STATS is really running this????

Walla Walla · Post by **Walla Walla** » Sat May 27, 2006 5:17 am

The DL rule is a bust! Stats can't adjust thier lineup pages to take more than one change during the week? When this was pushed it sounded like it was no big deal. But it has turned out to be the worst thing I've ever seen. Viper a long time player tries to make a change than change it back. Stats won't let it happen. Greg says thats the way its set up. Where in the rules does it say that? It doesn't of course because Greg didn't realize Stats couldn't deal with the DL rule. But Greg won't say anything bad about Stats. Stats allowed Greg the licence into the MLB. This really sucks for us who payed for a top run contest.

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Sat May 27, 2006 5:54 am

You're not allowed to take guys out of your lineup who aren't on the DL, therefore it makes sense that you can't change it back. Nevertheless, it's good to know that one should be cautious when making changes. I'll remember that if the day ever comes that I actually get some use out of the DL rule.

[ May 27, 2006, 11:54 AM: Message edited by: bjoak ]

CC's Desperados · Post by **CC's Desperados** » Sat May 27, 2006 5:58 am

John...this is where it says it in the rules. If you have a player that goes on the DL, you can remove him and replace with a heathy player on Friday. Now when you replace the player, the DL player is now on the bench. So now if you look at your line-up, and you read the rules where is the DL player.....on your bench...So you want to replace a DL player then replace a heathy player with a DL player so you can then replace him with another heathy player. The problem is with the owner not stats. It is a one shot deal. If you make a mistake, you obviously didn't look at your line-up before you hit the summit button.

It is too bad real baseball doesn't run their transactions to help us play our little game.

viper · Post by **viper** » Sat May 27, 2006 10:30 am

It wasn't me that had that problem. I understood the way the rule worked from the start - after asking a bunch of earlier questions. I haven't had a problem yet with the Friday DL rule. I do generally wait until Friday AM to make my DL-related moves although I activated Sheffield on Tuesday this week after Stewart (I think) officially was put on the DL. You must be thinking of another.

As so far as the DL rules goes, I was initially for it but am changing my mind. It is not that is does not have merit but there have been a few too many quirks and problems. It makes me think it was a solution to one problem that created just as many other concerns.

eddiejag · Post by **eddiejag** » Sun May 28, 2006 1:26 am

I dont have a promblem with this rule , a matter of fact i like it.Ive already had to use it a couple times , one time it really paid off. I had to sit kyle davies , and replaced him with fernando rodney, well he got 2 wins that weekend , what turned out a bad thing , actually turned for the better.People just dont like change, i really dont thing this rule is a big deal, and am suprised by how many people dont like it.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Sun May 28, 2006 3:15 am

Originally posted by Walla Walla:

Stats allowed Greg the licence into the MLB. What does this mean John? I don't remember you or anyone from STATS being involved with me in our negotiations for a baseball license this year. I feel your hatred towards our stats provider, but please speak the facts when you choose to post about this subject.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Sun May 28, 2006 3:20 am

Originally posted by eddiejag:

I dont have a promblem with this rule , a matter of fact i like it.Ive already had to use it a couple times , one time it really paid off. I had to sit kyle davies , and replaced him with fernando rodney, well he got 2 wins that weekend , what turned out a bad thing , actually turned for the better.People just dont like change, i really dont thing this rule is a big deal, and am suprised by how many people dont like it. Each week we have had more than 100 transactions on Friday among the 35 leagues we're running. This week guys like Cole Hamels went on the DL on Wednesday and teams were able to make lineup changes to take advantage of that. I think most people now understand how this rule works and at season's end I will poll the participants to see if they want to keep the mid-week DL rule in or not. Personally, I'll be happy with it either way, but I think it's worked fine recently and most people have benefitted from it. STATS is doing exactly what I asked them to do with this rule and any early season confusion should be blamed on me, not STATS.

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Sun May 28, 2006 7:44 am

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius: any early season confusion should be blamed on me, not STATS. [/QB]I blame it on those with a lack of common sense. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Let's see now... I make my DL change, and then I want to change an active player. Yeah, that's the ticket. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Spyhunter · Post by **Spyhunter** » Sun May 28, 2006 11:59 am

Get over it - it is a great rule and many people are using it.

The issues discussed have been discussed back in week 1. A newsletter went out discussing this...

Spy

Walla Walla · Post by **Walla Walla** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 5:58 pm

Greg, I do believe Stats got you the license for last year though. I must be missing something if you really think that Stats is the best you can do. I know your busy putting football rags together and such. But come on already Stats???

