Starting a draft with Pitcher/Pitcher

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Starting a draft with Pitcher/Pitcher

Post by BK METS » Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:43 pm

I was hoping for some feedback as to anyone who has won a league, in the past, starting with pitcher/pitcher in the first two rounds. I did it for the first time in the $375 Mia (Rog's daughter) DC and I am finding it to be very interesting. I have had to punt BA, but in the $375 DC, paying the same to the top 3, I think punting one category is still a winning strategy. We have managed to make it into the 20th round in 3 days.. Very tough competition... I have managed to gather some decent power guys, base stealers, and obviously my pitching is good, though still needs some back end starters.. Let me know your thoughts and anyone who has won with this or any pitcher/pitcher strategy..

C- R.Martin, C.Inannetta
1B - C Davis, R Howard
2B - G Beckham
3B - J Gyorko, T Plouffe
SS - I Desmond
OF - C Granderson, M Trumbo, M Bourn, J Willingham, B Revere
SP - S Strasburg, J Verlander, K Medlen, H Kuroda, T Hanson
RP - J Hanrahan, G Perkins

Yes, batting average is bad.. any other thoughts?
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Re: Starting a draft with Pitcher/Pitcher

Post by Captain Hook » Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:49 pm

Well Gyorko is Jedd and isn't likely to be in San Diego in April so Plouffe better get healthy or you will have to play a late round third sacker

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Post by ALL-IN JD » Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:59 pm

I also think you need another base stealer (MI) because all you have is Bourn and Revere (not that wont give you 90-100 steals). I am also not sold on Perkins as the full time closer (maybe grab Burton as insurance).

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Post by BK METS » Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:02 pm

Captain Hook wrote:Well Gyorko is Jedd and isn't likely to be in San Diego in April so Plouffe better get healthy or you will have to play a late round third sacker
From what I am reading, Gyorko is switching to 2nd base and needs to beat out Logan Forsythe, who is hurt... I guess we will see.

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Post by BK METS » Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:09 pm

ALL-IN JD wrote:I also think you need another base stealer (MI) because all you have is Bourn and Revere (not that wont give you 90-100 steals). I am also not sold on Perkins as the full time closer (maybe grab Burton as insurance).
Yeah, I dont think steals is going to be an issue... Desmond and Grandy should give me a few, and steals are always obtainable late as well as backup closers. Thanks for the input... I figure I am going to be light in some hitting cats, when going SP/SP, but I think other than BA, I am going to be ok.

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Re: Starting a draft with Pitcher/Pitcher

Post by hot and cold » Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:43 pm

not enough power .

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Post by hot and cold » Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:54 pm

This is the (mia) doughboys league . With no power not much at 2nd base or 3rd base .Then throw in the good group in that DC league looks like a long year for you .Would have been better to grab Beltre at 3rd and throw back Verlander .jmo

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Re: Starting a draft with Pitcher/Pitcher

Post by Gekko » Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:33 pm

BK METS wrote:I was hoping for some feedback as to anyone who has won a league, in the past, starting with pitcher/pitcher in the first two rounds. I did it for the first time in the $375 Mia (Rog's daughter) DC and I am finding it to be very interesting. I have had to punt BA, but in the $375 DC, paying the same to the top 3, I think punting one category is still a winning strategy. We have managed to make it into the 20th round in 3 days.. Very tough competition... I have managed to gather some decent power guys, base stealers, and obviously my pitching is good, though still needs some back end starters.. Let me know your thoughts and anyone who has won with this or any pitcher/pitcher strategy..

C- R.Martin, C.Inannetta
1B - C Davis, R Howard
2B - G Beckham
3B - J Gyorko, T Plouffe
SS - I Desmond
OF - C Granderson, M Trumbo, M Bourn, J Willingham, B Revere
SP - S Strasburg, J Verlander, K Medlen, H Kuroda, T Hanson
RP - J Hanrahan, G Perkins

Yes, batting average is bad.. any other thoughts?
Very, very tough to pull off SP/SP start
Power looks okay. Speed a bit short
Top 3 SP...brilliant
Need to see how the rest of your team is assembled

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Post by BK METS » Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:20 pm

Gekko wrote:
BK METS wrote:I was hoping for some feedback as to anyone who has won a league, in the past, starting with pitcher/pitcher in the first two rounds. I did it for the first time in the $375 Mia (Rog's daughter) DC and I am finding it to be very interesting. I have had to punt BA, but in the $375 DC, paying the same to the top 3, I think punting one category is still a winning strategy. We have managed to make it into the 20th round in 3 days.. Very tough competition... I have managed to gather some decent power guys, base stealers, and obviously my pitching is good, though still needs some back end starters.. Let me know your thoughts and anyone who has won with this or any pitcher/pitcher strategy..

