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Derrek Lee
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 1:26 pm
by King of Queens
Derrek Lee seemed to slip in a lot of drafts, partly due to his shoulder injury. I was really shocked when he sitting there at #11 in today's Ultimate Draft, and was happy to scoop him up. Is this the latest he went in any draft?
Derrek Lee
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 2:15 pm
by bjoak
He went anywhere from 5-12 in the different Vegas drafts I saw. As a case study, I was going to take him 5 but got scared off by his shoulder and took Bay. I think he'll be fine, but I don't like to take those kinds of risks in the first round.
Derrek Lee
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 3:38 pm
by seefer
I purchased Mr. Lee's services in my NL only auction on Friday for $35. Several players went for more including: Pujols 46, Bay 40, Reyes 37, Helton 36, Wright 36, and I'm sure there were a couple others...
Unfortunately even if he is 100% healthy (never know when it comes to a Cubs' injury as they like to hide injuries until all tickets are sold) he won't be able to help my sorry offense. :rolleyes:
Derrek Lee
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 4:02 pm
by Gordon Gekko
lee had a career year last year. this year he was gonna post numbers closer to his career averages. couple that with his injury and there's no way i woulda picked hi in the first round.
Derrek Lee
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 6:05 pm
by King of Queens
I wouldn't have taken him in the top 5-7 either, but 11? Insanity...
Derrek Lee
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 2:14 am
by edelman24
I disagree with everyone as I took D. Lee at pick #5, GG you say career year? But you took Bay at pick #7 he has never done anything other then that 1 year and 21 out of 23 SB's I don't see that happening again. I think D. Lee switch from Florida to Chicago drastically helped his power numbers so him goiong 40-100 is not out of the question I see him putting up the same numbers with his avg dropping to around .300 and those numbers to me coupled with his 10-15 steals and being a 1b...make him more valuable in my eyes then Manny or Ortiz the other guys I was considering as much as I do like the speed and youth of someone like Bay or Wright its just stretching to to me to see how early they went and everyone taking Figgins/Rollins/Reyes as 1st rounders is all the same to me. I was able to compile 170 steals or so on my avg and I think that should be quite well and my top picks were DLee, Jeter, and the steal of our draft Helton in the 3rd. So we will see who was right in the end , but hopefully I am

Derrek Lee
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 2:44 am
by Team Herron
I gladly took him at #12 in the Ultimate.
Derrek Lee
Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:49 am
by The Sensei
Felt verrrry lucky to get him at #11 in LV3 and Jesse, you had to be crapping the bed when he fell to you at 12 in Ultimate. Once I saw Beltran go at 10 I thought maybe I had a shot at getting him at 15, lol.
Derrek Lee
Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 6:02 am
by eddiejag
TOP 15 IN VEGAS ULTIMATE
1 AROD
2 PULJOS
3 SANTANA
4 VLAD
5 TEIRIERA
6 CRAWFORD
7 WRIGHT
8 BAY
9 ABREU
10 BELTRAN
11 RAMERIZ
12 D LEE
13 UTLEY
14 ORTIZ
15 FIGGINS
Any really suprises here. My opinion beltran at 10 , i would have gambled ,and grabbed a slugger , and hoped beltran made it back on the swing. They did grab HAFNER on the swing , who i love. Maybe UTLEY or FIGGINS at 13 , 15 but they moved to the 1st round in a lot of leagues.
I could live with any of the top 15.
Going to VEGAS was just awesome . Finally got to meet greg, and a bunch of great guys.My 15 year old son had a blast. Thanks to everybody in vegas who came up and said hi, and talk a little fantasy. GREG looks younger in person, and did a great job in the ultimate. THANKS EVERYBODY IN VEGAS. EDDIE GILLIS
Derrek Lee
Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 6:12 am
by hankstr
Hey Eddie, I was one of the guys talking with you on Saturday after the draft - you had pick #1 and I had #15. I took Figgins and Reyes on the swing - I did not see any other LV drafts with a speed/speed combo. Anyway, it was nice meeting you and some of the others guys. We're in a tough league for sure.
Derrek Lee
Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 6:20 am
by Chest Rockwell
Originally posted by hankstr:
Hey Eddie, I was one of the guys talking with you on Saturday after the draft - you had pick #1 and I had #15. I took Figgins and Reyes on the swing - I did not see any other LV drafts with a speed/speed combo. Anyway, it was nice meeting you and some of the others guys. We're in a tough league for sure. Very risky move- were you able to build power later and not have to pass on value because you already had too much speed later?
