that started in December and finished in plenty of time to start the season. Now it's time to forgive and move on.

The key to anyone who has had things come up in their lives after they've signed up for one of these drafts is COMMUNICATION. The other 14 owners just want to know what is going on in your life, why you are signed into the draft room and not picking for 8 hours (maybe you have the computer on at work with this page open and you're still working), and why you aren't picking quickly. Folks just need to know if you'll be in the draft room at night or if they can call it a night. Thinking of others even during tough times is key and it's easy to do within the league chat room. Just post in there that "I really can't be around tonight. Sorry. But I promise to pick as soon as it's my turn in the morning and then set my Que up." Something like that goes a long ways.

Communication is key in these DC leagues. You are part of a small social network for 21-23 days. 15 different personalities. 15 different lifestyles. 15 different personal problems. Make it work on your own. It's not that hard to do. And in the end, it can be a release from life, a fun experience, and even a winning experience. Enjoy all and remember the Christmas spirit at this time.

Marcel,

I posted in a $375 thread that I am in slow draft #2 with you and that you were doing just fine. Not only are you picking In a timely manner but also you let us know when you will be around. That's all anyone can ask for. As for last year, I wasn't part of that draft and I don't know what was said but I certainly can relate to you because my father is going to be passing away very soon from Cancer as well. More than likely before our draft is over but certainly shortly after. It won't have an affect on me from a draft standpoint because I have a partner in all NFBC events. I know what your going through and trust me I wouldn't worry about what people said in a slow draft when you are dealing issues as you were. You seem like a pretty good guy and unfortunately you had a rough draft. All I can judge from is personal experience and you've been top notch in our draft. Good luck and happy holidays.

I agree SD 2 has been fine.... I too echo Gregs sentiments.... it has been my experiance that there have been some pretty harsh things said in draft rooms, and soemtimes I think people dont get the written word can have unintended meanings and interps... the old phrase "think before you speak" more than ever applies to the online world, except it's "think before you write". A little more respect and kindness these days by everyone would be nice....

Greg Ambrosius wrote: Communication is key in these DC leagues. You are part of a small social network for 21-23 days. 15 different personalities. 15 different lifestyles. 15 different personal problems. Make it work on your own. It's not that hard to do.

Everyone that enters a slow draft should read ^^^ that statement and plan accordingly! Every problem I've ever seen in these drafts has come from a lack of communication. If you want to be an angry non-chatting hermit, this is not the format for you.

Fast drafts have very little communication. Slow drafts are social and if you act like a weird guy who stands in the corner with his head down at a party and doesn't talk to anyone, you will be treated accordingly - people will wonder why you showed up in the first place.

As for this thread, I think many of us here know Dan well enough to find the first post here outlandish and one-sided. Dan communicates exceptionally well and he's a thoughtful guy, but I'll bet if someone parked their car at the end of his driveway with no explanation, then came back 8 hours later with no explanation as to why, and did it day after day for a week, he'd be pretty pissed off. Rightly so. If personal problems are too overwhelming to participate, either don't participate or hand the team off to someone who can.

Part of the problem here, which I have argued year after year, is that everyone should know upfront what they are taking on. You may have a legal "right" to take your full 8-hours, but it won't be without conseqeunces just like the right to free speech allows you to say many things that will not go over well in society.

Greg's bolded statement above should be mandatory reading for everyone in a slow draft.

Let me also say that these Slow Drafts are a BEAST that we all created. Yes, I know that some smaller sites were doing these for lower payouts before KJ helped us set these up, and that there were Mock Draft sites that everyone used before us. But we've helped to create this phenomenon -- a BEAST in some circles -- and others will likely copy us. So we need to all realize what a great thing these slow drafts are and continue to improve on them.

They are a mini social network. On the one hand, as Todd Zola pointed out a few weeks ago, that's what makes these so great. You have communication with 14 other like-minded baseball nuts for three weeks. You can get other opinions on 750 different players if you want. You can talk about family and actually HELP others through personal problems. You can bounce off strategy ideas with 14 others. The chat can be FUN if you want.

