Week 9 FAAB Bids

Tom Kessenich · Post by **Tom Kessenich** » Sun May 28, 2006 12:53 pm

Each week we will spotlight the top bids in each of the NFBC leagues. Here's a look at this week's top bids:

Chicago League 1: Dante's Screamers Jered Weaver 260; Stargell's Stars Kendry Morales 203; Akulas Milton Bradley 128; Shawon-O-Meters Ricky Nolasco 112; Cheap Seat Chuggers Daniel Cabrera 83; Sunday Silence Tony Womack 74; Dante's Screamers Dallas McPherson 71; Team Hedgehog David DeJesus 71; The Lollygaggers Orlando Hernandez 55; Dante's Screamers Jeff Weaver 44.

Chicago League 2: Team Dunlop Jered Weaver 440; "D" is for Kirk Gibson (1) Kendry Morales 185; Team Tavoso Marcus Thames 111; LB Big Richards Kenny Ray 77; Big Mac Attack Orlando Hernandez 62; "D" is for Kirk Gibson (1) Joe Nelson 60.

Chicago League 3: Hot Dog at Game>Steak At Ritz Ian Kinsler 352; Thunder Road Kendry Morales 252; Hot Wings & Beer Kenny Ray 124; HINDSIGHT IS 20-20 Marcus Thames 51; Team Gillespie Mike Lieberthal 43; Team Gillespie Jamey Carroll 43; A Greek, a Lebanese, and a Mutt Aaron Heilman 41.

Las Vegas League 1: Sultans of Smack Kendry Morales 309; Pimpin' Trigger Jr. Jered Weaver 202; coocha was born on draft day Jeromy Burnitz 201; Wiseguy Baseball Chien-Ming Wang 135; Zefurs Tim Salmon 101; Team Levitz-100g Ambiorix Burgos 52; coldwater coyotes Mike Thompson 49; Sukate Mike Timlin 43; Sukate Scott Linebrink 43

Sukate Joel Zumaya 42; Zefurs Marcus Thames 41; Sukate Adam Wainwright 41.

Las Vegas League 2: Team Lyons Kendry Morales 129; 56 Indians Jered Weaver 121; Rack It Up Kenny Ray 88; DOUGHBOYS Dallas McPherson 70

DOUGHBOYS Jeff Weaver 70; Walla Walla David Bell 51; DOUGHBOYS Marcus Thames 50.

Las Vegas League 3: Brunansky Number Five Jered Weaver 353; OAHU RAIDERS Kendry Morales 157; Panic! At the Disco Kenny Ray 123; Big Alameda Machine Alay Soler 90; Piggy Mike O'Connor 64.

Las Vegas League 4: Sons of Thunder Jered Weaver 324; LIPORAMA Kendry Morales 220; Dixie Boyz Kenny Ray 211; Team Cameron Marcus Thames 78; SportsBuff.com Wandy Rodriguez 67; Florida Jaguars Alay Soler 59; Team Cameron Scott Spiezio 43.

Las Vegas League 5: Team Longood Jered Weaver 502; Wonder Boy/Ball Dude Kendry Morales 352; Team Johnson Marcus Thames 56; Shot In The Dark Hayden Penn 51; CREATiVESPORTS (Buster) Mike Thompson 47.

Las Vegas League 6: Las Vegas Ratpack Kendry Morales 307; Las Vegas Ratpack Jered Weaver 307; Building the Ark Brandon Inge 112; STONEERIKAALLISON Sidney Ponson 101; Building the Ark Clay Hensley 62; nipsey russell Marcus Thames 55; Team Bonaminio Jamie Moyer 55; Sackofpotatoes Jeff Weaver 52.

Las Vegas League 7: SENATORS Jered Weaver 410; Wiz Main Event Kendry Morales 223; JackHammer Takashi Saito 187; WEIRD SCIENCE Hector Luna 127; Last Year's Bums Kenny Ray 123; SENATORS Aaron Sele 71; SENATORS Brad Halsey 41.

Las Vegas League 8: SCORPIONS Jered Weaver 375; LONG GONE Craig Wilson 227; LOS LOBOS LOCOS Kenny Ray 194; Dickie V's FusterCluck Alay Soler 122; Lumpys Losers Tony Womack 105; Dickie V's FusterCluck Marcus Thames 44.

Las Vegas League 9: Pine Riders Kendry Morales 222; Durhham Bulls Jered Weaver 181; Team Ruland Kenny Ray 111; Team Kraus Joel Zumaya 86; Team Kraus Brian Schneider 58; Team Houston Jamie Moyer 46.

New York League 1: Team Breese Jered Weaver 401; The Rhythm Section Kendry Morales 345; Hamburg Hackers Kenny Ray 209; Georg & Yortuk Festrunk Joe Nelson 79; The End Game Marcus Thames 61; The End Game Ryan Madson 60; Lost Sailors Odalis Perez 42.