Tom Kessenich · Post by **Tom Kessenich** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 6:15 pm

Originally posted by Walla Walla:

Greg, I do believe Stats got you the license for last year though. John, as Greg has explained STATS has nothing to do with our event getting a license from MLB. They are two entirely different sets of negotiations.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 2:14 am

Originally posted by Walla Walla:

Greg, I do believe Stats got you the license for last year though. I must be missing something if you really think that Stats is the best you can do. I know your busy putting football rags together and such. But come on already Stats???

John, we were licensed by the MLBPA in 2004 and by MLB Advanced Media the last two years. STATS has been our back-end provider the last three years, but the two aren't related.

I'm sure there are better stat services out there and I assume you are using them in your other leagues. I guess I'm the fool here. But they've been an ideal partner for me and I look forward to working with them in 2007 as well. In many ways, without STATS' support there wouldn't be an NFBC, so move on already John. Just take care of your teams, get them in the money and then you can cash the big check and be done with STATS forever.

Enjoy the football rags when you get them in the mail and good luck in all your football leagues this year.

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 5:33 am

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

quote:Originally posted by Walla Walla:

Greg, I do believe Stats got you the license for last year though. I must be missing something if you really think that Stats is the best you can do. I know your busy putting football rags together and such. But come on already Stats???

John, we were licensed by the MLBPA in 2004 and by MLB Advanced Media the last two years. STATS has been our back-end provider the last three years, but the two aren't related.

I'm sure there are better stat services out there and I assume you are using them in your other leagues. I guess I'm the fool here. But they've been an ideal partner for me and I look forward to working with them in 2007 as well. In many ways, without STATS' support there wouldn't be an NFBC, so move on already John. Just take care of your teams, get them in the money and then you can cash the big check and be done with STATS forever.

Enjoy the football rags when you get them in the mail and good luck in all your football leagues this year. [/QUOTE]Greg,

Terrible messenger- BUT I think a lot of us are really, really frustrated with Stats at this point. This pitching thing is so basic and they have never gotten it right. My experience was give us examples which turned in to it must be your computer despite the fact that it happens with every computer I do it from.

Anyone on board with me here, who can state their concerns in a coherent manner lacking threats of leaving or suggesting a much grander scheme as to why they stick with Stats. More importantly any suggestions on who does a better job so that avenue can at least be explored.

Walla Walla · Post by **Walla Walla** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 6:43 am

Terrible messenger - A customer for 3 NFBC and 2 NFFC. Yep just terrible.

Buster · Post by **Buster** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 6:57 pm

For what it is worth, the live scoring pitching is wrong yet again. I have a hard time understanding why STATS is about the only company that cannot do updated live standings, but I've learned to live with that. One would think that at least their live scoring would include all the hitters and the pitchers.

Wait, if one would think that, well then one would be wrong.

Would it be possible for someone to contact STATS and have them fix this rather annoying problem?

From the prior posts, I know that it is not only me that is having this problem, and I have it at my office and my home. Just to anticipate STATS' response, I had my IT Department check things out as well, and they assure me (of course, I pay them, so they always assure me) that this is not my problem, but rather a STATS problem.

Greg/Tom/Whomever, can you PLEASE contact STATS and have them fix this?

Thanks.

Buster

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:44 pm

From the get go...it was a real problem...not real bad...but on a professional level...bad.

Greg tried his best to take the heat...but geez...enough is enough. Pass the buck to the one who needs to wake up.

Horrible service...actually horrible...when comparing it to the top notch.

~Lance

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 2:52 am

Originally posted by Buster:

For what it is worth, the live scoring pitching is wrong yet again. I have a hard time understanding why STATS is about the only company that cannot do updated live standings, but I've learned to live with that. One would think that at least their live scoring would include all the hitters and the pitchers.

Wait, if one would think that, well then one would be wrong.

Would it be possible for someone to contact STATS and have them fix this rather annoying problem?

From the prior posts, I know that it is not only me that is having this problem, and I have it at my office and my home. Just to anticipate STATS' response, I had my IT Department check things out as well, and they assure me (of course, I pay them, so they always assure me) that this is not my problem, but rather a STATS problem.

Greg/Tom/Whomever, can you PLEASE contact STATS and have them fix this?

Thanks.

Buster Okay, I'll continue to ask STATS to look into this. We did not have the same problems with live scoring the first two years and it's bizarre that it's happening mainly on the pitching. I've asked STATS to dive into this and solve it immediately.

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 6:20 am

fyi... It happens a lot to P's on TEX and LAA.

I also have seen the same P update fine on one team, and not on another. Jared Weaver yesterday. Maybe there is ONE server that's the problem... just a guess.

Live stats have never been 100% on any site EVER.

the AX cuts deep · Post by **the AX cuts deep** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 5:42 pm

Anybody heard of "PUFFINS"....??

That is the guy to use for live stats and standings, fersure fersure....