KJ is right, you can't be non-responsive and expect everyone to understand your life's problems. That being said, once attacked and with 14 people on one side thinking the worst of you, it's tough to come back and explain it thoroughly. I know because I did reach out to some in this league and explained his situation and was told "that's too bad, but he should pick more quickly." It took me aback. The focus was totally on the league.

These can be great beasts, so keep them that way. We started 6 leagues exactly three weeks ago today and 3 are complete, two should be done in the next day or two and one is several days away. These first drafts were done in 14 days, 19, 20, 21 and 21+. Each is different and the perceptions of "too slow" vary from league to league. I assume communication among owners has varied between each league.

Good luck the rest of the way. I LOVE this format and want it to continue to succeed. Since we built this BEAST, we should be the ones to fix it when we see problems.

I just participated in Dan's slow draft e-mail league with no clock; I never participated in a finer draft with gentlemen. One man, his daughter needed emergency surgery, that made us even a closer knit 15 member community.
Do I sometimes get frustrated when doing a slow draft that seems to be going slow? Sure, but I have to remind myself, I signed up for this slow draft and it is what it is. Put together a damn league that isn't a slow draft; wait for the online leagues to start and pick in 75 seconds or whatever. That said, the e-mail slow draft was my BEST DRAFT EVER!!!!

Marcel, I am very sorry you had to endure such behavior. It is asinine that anyone could express such behavior through draft chat and subsequent posts on this site. No matter what duke says, it is a game! His remarks were as inappropriate as the original. Ridiculous!

I remember this from last year and all that matters now is, people realize that we have family and loved ones that will always be priority over a fantasy baseball draft. As Greg says, now more than ever, it is most important to respect others and be understanding to circumstances.

That being said, and not knowing you personally Marcel or what you went through, it must have been a very difficult time. I think what was the biggest issue from last year and Dan's biggest complaint (I was not in the draft, but saw his posts later) was that the communication was not there. Even if you say something in the chat room, it doesnt mean everyone is going to see it. One of the issues we were trying to get corrected for this year was, allowing us to see old posts for the purposes of keeping up with peopes schedules and also, emergencies.

Also, knowing the type of person Dan is, I can only say, he will be the first one to say he was wrong and apologize and I am sure he will eventually. Whether he was wrong or right. He is a straight up great guy and I think this really needs to end now. Let us put everything into perspective... seriously.

When I first read this rant by Marcel (and I will address him in this post only in the third person because I do not feel that what he wrote here is worthy of any consideration even to the level of the grain of proverbial salt), I promised myself that I would hold my tongue and let his idiocy pass. For those of you who know me, this is a very difficult thing for me to do, particularly when the personal integrity and moral character of a Dan Kenyon aka "Doughboy" is called into question publicly in this forum. As a class act that he is, I'm sure that he chose not to respond to Marcel's attacks here, and reached out to him personally to extend an olive branch and dare I say even an apology for any offense caused by his posts regarding Marcel this year and last, none of which even approached the level of venom spewed by Marcel in his rant on this thread.