New York League 2: Wallingford or Bust Jered Weaver 307; RotoSpin.com Alay Soler 87; Pinochle Bunch Jamie Shields 71; Kingman-Millan Gambit Ryan Madson 65; I love Bush Mark DeRosa 52; Team Marchese Jamey Carroll 40.

New York League 3: MT Pockets Francisco Cordero 383; Team Conti Jered Weaver 235; MT Pockets Kendry Morales 114; Team Jaffe Alay Soler 105; Wagga Wagga Dingoes Jason Botts 100; Prospectors Orlando Hernandez 69; Team Jaffe Ambiorix Burgos 59; 2 BALLS & A DING DONG Tony Womack 51; Team Jaffe Clay Hensley 49.

New York League 4: Derek Jeter's 5th Ring Jered Weaver 308; Heads Kendry Morales 302; The Three Amigos Orlando Hernandez 153; Team Zwickel Kenny Ray 125; MGBS109 Marcus Thames 47.

New York League 5: Outlaws Jered Weaver 518; Victor Conte's Clients Kendry Morales 329; Victor Conte's Clients Kenny Ray 196; KIDS J&W Dallas McPherson 169; GoBabyGo Aaron Sele 78; Ronkonkytown Mulletts Jason Kubel 65; CreativeSports Lori Alay Soler 55; O'Aces 16 Howie Kendrick 46.

New York League 6: Serenity Now Jered Weaver 445; baseball sevant Kendry Morales 227; Fightin' Amish Jeff Weaver 104; Ya Gotta Believe Alay Soler 78; Chewy & His Girls.... Sidney Ponson 72; Fightin' Amish Bob Howry 43.

New York League 7: Holidays Jered Weaver 296; Poopy Tooth Kendry Morales 230; Pokerface Kenny Ray 141; Teenage Wasteland Jack Wilson 100; Showtime Dan Johnson 91; Krooklyn Dodgers Alay Soler 76; Sopranos Jason Kubel 73; AMAZINS Orlando Hernandez 73; Showtime Tony Womack 53; Showtime Marcus Thames 51; AMAZINS Ryan Madson 44.

Tampa League 1: The Chameleons Jered Weaver 417; LATHAM Kendry Morales 206; LATHAM Kenny Ray 137.

Tampa League 2: Quasimodo's Esmereldas Jered Weaver 337; BaseballTangent.com Hideki Matsui 213; SLUMP BUSTERS Kendry Morales 212; Miami Canes Tony Womack 52; Miami Canes Horacio Ramirez 49; Heartbreak Kids John Koronka 40.

Tampa League 3: Tampa Munchers Jered Weaver 222; primetime players Kenny Ray 101; Tampa Munchers Kendry Morales 71; Team Goldblatt Frank Thomas 55; Lil Papi's Heroes Kelly Stinnett 48; Eight Men Up Aaron Sele 47; primetime players Byung-Hyun Kim 45.

Ultimate League 1: viking vacation Jered Weaver 536; Ramss Kenny Ray 172; Las Vegas Gamblers Kendry Morales 159; Team Johnson Tony Womack 48; Team Johnson Marcus Thames 46; Bustouts Mike Lieberthal 41.

Ultimate League 2: Triple A Jered Weaver 265; FIREBALLS Kenny Ray 119; Hakuna Matata Craig Wilson 89; Appleton Hays III Steve Finley 48; Poopy Tooth Cody Ross 45; AMAZINS Ryan Madson 43.

Ultimate Auction League: LIPORAMA U Jered Weaver 517; Let It Roll Kendry Morales 280; Irreconcilable Differences Alay Soler 60.

Las Vegas $1,250 AL Auction League: Wildwood Weeds Terrence Long 56;

Inspin.com Jamie Shields 56.

Las Vegas $1,250 NL Auction League 1: CCs Desperados(NL) Alay Soler 237; Zefurs NL Kenny Ray 205; Hankerchiefs Scott Cassidy 123; Barry's Juice Matt Kemp 116; Team Kraus Travis Ishikawa 81.

Las Vegas $1,250 NL Auciton League 2: Team Menna Damian Jackson 66;

Team Menna Matt Kemp 55; RoundTrippers Mike Remlinger 51; RoundTrippers Alay Soler 51; The Petr Klima Project Corey Hart 44.

Las Vegas $1,250 Mixed Auction League: nationals Jered Weaver 536; cheapthrills Kendry Morales 321; nationals Kenny Ray 121.

Las Vegas $650 AL Auction League: Jason Grey Jered Weaver 502; RoundTrippers Ted Lilly 409; Jason Grey Jason Botts 378; Zefurs AL Roman Colon 41; Zefurs AL Andrew Sisco 41; Wonder Boy/Ball Dude Alex Cora 41.

Las Vegas $650 NL Auction League: NL WHALERS Enrique Gonzalez 82; NL WHALERS Travis Ishikawa 56.

