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We are in the midst of the dog days of baseball season. It's about this time that I start thinking about the PreMature E-Draftulation League that starts with the last pitch of this season. I'm thinking the top 10 goes something like this:

Cabrera
Trout
CarGo
CDavis
Cano
Votto
Tulo
Harper
Goldschmidt
Fielder

My question is this:
In which round will some of the 'break out' players be drafted?
Yasiel Puig
Dominick Brown
Matt Harvey
Patrick Corbin
Jean Segura
Carlos Gomez
Starling Marte

It's tough, and I'm glad we have the rest of the summer to help answer these questions.
Still, I'll give it my best shot for where these guys go if the draft were today.....
Then, you can fire away with your thoughts....
Especially you PreMature Drafters.......

Puig:
Trout went from zero to 60 in nothing flat or in fantasy terms, zero drafted to first on boards. As of now, I think Puig falls a little short of Trout.
Still, I could see him going anywhere from the bottom of the first round to an anxious Puig farmer taking him with the third overall pick.

Brown:
Brown is finally realizing the talent and is staying healthy to be a boon for his owners. Solid second rounder

Harvey:
Pitchers are tough. Especially Harvey in that he pitches for a gawdawful team, both offensively and defensively. Some like to over draft pitchers, some like to under draft them.
Consistently though, I see Harvey going in the second round in most drafts.

Corbin:
Corbin will get more Wins than Harvey, less strike outs. Harvey is considered the better pitcher, Corbin luckier.
That trend continues and Corbin is waited on and taken in the fifth round.

Segura:
His position helps propel him up draft boards. Well, that and his talent.
Mid or late second round.

Gomez:
I think he'll sneak into some first rounds and mostly go in the second round.
No matter what the PED findings, he may be drafted ahead of Braun.

Marte:
Marte is in the same position as Gomez was coming into this year. His stock will rise as 'Live' drafts get closer.
Solid third rounder who will find his way into the second round.

So, let me have it.....
How far off base am I?
Where do you think they go?

Gomez:
I think he'll sneak into some first rounds and mostly go in the second round.
No matter what the PED findings, he may be drafted ahead of Braun.

Tom and Greg just had heart attacks at the same time!!! We are both laying here on our final breaths. Someone call two large ambulances!!

Segura:
His position helps propel him up draft boards. Well, that and his talent.
Mid or late second round.

I think the new season will find this guy at the top of the SS list being drafted in the first round.

Money wrote:Segura:
His position helps propel him up draft boards. Well, that and his talent.
Mid or late second round.

I think the new season will find this guy at the top of the SS list being drafted in the first round.

I am with Joe on this one. One more Tulo injury and Segura is the first SS off the board.

Puig? Top Four.

Wow, Milwaukee has three possible first round picks next year.....And they are just horrible as a team.

Puig - Goes in the first round

Greg Ambrosius wrote:Gomez:
I think he'll sneak into some first rounds and mostly go in the second round.
No matter what the PED findings, he may be drafted ahead of Braun.

Tom and Greg just had heart attacks at the same time!!! We are both laying here on our final breaths. Someone call two large ambulances!!

As is now, I think an NFBC draft would have you guys rolling.
If you two thought it unfair that Braun dropped to fourth overall because of rumors, now, a combination of rumors/poor performance/injury would probably have Braun as a late first rounder at best.

I Cannot see Tulo going top 10. Too much risk and another year older. I think Desmond will be a 1st rounder if he continues his current pace.

I think the following players can all make the jump to top 10 with an even stronger 2nd half than their first very good 1st half's. Kipnis, Encarnrcion, Bruce, Jones, Posey, Bruce, Marte, Machado and 1 pitcher- Scherzer.

DOUGHBOYS wrote:Wow, Milwaukee has three possible first round picks next year.....And they are just horrible as a team.

That's because the first pitcher off the board from Milwaukee will be in Round 30!! This is an organization that has never been able to develop pitchers and all these prospects they keep talking about never pan out. Now that Gallardo has lost his ability to throw strikes, it's even worse.

Gallardo to Arizona for Skaggs and then Skaggs will be the first Brewer pitcher drafted next year.

I can't even say the words: Carlos Gomez and First Round in the same sentence. Impossible to believe.

Greg Ambrosius wrote:

DOUGHBOYS wrote:Wow, Milwaukee has three possible first round picks next year.....And they are just horrible as a team.

I can't even say the words: Carlos Gomez and First Round in the same sentence. Impossible to believe.

It may be hard, but he's looking at a 25/40/.310 year.
Only Trout and Kipnis can say the same.

Outlaw wrote:I Cannot see Tulo going top 10. Too much risk and another year older. I think Desmond will be a 1st rounder if he continues his current pace.

I think the following players can all make the jump to top 10 with an even stronger 2nd half than their first very good 1st half's. Kipnis, Encarnrcion, Bruce, Jones, Posey, Bruce, Marte, Machado and 1 pitcher- Scherzer.