So what made me decide to break my silence? I'm in a Draft Champions League right now that started about 9-10 days ago that is moving along quite nicely at a pace averaging about four rounds a day with a great bunch of guys, many of whom I hardly know or not at all before this draft. There are some newbies, some veterans, but all of them committed to sharing their cell numbers with me so I could help "gently facilitate" things throughout the day. Everyone has also been great about posting on the live chat to give status updates on their availability, situations, delays, need for support or help, etc., or checking in with me via text. Even the one owner who was new to the NFBC who got off to a rocky start by timing out on his round one and two picks because he was unclear about the draft start date, and weathered some serious lambasting and Marcel-like comparisons, came around nicely after apologizing to his fellow league mates, and has been a model citizen ever since (he really had no choice since he was drafting right in front of me ). In short, this is the way all of these leagues should go. The comaraderie is great, the trash-talk completely acceptable, and the communication and respect amongst owners is superior. So tonight in the middle of a nice run when we're mock bemoaning a 15 minute delay of an owner who was a little late to the party for his pick, one of the guys jumps in on the chat and posts that this league is great compared to a couple of the others he's in. I asked why. He posts that two of the four he's doing are moving along fine, but the other two are averaging more than three hours per pick, and are being held back by one owner in particular who he was furious with for being on the turn and taking three hours to pick. I said that sucked. He said that it did, but what made it even worse was that this owner took another three hours to make his second pick on the turn!. I was incredulous. Who the f@#% and what kind of a-hole would be so self-serving and inconsiderate to do such a thing to his fellow league mates?! I posted. He said to take a guess. I said don't tell me...He said, "BINGO!" And he didn't mean the dog from the song either!

Yes, he was indeed referencing Marcel. Needless to say I lost it. Not because I was aggravated at Marcel for again demonstrating the level of moral character, manners, and respect for others than he himself obviously lacks, but for the fact that he took someone to task publicly on this forum who exemplifies everything in life as a competitor, league mate, and a man that he himself does not, in Dan Kenyon. Dan is a model citizen of the NFBC community, and someone who in what he says and does by his participation in this organization on so many levels, contributes positively to others and makes this little fantasy world we escape into a better place to go and be for awhile each day. For someone like Marcel, who exemplifies none of these positive qualities, and only takes from others who he participates with in the NFBC rather than barely giving at all, it is completely farcical and borderline obscene to pay him any credence whatsoever in whatever he says, since his actions or lack there of speak volumes of who he truly is. What makes it even worse is that he used his sick and dying father as an excuse for his rudeness, disregard for others, and outright irresponsibility on his part to decently and fairly communicate with others that he signed on to play with as a member of a group that he committed his allegiance to when all of this was going on with his father (we even had to find it out through Greg and not Marcel himself when all of this was transpiring last year). There's a word for people who operate like this in life, hiding behind the misfortunes of others and justifying their actions even when they are wrong or inappropriate with excuses, stories, reasons, etc. It's called a "coward". I'm sure Marcel's father was a good man and did so much good on behalf of others throughout his life when he was alive. It is truly unfortunate that his son did not learn some of the most important lessons in life and examples that he most likely tried to set for him in relating, interacting, and dealing with other people in this world. Yes, this may indeed be a fantasy world that we operate in in the NFBC, but there are still many ways in which fantasy mirrors reality, and lessons can be learned in this world, too. Fellow NFBC'er, Roger Martin's situation from October/November of this year, would be a great example in case anyone missed it.

During Dan Kenyon's email draft, Roger's little girl was diagnosed with brain tumors, and she had to have not one but two separate, immediate surgeries a couple of weeks apart which at the time, he had no idea what the outcome would be. The doctors weren't sure if they were going to be benign or malignant tumors. All of this took place during the draft. Roger kept us in the loop, and we in turn supported him with our thoughts, prayers, and positive energy to help see little Mia and the rest of the Martin family through this ordeal. All the while, Roger did his best to make his picks, even when he didn't have to and when we all were perfectly willingly to wait it out until Mia was out of the woods and hopefully got a clean bill of health (which thank God she did). Sometimes a day or two would pass with the draft on hold, but no one complained. Roger even urged that we skip his picks and come back to him. No dice. We were all in this together as a family of league mates who had not only Roger's back, but each other's backs in the meantime. See right around the same time, those of us out east got hit with Hurricane Sandy. Some of us were displaced from our homes (mine almost burned to the ground, but luckily we caught it in time). Some of us lost power and just about everything else for over a week or more, and suffered property loss and other severe damage and hardship. There were other mishaps, misfortunes, and maladies one or more of us endured throughout the course of the draft, but not a single one of us made an excuse or justification for any of it. We communicated. We treated each other with manners and respect. We took responsibility for our actions and what was happening in our lives and did not blame a single thing on anyone or any of our life situations. All of us bonded and became friends even though most of us still only know each other via email and text messages. This is the power of what can happen when the intention and attention is on others besides oneself. Again, lessons that Marcel will hopefully perhaps begin to understand and grasp someday in order to do some serious introspection on how he leads his life in relation to others.