C- R.Martin, C.Inannetta
1B - C Davis, R Howard
2B - G Beckham
3B - J Gyorko, T Plouffe
SS - I Desmond
OF - C Granderson, M Trumbo, M Bourn, J Willingham, B Revere
SP - S Strasburg, J Verlander, K Medlen, H Kuroda, T Hanson
RP - J Hanrahan, G Perkins

Yes, batting average is bad.. any other thoughts?
Very, very tough to pull off SP/SP start
Power looks okay. Speed a bit short
Top 3 SP...brilliant
Need to see how the rest of your team is assembled
Yeah, I hear ya Mark. It was going to be tough to win this league, no matter what strategy I took, so I figured I would switch it up for the "top 3" league. I was going Strasburg in the first at 11, but when Verlander was available in the 2nd, I decided to change it up. Will probably never do it again, but with guys like Jupinka, Edelman, and KJ, I had to do something different.....

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Post by rockitsauce » Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:58 pm

Obviously you can't punt anyting in the main, a stand-alone lge is a diff. story. I watched a guy go the SP route in a Super in Vegas last yr. He went w/ stud SP & speed/good ave. guys. He told me that you're almost always guaranteed $ utilizing this plan. He did finish in the $ (3rd place in this particular Super).

Who told me this ?

Just your defending CHAMP, Dave Potts.
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Re: Starting a draft with Pitcher/Pitcher

Post by Captain Hook » Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:49 am

rockitsauce wrote:Obviously you can't punt anyting in the main, a stand-alone lge is a diff. story. I watched a guy go the SP route in a Super in Vegas last yr. He went w/ stud SP & speed/good ave. guys. He told me that you're almost always guaranteed $ utilizing this plan. He did finish in the $ (3rd place in this particular Super).

Who told me this ?

Just your defending CHAMP, Dave Potts.

The SWEENEY plan

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Re: Starting a draft with Pitcher/Pitcher

Post by Hells Satans » Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:56 am

rockitsauce wrote:Obviously you can't punt anyting in the main, a stand-alone lge is a diff. story. I watched a guy go the SP route in a Super in Vegas last yr. He went w/ stud SP & speed/good ave. guys. He told me that you're almost always guaranteed $ utilizing this plan. He did finish in the $ (3rd place in this particular Super).

Who told me this ?

Just your defending CHAMP, Dave Potts.

Agree with this. If you're going to go SP/SP, you have to keep going all-in on SP and RP and ensure yourself 60+ pitching points. You'll never catch up on HR/RBI, so you're better off trying to capture BA/SB/R, which are generally undervalued in comparison.

In a strong league with good players, you can do well like this (although hard to win the league) since points are usually distributed more equally (generalizing here). In a league with weak players, it's going to take more points to finish in the money, which makes this a riskier strategy

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Re: Starting a draft with Pitcher/Pitcher

Post by hot and cold » Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:12 am

When are you going to find any league in the NFBC that has weak players .Not going to happen .

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Re: Starting a draft with Pitcher/Pitcher

Post by hot and cold » Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:16 am

rockitsauce wrote:Obviously you can't punt anyting in the main, a stand-alone lge is a diff. story. I watched a guy go the SP route in a Super in Vegas last yr. He went w/ stud SP & speed/good ave. guys. He told me that you're almost always guaranteed $ utilizing this plan. He did finish in the $ (3rd place in this particular Super).

Who told me this ?

Just your defending CHAMP, Dave Potts.
If you are going to do this where are your GOOD AVE GUYS . You are already not following the plan !!!

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Re: Starting a draft with Pitcher/Pitcher

Post by BK METS » Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:55 am

Hells Satans wrote:
rockitsauce wrote:Obviously you can't punt anyting in the main, a stand-alone lge is a diff. story. I watched a guy go the SP route in a Super in Vegas last yr. He went w/ stud SP & speed/good ave. guys. He told me that you're almost always guaranteed $ utilizing this plan. He did finish in the $ (3rd place in this particular Super).

Who told me this ?

Just your defending CHAMP, Dave Potts.

Agree with this. If you're going to go SP/SP, you have to keep going all-in on SP and RP and ensure yourself 60+ pitching points. You'll never catch up on HR/RBI, so you're better off trying to capture BA/SB/R, which are generally undervalued in comparison.

In a strong league with good players, you can do well like this (although hard to win the league) since points are usually distributed more equally (generalizing here). In a league with weak players, it's going to take more points to finish in the money, which makes this a riskier strategy
I wasn't going for the BA/SB/R plan. I only punted batting average and pounded on power and speed guys, regardless of BA, so having done that, I don't believe I need perfect pitching scores. The power I have assembled projects to be 5th in the league at this point in HR/RBIS, steals projects 3rd, runs projects 8th. Pitching cats project 62 points right now. Total points 106. Right now, in the 25th round (added Arroyo, Volquez, Duda, K Johnson, Pennington) my team projects to finish 2nd barely ahead of 3rd place. Which is all I need to do, since top 3 all pays the same. I think my strategy has a little more flexibility than the BA/SB/R/mega pitching strategy, but I guess we will see. My top 4 pitchers are pretty darn good. If I can squeeze in another guy who gets me some saves, and Gyorko somehow does in the majors, 80% of what he did in the minors, I will be in pretty good shape. Thanks for the input on the SP/SP start from the champ! Helpful to know that others have taken this approach and cashed in something. :D :D

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