Derrek Lee
Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 6:41 am
by eddiejag
HANKSTR i do remember are chat after the draft.In the ultimate pick 15 did the same thing ,FIGGINS and REYES.You both got DUNN on your 3rd pick , which probably didnt happen for most guys with that pick.I considered DUNN in the ultimate at three, pick 1.I also remember your two year ranking at 25.I be watching you.
GOOD LUCK
Derrek Lee
Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 6:55 am
by hankstr
Chest, you are right - it was risky. I hoped to put pressure on the remaining speed guys (e.g. Freel, Taveras) and perhaps inflate their value even though they are risky propositions. It is so freakin' hard to get decent speed. I tried to make up for the initial power shortage by drafting guys like Dunn, Thome, and Tracy and of course balancing it with pitching. If Thome hits 35-40 then I'll be in very good shape but he's a health risk too.
Derrek Lee
Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 6:57 am
by hankstr
Thanks Eddie, good luck to you as well.
Derrek Lee
Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 8:58 am
by Gordon Gekko
Originally posted by edelman24:
I disagree with everyone as I took D. Lee at pick #5, GG you say career year? career year and he's HURT. shoulder injuries can zap power quick. good luck with lee. i didn't want any part of him in the first and i woulda passed on him in the 2nd.
Derrek Lee
Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 10:14 am
by ALL-IN JD
Hey Ed, hows it going. Sorry we missed you in NY. Howd ya make out in the Ultimate Draft. Im lovin my team alot but who knows? Injuries always tell the story. I picked 8th and came away with:
C Mauer, Willingham
1B R. Howard
2B Iguchi
SS Tejada
3B Wright
MI R. Cedeno
CI Randa
OF Patterson
OF Kearns
OF Bradley
OF Michaels
OF Aguila
SP Harden(5th round)
SP Patterson
SP Vazquez
SP Contreras
SP Madson
SP Baker
RP Benitez(round 8)
RP Gordon(round 9)
RP Devine
RS Cuddyer
RS A. Hill
RS Bagwell(30th round, useless pick)
RS Francisco Liriano
RS Fossum
RS F. Cabrera
RS C. Hansen
Jeff
Derrek Lee
Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 12:20 pm
by The Sensei
Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:
quote:Originally posted by hankstr:
Hey Eddie, I was one of the guys talking with you on Saturday after the draft - you had pick #1 and I had #15. I took Figgins and Reyes on the swing - I did not see any other LV drafts with a speed/speed combo. Anyway, it was nice meeting you and some of the others guys. We're in a tough league for sure. Very risky move- were you able to build power later and not have to pass on value because you already had too much speed later? [/QUOTE]I was the 15 in the Ultimate (Fig/Reyes) and was able to get plenty of power later (A.Jones falling to me at 45, Dunn at 46, then Bonds and Ensberg the next two, with Fielder later). Ended up not worrying about BA and hope to get 15/15/15/15 in R/HR/RBI/SB and then hope for the best in avg. Pitching should be decent to good, took Prior at what I thought was a reasonable risk (end 11) and then Schilling/C.Young/Lieber/Blanton/Liriano/Heilman with Jenks/M.Gonzalez at closer with possible saves from R.Hern/Hermanson/Coffey/Hawkins. Was a great ultimate draft, finished in about 3:20, and was so much fun talking to everyone afterwards. Good luck!
Derrek Lee
Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 1:31 pm
by eddiejag
FIREBALLS or JEFF whats up. I did miss NY but VEGAS was unreal.Met so many great guys, sat next to jack straw in the main event vegas 3,and had a great time thru the draft.Also went to dinner after the draft with shawn from cc desparados and buster from creative sports,talk about guys that know their stuff, just a great night after the american league auction.The auction guy brady was the best , every big time fantasy gamer loves having brady, moves fast.
HERE'S MY ULTIMATE TEAM
1 AROD
2 C LEE
3 BERKMAN
4 J NATHAN
5 J DAMON
6 B MYERS
7 IGUCHI
8 WILKERSON
9 B CROSBY
10D HAREN
11 S KAZMIR
12 IBANEZ
13 ORVELLA
14M LOWELL
15 J BOROWSKI
16M ALOU
17J JONES
18A REYES
19G MADDOX
20 R BELLIARD
21 F RODNEY
22 J LARUE
23 J CASTILLO
24 D MCPHERSON
25 J TORREALBA
26 R CHURCH
27 V DIAZ
28 C FOSSOM
29 A HILL
30 H CARRASCO
IT'S GAME TIME , GOOD LUCK TO ALL.