$$$ Jose Fernandez $$$

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$$$ Jose Fernandez $$$

Post by PGromek » Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:09 pm

he's the big money guy this week

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Post by BK METS » Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:14 pm

PGromek wrote:he's the big money guy this week
Probably one of the biggest ever...

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Re: $$$ Jose Fernandez $$$

Post by Red Sox Nation- » Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:15 pm

250-500?

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Post by BK METS » Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:17 pm

Red Sox Nation- wrote:250-500?
Pretty much what I bid on him in various leagues.. probably not enough

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Re: $$$ Jose Fernandez $$$

Post by Ando » Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:17 pm

The boards were quiet today. I figured everyone had their calculators out for this guy. :lol:
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Post by Glenneration X » Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:18 pm

Considering how early in the year it is with everyone still flush with FAAB cash, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Zach Britton size bids of a couple years back. Seems like a similar dynamic. Big prospect, big hype, big success in first couple starts.....

Sorry to bring back bad memories for any Britton bidders from days gone by. Hopefully this will result differently for the Fernandez winners.

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Post by Jeff Erickson » Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:31 pm

Glenneration X wrote:Considering how early in the year it is with everyone still flush with FAAB cash, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Zach Britton size bids of a couple years back. Seems like a similar dynamic. Big prospect, big hype, big success in first couple starts.....

Sorry to bring back bad memories for any Britton bidders from days gone by. Hopefully this will result differently for the Fernandez winners.
Good comp. I was thinking Max Scherzer in his rookie season with the Diamondbacks.
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Re: $$$ Jose Fernandez $$$

Post by Money » Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:32 pm

Red Sox Nation- wrote:250-500?
That's insane!!
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Post by Hells Satans » Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:34 pm

Money wrote:
Red Sox Nation- wrote:250-500?
That's insane!!
There's no 15 team league where he will go for less than 250

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Post by Raskol » Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:36 pm

I bid 402 and he went for 403.... :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
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Post by Hells Satans » Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:36 pm

679 and 421 in XII

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Post by PGromek » Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:37 pm

someone got him for $923 in a Main


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Post by Hells Satans » Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:37 pm

679, 521, 403 (me) in MEs

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Post by Hells Satans » Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:39 pm

Didnt go for less than 400 in any of my leagues. About right.

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Re: $$$ Jose Fernandez $$$

Post by rockitsauce » Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:47 pm

Jeff Erickson wrote:
Good comp. I was thinking Max Scherzer in his rookie season with the Diamondbacks.

Scherzer is the guy I immediately thought of. Mad Max went way over $500, over $600 in many lge's then.

Alas, those of us in LV2 had no shot at young Jose, one very astute (and Nostradamic :twisted: ) owner nabbed him in the 29th rd.
Always be closing.

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Re: $$$ Jose Fernandez $$$

Post by Glenneration X » Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:57 pm

Jeff Erickson wrote:
Glenneration X wrote:Considering how early in the year it is with everyone still flush with FAAB cash, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Zach Britton size bids of a couple years back. Seems like a similar dynamic. Big prospect, big hype, big success in first couple starts.....

Sorry to bring back bad memories for any Britton bidders from days gone by. Hopefully this will result differently for the Fernandez winners.
Good comp. I was thinking Max Scherzer in his rookie season with the Diamondbacks.
Whether Scherzer or Britton, neither comp predicts a great ROI. Of course there is Gooden.
Max, Zach, or Doc, I guess time will tell which of these Jose turns out to be.

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Post by Hells Satans » Sun Apr 14, 2013 7:00 pm

Glenneration X wrote:
Jeff Erickson wrote:
Glenneration X wrote:Considering how early in the year it is with everyone still flush with FAAB cash, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Zach Britton size bids of a couple years back. Seems like a similar dynamic. Big prospect, big hype, big success in first couple starts.....