So before there is any further coddling or sympathy for Marcel on these boards, consider what was written here. I think it is about time that he take some level of resposibility for his own actions and life and how he leads it in relationship to others, particularly as part of this amazing NFBC community. Maybe this post will only serve to further infuriate Marcel or cause him to leave and no longer compete with us. This is entirely possible given the way that he thinks and continues to demonstrate in his mostly flippant disregard for others that he interacts with as part of this community be it in the draft rooms or on this forum. That would be fine for most of us I'm sure. Sometimes addition by subtraction is a good thing. And if this does end up being the case, I would be more than happy to make up for the revenue loss suffered by Greg and Tom each year by him not being a part of the NFBC if I am the one who ultimately drove Marcel away. Who knows how much money is being lost as it stands right now as a result of how Marcel has so negatively affected others in these competitions.

Finally, I'll end with this: Before Marcel ever dares again to make a post on this forum in some crazed and vain attempt to school us all on "Life Etiquette" or the like, he should seriously consider his own life and moral fiber before making a fool of himself again. Those of us who know and can recognize the truth when we see it (and read it) would all be better off spared more of his indignant, whining, self-indulgent bullshit. And to quote the great Forrest Gump, "That's all I got to say about that."

And P.S., please let Marcel know that I will be in Vegas personally this year (which is where he is from as I understand), and I would be more than happy to back up every word that I have written here to him face-to-face.

I think my league mate was being kind . i am in this draft also . this clown does this EVERY DAY his green light is on all day but he never picks . the double pick on the turn that he just left after one pick . no it was more like he took 6hr on the first and left for 5/6 hr for the next with everyone lined up ready to take there pick .this is why my next draft i signed up for Dan Ks faster only down at night draft .i'm tierd of one clown slowing down 14 others .sure i might slow down the draft one day a week on bowling day but everyone knows this because i tell them every week .i can't wait to see how nice my next draft will be with owners that like to draft have fun and not play some f####en game of hide and seek .thanks Dan K for coming up with a better plan . also if Marcel signs up for this one i want out .

Well said Mike. As the great Stewie Griffin would say, "spot on".

Or in other words, "What we've got here is a failure to communicate". If what Marcel is truth or not, everyone has life problems and we just need to be respectful and communicate, which by everyone's account other than his, Marcel wasn't. And if anyone deserves the benefit of the doubt as far as character, its Dan. The more I read the original post, the more I think the entire thread was completely unnecessary. The best way to prove the type of person you are is by your actions, not your words.

You could not of said it better Mike nicely done.

It is a slow draft!!!! We all have 8 hrs. I think it sould be expected that sometimes we need the full 8 hrs....Last year I used my full 8 to draft Braun in the 3rd round...I went over different scenerios and considered drafting other ppl. I'm glad I took the full 8 and drafted Braun....Use the 8 hrs if needed...I think

Life is good wrote:It is a slow draft!!!! We all have 8 hrs. I think it sould be expected that sometimes we need the full 8 hrs....Last year I used my full 8 to draft Braun in the 3rd round...I went over different scenerios and considered drafting other ppl. I'm glad I took the full 8 and drafted Braun....Use the 8 hrs if needed...I think

If everyone thought that way, we would finish the draft around the all star break. NO, DO NOT USE THE 8 HOURS if you need to, only if you HAVE to. The 8 hours were implemented to deal with overnight situations, and if you are at work all day and cannot access a computer. No one needs to use 8 hours thinking about who to pick. Yes, 8 hours are there, if you have no other choice, and it is no longer called a "slow" draft, for that purpose.

