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ADP's and undrafted players

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 4:52 pm
by Beans
It appears that when a player is not drafted in a league, that result is ignored for the purposes of calculating the player's ADP. I think this could be misleading. For example now that Bryan LaHair signed in Japan, he is no longer being drafted, yet his ADP is still 'stuck' at 585.81. Not a huge deal with such a low-ranked player, but could become more relevant if a big name suffers a season-ending injury (like Victor Martinez last year) - it wouldn't make sense for his ADP to be unchanged because he is no longer being drafted.

I think it also creates some misleading results out in the late rounds of the drafts. For example, we have Esmil Rogers' ADP at 620, which comes from 8 picks, which means he was entirely undrafted in 26 leagues. Then there is Jake Arrieta with an ADP of 625.5, coming from 32 leagues. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think most would agree that from this data, Arrieta's ranking should be higher than Rogers.

Maybe the solution is to assign all players who weren't drafted in a 50 round league a draft position of 751 (50 x 15 + 1) for that draft? What do people think?

Re: ADP's and undrafted players

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:47 pm
by Greg Ambrosius
The columns do show how many times he's been drafted in 30+ leagues, so everyone should definitely look at that column as well. Again, these are not definitive road maps for you to follow on Draft Day, just calculations and data of where these guys are being drafted on average WHEN they are being drafted. There's plenty of data in those ADPs, so use them fully.

Re: ADP's and undrafted players

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 6:35 pm
by ECB
Why don't all drafted players show up in the ADP list?

Re: ADP's and undrafted players

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:03 pm
by gpchurchill
ECB wrote:Why don't all drafted players show up in the ADP list?
great question. i have been wondering that myself.

Re: ADP's and undrafted players

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:16 pm
by Greg Ambrosius
ECB wrote:Why don't all drafted players show up in the ADP list?
There are 824 players listed in the ADP. I assume we are missing some, but feel free to post who we are missing that is being drafted multiple times. I'll see what's up with that if they're missing.

Re: ADP's and undrafted players

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:23 pm
by ECB
Mike Zunino
James Paxton
Robbie Erlin
Jarred Cosart
Jose Fernandez

Re: ADP's and undrafted players

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:31 pm
by Greg Ambrosius
ECB wrote:Mike Zunino
James Paxton
Robbie Erlin
Jarred Cosart
Jose Fernandez
Okay. I can't find Oscar Taveras either, so it's possible that something involving players whose IDs we entered after drafts started aren't being calculated. Send more names if possible and I'll ask this to get fixed. There seems to be a pattern with the list of names above.

Re: ADP's and undrafted players

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:43 pm
by Greg Ambrosius
ECB wrote:Mike Zunino
James Paxton
Robbie Erlin
Jarred Cosart
Jose Fernandez
These players plus Oscar Taveras are all in the updated ADPs. Thanks for the heads up. If you see anyone else we may be missing, let us know. Thanks.