Speaking of Desmond, he and Jay Bruce, might be the biggest snubs of the all star game (Marco Scutaro, seriously?). Puig or Freeman will get voted in as the final guy and deserving guys will not make the team. The dumb rule that every team has to have a player, is what causes this. This rule needs to be changed.

can also say J Donaldson was deserving of a spot also

DOUGHBOYS wrote:

Greg Ambrosius wrote:

DOUGHBOYS wrote:Wow, Milwaukee has three possible first round picks next year.....And they are just horrible as a team.

I can't even say the words: Carlos Gomez and First Round in the same sentence. Impossible to believe.

It may be hard, but he's looking at a 25/40/.310 year.
Only Trout and Kipnis can say the same.

Segura has a shot at 25/40/.310

Billyhaze wrote:
It may be hard, but he's looking at a 25/40/.310 year.
Only Trout and Kipnis can say the same.

Segura has a shot at 25/40/.310[/quote]


He does, but his 11 first half home runs were a surprise.
To expect even more during the second half would be asking a lot. The 'Regress' troops are out in full force on him

Give me a little help for tonight's SiriusXM show guys: We're talking about Matt Kemp's shoulder injury during our 7:45 pm ET segment and we want to talk about where he will go in 2014 drafts. This shoulder is a major concern going forward and I'm not sure if Kemp will be able to regain the strength in that shoulder again like it was before. You'd hope so, but you never know. So where does he go in 2014 drafts?

The best responses will get read on the air. Thanks for any insights.

3rd Round

knuckleheads wrote:3rd Round

Thanks for all the responses/opinions. Knuckleheads gets on the air, I guess.

I think Kemp's draft position will really depend on
a) whether he has to have surgery this year, and/or
b) how he looks in spring training next year

No one who watched him in spring training this year would have drafted him in the first round - well not without a very special rosary

Greg Ambrosius wrote:

knuckleheads wrote:3rd Round

Thanks for all the responses/opinions. Knuckleheads gets on the air, I guess.

Feel free to paraphrase what I wrote. No need to burn up the whole program reading my thoughts.

Captain Hook wrote:I think Kemp's draft position will really depend on
a) whether he has to have surgery this year, and/or
b) how he looks in spring training next year

No one who watched him in spring training this year would have drafted him in the first round - well not without a very special rosary

Too many drafts will be held before spring training for this audience. It all depends on his shoulder, but you know every off-season report is that he feels stronger, he's looking good and his workouts have been excellent. So now what? 2nd round or 3rd round or later? I agree, I think it's 3rd round to start out.

Tulowitzki was a first-rounder in most drafts this year. Jacob Ellsbury was going in the 3rd and 4th rounds and occasionally dropping lower. There are just too many outfielders who will be viewed to have a similar ceiling to Kemp, but without the injury history. Now, give Kemp a shortstop's glove and he'll go in the top ten next year, one pick behind Tulowitzki.

And frankly, I wouldn't take Tulowitzki in the first round with Captain Hook's pick. If Tulo plays 150+ games and produces at his usual rates, he's still only produces like a 3rd-round outfielder. Late second round is as early as Tulo should go. At that point, his upside and position scarcity is worth the risk. Losing your first rounder is just too damaging.

Matt Kemp will be a 'value pick'.
One of those players that hardly anybody entering a draft intends on taking, but in the third or fourth rounds, his possibilities start measuring up along other outfielders. His drafter will cry "VALUE PICK!"
While other drafters are happy that it's not THEIR 'value pick'.
We try to convince ourselves in drafting him, that Kemp used to put up number one overall numbers. Maybe he can again.
Knowing that his shoulder, most likely, will hold him back from any possibility of those numbers.
So, he'll be taken in the third or fourth round and be called a 'value pick'.
And he'll be called a value pick right up until he is not.
Opening Day.

Kemp, in my opinion, has to re commit to baseball, his questionable lifestyle and his complacency are apparent. He just does not seem focused. This shoulder should have people concerned for the simple fact that I don't think he will rehab as much as he should. I see Kemp as a late 1st RD or 2nd Rd pick next year, but one should be paying close attention to what he is doing during the offseason and how much he is dedicated to fulfilling his potential.

Billyhaze wrote:Kemp, in my opinion, has to re commit to baseball, his questionable lifestyle and his complacency are apparent. He just does not seem focused. This shoulder should have people concerned for the simple fact that I don't think he will rehab as much as he should. I see Kemp as a late 1st RD or 2nd Rd pick next year, but one should be paying close attention to what he is doing during the offseason and how much he is dedicated to fulfilling his potential.

I only had one chance to draft Kemp and I thought long and hard. It was the Super and I had already decided to pass on Braun, it came down to Kemp or Cano. I knew I'd take Cano even though I wished I could trade down my spot in the draft. I thought about this Doughy guy as he wasn't fond of Cano, and believe it or not there are certain players that way heavily on my mind. It's worked out so far.

I think the impending PED crap will blow up that decision as well. He's the only guy I'm worried about, but I believe there will be surprises. I just wish they'd wait until the end of the season and start with the suspensions next year.