Top 60 ADP- Gold or Bust?
Top 60 ADP- Gold or Bust?
Looking at the top 60 in ADP and 1/2 of them are complete washouts or probably going to be washouts, especially relative to where they were drafted and what owners needed from them. Seems slots 30-60 are really stinking it up this year.
Any of these under achievers have a chance of turning it around?
Just my opinion though...
#1 Miguel Cabrera (3B, Det)
#2 Mike Trout (CF, LAA)
#3 Ryan Braun (LF, Mil)
#4 Robinson Cano (2B, NYY)
#5 Matt Kemp (CF, LAD) BUST
#6 Andrew McCutchen (CF, Pit)
#7 Joey Votto (1B, Cin)
#8 Albert Pujols (1B, LAA) Jury's OUT
#9 Carlos Gonzalez (LF, Col)
#10 Prince Fielder (1B, Det)
#11 Troy Tulowitzki (SS, Col)
#12 Giancarlo Stanton (RF, Mia) BUST
#13 Justin Verlander (SP, Det)
#14 Stephen Strasburg (SP Jury's OUT
#15 Clayton Kershaw (SP, LAD)
#16 Josh Hamilton (RF, LAA) BUST
#17 Buster Posey (C, SF)
#18 Jose Bautista (RF, Tor)
#19 Justin Upton (LF, Atl)
#20 Bryce Harper (LF, Was)
#21 Evan Longoria (3B, TB)
#22 Jose Reyes (SS, Tor) BUST
#23 Adrian Beltre (3B, Tex)
#24 Jason Heyward (RF, Atl) BUST
#25 Dustin Pedroia (2B, Bos)
#26 David Wright (3B, NYM)
#27 David Price (SP, TB) Jury's OUT- Leaning BUST
#28 Edwin Encarnacion (1B, Tor)
#29 Adam Jones (CF, Bal)
#30 Ian Kinsler (2B, Tex) Jury's OUT
#31 Adrian Gonzalez (1B, LAD) Jury's OUT
#32 Yoenis Cespedes (CF, Oak) Jury's OUT- Leaning BUST
#33 Ryan Zimmerman (3B, Was) Jury's OUT
#34 Starlin Castro (SS, ChC) Jury's OUT- Leaning BUST
#35 Jacoby Ellsbury (CF, Bos) Jury's OUT- Leaning BUST
#36 Felix Hernandez (SP, Sea)
#37 Cole Hamels (SP, Phi) BUST
#38 Jay Bruce (RF, Cin) Jury's OUT
#39 B.J. Upton (CF, Atl) BUST
#40 Matt Cain (SP, SF) Jury's OUT
#41 Paul Goldschmidt (1B, Ari)
#42 Billy Butler (DH, KC) BUST
#43 Ian Desmond (SS, Was) Jury's OUT
#44 Cliff Lee (SP, Phi) Jury's OUT
#45 Matt Holliday (LF, StL)
#46 Craig Kimbrel (MR, Atl)
#47 Allen Craig (1B, StL)
#48 Ben Zobrist (2B, TB) Jury's OUT
#49 Aramis Ramirez (3B, Mil) Jury's OUT
#50 Gio Gonzalez (SP, Was) Jury's OUT
#51 Yu Darvish (SP, Tex)
#52 Jered Weaver (SP, LAA) Jury's OUT
#53 Joe Mauer (C, Min)
#54 Madison Bumgarner (SP, SF)
#55 Aaron Hill (2B, Ari) BUST
#56 Jason Kipnis (2B, Cle) Jury's OUT
#57 Jimmy Rollins (SS, Phi) BUST
#58 Adam Wainwright (SP, StL)
#59 Zack Greinke (SP, LAD) Jury's OUT
#60 Brandon Phillips (2B, Cin)
Any of these under achievers have a chance of turning it around?
Just my opinion though...