And this is not about circumstances beyond your control. We need to be considerate and communicate. If you let people know what is happening, no one should be getting on your case, as long as it doesn't occur time and again.

Life is good wrote:It is a slow draft!!!! We all have 8 hrs. I think it sould be expected that sometimes we need the full 8 hrs....Last year I used my full 8 to draft Braun in the 3rd round...I went over different scenerios and considered drafting other ppl. I'm glad I took the full 8 and drafted Braun....Use the 8 hrs if needed...I think

might be the # 1 dumbest post ever . 8 hrs for a 3rd round pick . did you ask for extra time for your 20th rd pick . next time you want to post something this dumb don't .

This is a brutal debate where what's truly right or wrong is difficult to determine. The problem is that an 8-hour clock, no matter the reason for its creation, allows for a complete spectrum of what participants expect when they sign up for one of these drafts. Some obviously desire these drafts to be leisurely with no pressure to make a quick decision or pick and if the draft lasts 'til the All-Star break, so be it, there would still be 3 months left in the season. Others feel that the 8 hours should only be utilized for sleep and that those who actually decide to sleep when their pick is upcoming have their priorities messed up. Others fall somewhere in between these two extremes. The problem isn't with the players who join for disparate reasons or with opposing expectations, the problem is with the clock itself and that it allows all these differing agendas. It's one of the reasons I've played less and less in this format since I first tried and loved it.

True, communication would help. However, if the same player communicated that he would be making his pick only at 8pm each evening, I still doubt that communication would spare him the animosity of most of the rest of his league.

I believe the true remedy for this issue is in the evolution of this format into specialized drafts or Unique Draft Champion Offerings as named on these message boards. The 4-hour clock, the same time zone drafts, the Doughboys 8-hours only for sleep drafts, etc., will allow for like-minded players to play in the way they all feel most comfortable. Hopefully, it helps alleviate some of the negatives we've seen with a format that has for the most part been positive since its creation. I believe these new ideas will help continue to grow a format that's already grown significantly over the past couple years.

For myself, I'll only be playing Max's 1000 Slow this year. I know that draft will move at a pace that meets my expectations.

Glenneration X wrote:This is a brutal debate where what's truly right or wrong is difficult to determine. The problem is that an 8-hour clock, no matter the reason for its creation, allows for a complete spectrum of what participants expect when they sign up for one of these drafts. Some obviously desire these drafts to be leisurely with no pressure to make a quick decision or pick and if the draft lasts 'til the All-Star break, so be it, there would still be 3 months left in the season. Others feel that the 8 hours should only be utilized for sleep and that those who actually decide to sleep when their pick is upcoming have their priorities messed up. Others fall somewhere in between these two extremes. The problem isn't with the players who join for disparate reasons or with opposing expectations, the problem is with the clock itself and that it allows all these differing agendas. It's one of the reasons I've played less and less in this format since I first tried and loved it.

True, communication would help. However, if the same player communicated that he would be making his pick only at 8pm each evening, I still doubt that communication would spare him the animosity of most of the rest of his league.

I believe the true remedy for this issue is in the evolution of this format into specialized drafts or Unique Draft Champion Offerings as named on these message boards. The 4-hour clock, the same time zone drafts, the Doughboys 8-hours only for sleep drafts, etc., will allow for like-minded players to play in the way they all feel most comfortable. Hopefully, it helps alleviate some of the negatives we've seen with a format that has for the most part been positive since its creation. I believe these new ideas will help continue to grow a format that's already grown significantly over the past couple years.

For myself, I'll only be playing Max's 1000 Slow this year. I know that draft will move at a pace that meets my expectations.

Some great points here, Glenn, however, this post isn't about the issues caused by an eight hour time clock. It's about the issues caused by one person out of several hundred who participate in this format in the NFBC each year that the majority of us who have experienced interacting with him are completely fed up with. Maybe it took a person like Marcel to come along to help be an unfortunate instigator for the changes you and others have suggested.