Sorry to bring back bad memories for any Britton bidders from days gone by. Hopefully this will result differently for the Fernandez winners.
Good comp. I was thinking Max Scherzer in his rookie season with the Diamondbacks.
Whether Scherzer or Britton, neither comp predicts a great ROI. Of course there is Gooden.
Max, Zach, or Doc, I guess time will tell which of these Jose turns out to be.
I think it depends on what you need. I think he's a lock for a very good ERA and WHIP. Good K numbers (although limited by innings no doubt). 8-9 wins tops. Probably not worth what he went for, but since I am just going to waste the FAAB money anyway. Unfortunately 350ish was not enough

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Post by poopytooth » Sun Apr 14, 2013 7:03 pm

I lowered bids last hour because Miami won't provide much run support.
Still...could use the ERA, K's and Whip...sort of regretting it now.
We'll see what happens. I think he will reward his owners.

Congrats to whoever grabbed him in Main. I looked at him is rd 48 and on in a Draft Champion League and passed on him thinking Miami wouldn't bring him up...

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Post by COZ » Sun Apr 14, 2013 7:09 pm

$700 in $1000 Satellite. I bid $299 and was nervous about winning. Wow.

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Re: $$$ Jose Fernandez $$$

Post by Outlaw » Sun Apr 14, 2013 7:17 pm

750 and 775 in 2 of my leagues...

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Re: $$$ Jose Fernandez $$$

Post by Brock » Sun Apr 14, 2013 7:29 pm

That's a lot of money for a 20 year old rookie with no offense behind him. Probably will limit his innings and for the life of me I can't understand why they promoted him and started the clock. Maybe he'll sell some tickets but if he struggles at some point which is very likely he might go back down. Time will tell. Good luck to all the big spenders who got him.

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Post by Glenneration X » Sun Apr 14, 2013 7:34 pm

Hells Satans wrote:
I think it depends on what you need. I think he's a lock for a very good ERA and WHIP. Good K numbers (although limited by innings no doubt). 8-9 wins tops. Probably not worth what he went for, but since I am just going to waste the FAAB money anyway. Unfortunately 350ish was not enough
The problem with someone like Fernandez is the lack of enough info or data due to his limited professional experience and that all of that limited experience was at a very low level. His numbers say he dominated at that level however. Still, many have in the past that didn't once they made it to the bigs.

I wanted to put the eye test on Fernandez, so I watched both his games. He brings a lot of positives. It appears he has three plus pitches and adds to that with poise beyond his years. He has talent, that's a given. Strasburg talent, I don't believe so, but real talent nonetheless.

The problem is the two games he pitched, he pitched against flawed offenses (yes, even my Mets). He also only made it around the lineup twice in both. There's no book on him yet. We'll see how he holds up once the book is out.

There are other obvious negatives. The Marlins will likely not support him, neither offensively, nor more importantly defensively. The defensive issues may affect your statement of him being a guaranteed ERA and WHIP lock. Even if he is, he's 150-170 innings tops, a dozen which have been used already, which along with the Marlins ineptitude will almost assuredly affect the remaining two categories to which he can contribute.

Is he worth the $400-900 bids he got today? We'll see. What does he have to do to be worth that? What's the numbers he has to reach? Does he get there?

All that said, I bid on him in every one of my leagues. However I won him nowhere.

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Post by King of Queens » Sun Apr 14, 2013 7:37 pm

Jose Fernandez vs. Tony Cingrani this Thursday night.

Or will you be watching the American Idol results show? :geek:

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Post by Raskol » Sun Apr 14, 2013 7:42 pm

King of Queens wrote:Jose Fernandez vs. Tony Cingrani this Thursday night.

Or will you be watching the American Idol results show? :geek:
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Post by Glenneration X » Sun Apr 14, 2013 7:45 pm

King of Queens wrote:Jose Fernandez vs. Tony Cingrani this Thursday night.

Or will you be watching the American Idol results show? :geek:
Now Cingrani, there's someone who's worth $900 bids. :D

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