#1 Miguel Cabrera (3B, Det)
#2 Mike Trout (CF, LAA)
#3 Ryan Braun (LF, Mil)
#4 Robinson Cano (2B, NYY)
#5 Matt Kemp (CF, LAD) BUST
#6 Andrew McCutchen (CF, Pit)
#7 Joey Votto (1B, Cin)
#8 Albert Pujols (1B, LAA) Jury's OUT
#9 Carlos Gonzalez (LF, Col)
#10 Prince Fielder (1B, Det)
#11 Troy Tulowitzki (SS, Col)
#12 Giancarlo Stanton (RF, Mia) BUST
#13 Justin Verlander (SP, Det)
#14 Stephen Strasburg (SP Jury's OUT
#15 Clayton Kershaw (SP, LAD)
#16 Josh Hamilton (RF, LAA) BUST
#17 Buster Posey (C, SF)
#18 Jose Bautista (RF, Tor)
#19 Justin Upton (LF, Atl)
#20 Bryce Harper (LF, Was)
#21 Evan Longoria (3B, TB)
#22 Jose Reyes (SS, Tor) BUST
#23 Adrian Beltre (3B, Tex)
#24 Jason Heyward (RF, Atl) BUST
#25 Dustin Pedroia (2B, Bos)
#26 David Wright (3B, NYM)
#27 David Price (SP, TB) Jury's OUT- Leaning BUST
#28 Edwin Encarnacion (1B, Tor)
#29 Adam Jones (CF, Bal)
#30 Ian Kinsler (2B, Tex) Jury's OUT
#31 Adrian Gonzalez (1B, LAD) Jury's OUT
#32 Yoenis Cespedes (CF, Oak) Jury's OUT- Leaning BUST
#33 Ryan Zimmerman (3B, Was) Jury's OUT
#34 Starlin Castro (SS, ChC) Jury's OUT- Leaning BUST
#35 Jacoby Ellsbury (CF, Bos) Jury's OUT- Leaning BUST
#36 Felix Hernandez (SP, Sea)
#37 Cole Hamels (SP, Phi) BUST
#38 Jay Bruce (RF, Cin) Jury's OUT
#39 B.J. Upton (CF, Atl) BUST
#40 Matt Cain (SP, SF) Jury's OUT
#41 Paul Goldschmidt (1B, Ari)
#42 Billy Butler (DH, KC) BUST
#43 Ian Desmond (SS, Was) Jury's OUT
#44 Cliff Lee (SP, Phi) Jury's OUT
#45 Matt Holliday (LF, StL)
#46 Craig Kimbrel (MR, Atl)
#47 Allen Craig (1B, StL)
#48 Ben Zobrist (2B, TB) Jury's OUT
#49 Aramis Ramirez (3B, Mil) Jury's OUT
#50 Gio Gonzalez (SP, Was) Jury's OUT
#51 Yu Darvish (SP, Tex)
#52 Jered Weaver (SP, LAA) Jury's OUT
#53 Joe Mauer (C, Min)
#54 Madison Bumgarner (SP, SF)
#55 Aaron Hill (2B, Ari) BUST
#56 Jason Kipnis (2B, Cle) Jury's OUT
#57 Jimmy Rollins (SS, Phi) BUST
#58 Adam Wainwright (SP, StL)
#59 Zack Greinke (SP, LAD) Jury's OUT
#60 Brandon Phillips (2B, Cin)
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Re: Top 60 ADP- Gold or Bust?
Cliff Lee has been awful.
Re: Top 60 ADP- Gold or Bust?
6-2 with a 2.34 ERA - putridHells Satans wrote:Cliff Lee has been awful.
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Re: Top 60 ADP- Gold or Bust?
Outlaw wrote:Looking at the top 60 in ADP and 1/2 of them are complete washouts or probably going to be washouts, especially relative to where they were drafted and what owners needed from them. Seems slots 30-60 are really stinking it up this year.
Any of these under achievers have a chance of turning it around?
Just my opinion though...
#1 Miguel Cabrera (3B, Det)
#2 Mike Trout (CF, LAA)
#3 Ryan Braun (LF, Mil)
#4 Robinson Cano (2B, NYY)
#5 Matt Kemp (CF, LAD) BUST
#6 Andrew McCutchen (CF, Pit)
#7 Joey Votto (1B, Cin)
#8 Albert Pujols (1B, LAA) Jury's OUT
#9 Carlos Gonzalez (LF, Col)
#10 Prince Fielder (1B, Det)
#11 Troy Tulowitzki (SS, Col)
#12 Giancarlo Stanton (RF, Mia) BUST
#13 Justin Verlander (SP, Det)
#14 Stephen Strasburg (SP Jury's OUT
#15 Clayton Kershaw (SP, LAD)
#16 Josh Hamilton (RF, LAA) BUST
#17 Buster Posey (C, SF)
#18 Jose Bautista (RF, Tor)
#19 Justin Upton (LF, Atl)
#20 Bryce Harper (LF, Was)
#21 Evan Longoria (3B, TB)
#22 Jose Reyes (SS, Tor) BUST
#23 Adrian Beltre (3B, Tex)
#24 Jason Heyward (RF, Atl) BUST
#25 Dustin Pedroia (2B, Bos)
#26 David Wright (3B, NYM)
#27 David Price (SP, TB) Jury's OUT- Leaning BUST
#28 Edwin Encarnacion (1B, Tor)
#29 Adam Jones (CF, Bal)
#30 Ian Kinsler (2B, Tex) Jury's OUT
#31 Adrian Gonzalez (1B, LAD) Jury's OUT
#32 Yoenis Cespedes (CF, Oak) Jury's OUT- Leaning BUST
#33 Ryan Zimmerman (3B, Was) Jury's OUT
#34 Starlin Castro (SS, ChC) Jury's OUT- Leaning BUST
#35 Jacoby Ellsbury (CF, Bos) Jury's OUT- Leaning BUST
#36 Felix Hernandez (SP, Sea)
#37 Cole Hamels (SP, Phi) BUST
#38 Jay Bruce (RF, Cin) Jury's OUT
#39 B.J. Upton (CF, Atl) BUST
#40 Matt Cain (SP, SF) Jury's OUT
#41 Paul Goldschmidt (1B, Ari)
#42 Billy Butler (DH, KC) BUST