First I don't need to defend Dan. He has his ducks in a row. The other fellow needs all the support he can get. I can't help him at all. I can say that the slow drafts bring out the very worst in some people. Real things that happened to me. The draft fills and the start date is the next day. After work I get home and have 5 hate e-mails attacking me for not drafting early like everyone else. I didn't even know the draft had filled. Another draft is going real slow. The word is put out if you have to work or be away, lineup your picks and go on auto. This is around the 6th round. I want a good closer so I lineup 6 closers thinking I should get one. Nope I got 6. My great league mates didn't start thinking until after the 6th closer that maybe something was amiss. I'll give them credit though. They stopped the draft after all the good hitting and starting pitching dried up. Our half a round a night draft had exploded for 6 plus rounds. Everyone got so excited they just kept drafting and drafting. What the heck he must want all those closers. A few said they were sorry after the fact. I heard them snickering though. I had the last laugh though. No I didn't win the league. But 14th is better than 15th. The point is for every good slow draft you hear about there's another that wasn't so good.

Walla Walla: So it is said so it is done.

Walla Walla wrote:First I don't need to defend Dan. He has his ducks in a row. The other fellow needs all the support he can get. I can't help him at all. I can say that the slow drafts bring out the very worst in some people. Real things that happened to me. The draft fills and the start date is the next day. After work I get home and have 5 hate e-mails attacking me for not drafting early like everyone else. I didn't even know the draft had filled. Another draft is going real slow. The word is put out if you have to work or be away, lineup your picks and go on auto. This is around the 6th round. I want a good closer so I lineup 6 closers thinking I should get one. Nope I got 6. My great league mates didn't start thinking until after the 6th closer that maybe something was amiss. I'll give them credit though. They stopped the draft after all the good hitting and starting pitching dried up. Our half a round a night draft had exploded for 6 plus rounds. Everyone got so excited they just kept drafting and drafting. What the heck he must want all those closers. A few said they were sorry after the fact. I heard them snickering though. I had the last laugh though. No I didn't win the league. But 14th is better than 15th. The point is for every good slow draft you hear about there's another that wasn't so good.

Walla Walla: So it is said so it is done.

This must be fiction and I'm gullible. You wanted a closer in the 6th round and were willing to accept the 6th best in the 6th round? You went on auto and ended up with all 6? Today we have auto 1 to alleviate that problem.

Your decision to retire was probably a good one. I love your spunk to tell these stories. Keep them coming!!!!

I was in the same Slow Draft as Marcel. I came to his defense because i thought it was ridiculous for people to attack him. And yes, people were attacking him.

What frustrated me was that he would log on, stay logged on for hours, and then leave. There was one pick where he logged on a few hours into his pick, actually typed in the chat room, then left.

That was where I felt it went over the line. I'm one of those people who could care less if you spend 20 minutes or 7 hours on your pick. It's a slow draft for a reason.

My big worry though was waking up and I had five minutes left to pick (Which happened once).

Marcel briefly explained his situation in the chat, and I was very understanding (as anyone would). I just thought it was very odd the log ins during picks and then leaving and then a pick was made 6-7 hours later. To me, that was the only issue.

I think you are all ridiculous to bash someone for following the rules. If you want to take 7 hours on your 40th round pick, go for it. It's within the rules. The season starts in April, and these drafts start January. You want a faster draft, then do a faster draft. But it is a slow draft for a reason.

It's called being courteous to your fellow drafters. I do slow drafts every year and am not always able to log on from work to make the picks. But I'll use one round auto where I can, or I'll at least leave a comment in the chat about what time I expect to be back on. You can't log on for hours and hours and then disappear before your pick, and not let everyone know what is happening. And just because you "can" take 8 hours per pick doesn't mean you "should" take 8 hours. Common freaking sense.