#43 Ian Desmond (SS, Was) Jury's OUT
#44 Cliff Lee (SP, Phi) Jury's OUT
#45 Matt Holliday (LF, StL)
#46 Craig Kimbrel (MR, Atl)
#47 Allen Craig (1B, StL)
#48 Ben Zobrist (2B, TB) Jury's OUT
#49 Aramis Ramirez (3B, Mil) Jury's OUT
#50 Gio Gonzalez (SP, Was) Jury's OUT
#51 Yu Darvish (SP, Tex)
#52 Jered Weaver (SP, LAA) Jury's OUT
#53 Joe Mauer (C, Min)
#54 Madison Bumgarner (SP, SF)
#55 Aaron Hill (2B, Ari) BUST
#56 Jason Kipnis (2B, Cle) Jury's OUT
#57 Jimmy Rollins (SS, Phi) BUST
#58 Adam Wainwright (SP, StL)
#59 Zack Greinke (SP, LAD) Jury's OUT
#60 Brandon Phillips (2B, Cin)
Actually, I think we collectively did pretty well in the first two rounds (Top 30). Only five clear busts out of 30 by your count, and some are or may be injury related. After Round 2, however, things get much more shaky.
Every now and then, if I really want to torture myself, I'll go back and look at the original draft boards for some of my leagues. Yep, that was some pick grabbing Eric Hosmer ahead of Chris Davis.
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Re: Top 60 ADP- Gold or Bust?
If unlucky means "Bust", I will agree on Hamels. One win despite giving up three earned runs or less in eight of his last nine games, 91.3% strike out rate, less than a hit per IP, hasn't given up a HR on the road this year yet. First two games were brutal but has a 3.24 ERA and a 1.131 WHIP since.
Kind of this year's version of Cliff Lee from last year.
Kind of this year's version of Cliff Lee from last year.
Baseball is a slow, boring, complex, cerebral game that doesn't lend itself to histrionics. You 'take in' a baseball game, something odd to say about a football or basketball game, with the clock running and the bodies flying.
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Re: Top 60 ADP- Gold or Bust?
If the jury is out on Ellsbury then I'd have to say the jury is out on McCutcheon too.
Playing better now but still a power shortage for someone in the top 10 ADP.
Keeping my fingers crossed McCutch will have a hot streak and get back to 2012 power levels soon.
Playing better now but still a power shortage for someone in the top 10 ADP.
Keeping my fingers crossed McCutch will have a hot streak and get back to 2012 power levels soon.
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Re: Top 60 ADP- Gold or Bust?
Deadheadz wrote:If the jury is out on Ellsbury then I'd have to say the jury is out on McCutcheon too.
Playing better now but still a power shortage for someone in the top 10 ADP.
Keeping my fingers crossed McCutch will have a hot streak and get back to 2012 power levels soon.
I thought about sending him to the jury...
Re: Top 60 ADP- Gold or Bust?
Come again?Edwards Kings wrote:If unlucky means "Bust", I will agree on Hamels. One win despite giving up three earned runs or less in eight of his last nine games, 91.3% strike out rate, less than a hit per IP, hasn't given up a HR on the road this year yet. First two games were brutal but has a 3.24 ERA and a 1.131 WHIP since.
Kind of this year's version of Cliff Lee from last year.
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Wait! I never had the perfect draft!
Wait! I never had the perfect draft!
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Re: Top 60 ADP- Gold or Bust?
oops...me and my big mouth...DOUGHBOYS wrote:Come again?Edwards Kings wrote:If unlucky means "Bust", I will agree on Hamels. One win despite giving up three earned runs or less in eight of his last nine games, 91.3% strike out rate, less than a hit per IP, hasn't given up a HR on the road this year yet. First two games were brutal but has a 3.24 ERA and a 1.131 WHIP since.
Kind of this year's version of Cliff Lee from last year.
Baseball is a slow, boring, complex, cerebral game that doesn't lend itself to histrionics. You 'take in' a baseball game, something odd to say about a football or basketball game, with the clock running and the bodies flying.
Charles Krauthammer
Charles Krauthammer