Las Vegas $650 Mixed Auction League: Team McCarthy Jered Weaver 341;

Team Levitz- Mixed Lge Bob Howry 78; PUFFY CLUB HOUSE & BAR Kendry Morales 56; Vegas Royals Aaron Sele 44; Team Levitz- Mixed Lge Jaret Wright 41.

Chicago/Tampa $650 NL Auction League: Team Feldman Orlando Hernandez 131; Smith Fleecers Kenny Ray 107; Monsters Enrique Gonzalez 51.

New York $650 AL Auction League: E.B. Farnum Joe Nelson 153; Homer's Homers Rodrigo Lopez 79.

New York $650 Mixed Auction League: Bonds' Accountants Jered Weaver 419; JuicedUp Kendry Morales 251.

[ May 28, 2006, 06:53 PM: Message edited by: Tom Kessenich ]

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Sun May 28, 2006 1:15 pm

Am I to believe that Jared Weaver went for less than $41 in Chicago 3?

RODGER · Post by **RODGER** » Sun May 28, 2006 2:09 pm

Originally posted by bjoak:

Am I to believe that Jared Weaver went for less than $41 in Chicago 3? He was drafted in that league and already owned.

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Sun May 28, 2006 4:04 pm

Originally posted by RODGER:

quote:Originally posted by bjoak:

Am I to believe that Jared Weaver went for less than $41 in Chicago 3? He was drafted in that league and already owned. [/QUOTE]The prepared mind favors common sense. :rolleyes:

rgordon · Post by **rgordon** » Sun May 28, 2006 4:24 pm

I have a hunch. Since only one league took him at the draft, I am guessing he may have been an illegal pick in that league. Can someone look up to see if he was on the 40 man at that time?

I also note that Yan was designated for assignment and I am guessing that was done to get him off the 40 man

RedRyder · Post by **RedRyder** » Sun May 28, 2006 5:05 pm

Originally posted by rgordon:

I have a hunch. Since only one league took him at the draft, I am guessing he may have been an illegal pick in that league. Can someone look up to see if he was on the 40 man at that time?

I also note that Yan was designated for assignment and I am guessing that was done to get him off the 40 man He was not on the 40 man roster at draft time, nor was he on the Free Agents/Non-Roster Invitee list.

Was he really drafted?

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Sun May 28, 2006 5:19 pm

Originally posted by UFS:

quote:Originally posted by RODGER:

quote:Originally posted by bjoak:

Am I to believe that Jared Weaver went for less than $41 in Chicago 3? He was drafted in that league and already owned. [/QUOTE]The prepared mind favors common sense. :rolleyes: [/QUOTE]As others have noted, common sense tells me he couldn't have been owned before this week due to nfbc rules. :rolleyes:

RODGER · Post by **RODGER** » Sun May 28, 2006 5:24 pm

Originally posted by RedRyder:

quote:Originally posted by rgordon:

I have a hunch. Since only one league took him at the draft, I am guessing he may have been an illegal pick in that league. Can someone look up to see if he was on the 40 man at that time?

I also note that Yan was designated for assignment and I am guessing that was done to get him off the 40 man He was not on the 40 man roster at draft time, nor was he on the Free Agents/Non-Roster Invitee list.

Was he really drafted? [/QUOTE]=========================================

YES. In Chicago League 3, Jered Weaver was selected by Blues Brothers with pick 18.11 (3 spots earlier than his brother Jeff by the way).

The draft facilitators screwed up BIG TIME because this player was NOT ELIGIBLE to be drafted.

BIG PROBLEM... MAJOR CONTROVERSEY... WHAT TO DO?

[ May 28, 2006, 11:29 PM: Message edited by: RODGER ]

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Mon May 29, 2006 3:44 am

He was not allowed to be drafted. If he was in Chicago League 3, we'll address this with the current owner and put him back in the free agent pool for Week 9. I'll work with STATS on this today. I knew there would be some instances like this, but everyone was aware that certain players could not be drafted and in the fairness of the competition for each city, if this happens those situations will be dealt with and the players will be put back into the free agent pool.

Latham · Post by **Latham** » Mon May 29, 2006 3:59 am

It looks like Weaver was drafted in Chicago 3 and then dropped by the team that drafted him. He was then picked up by a different team on waivers on April 23rd (for $11). Looks like current owner didn't do anything wrong in picking up Weaver.

RODGER · Post by **RODGER** » Mon May 29, 2006 4:03 am

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

He was not allowed to be drafted. If he was in Chicago League 3, we'll address this with the current owner and put him back in the free agent pool for Week 9. I'll work with STATS on this today. I knew there would be some instances like this, but everyone was aware that certain players could not be drafted and in the fairness of the competition for each city, if this happens those situations will be dealt with and the players will be put back into the free agent pool. Tough call on this one.

On one hand, the team shouldn't have been allowed to draft the player. On the other, should the player be denied from the entire league for a week or two?

What about the fact that if there were to be new bidding on him, the teams in the league would have a frame of reference for the estimated value by being able to look at the other 21 leagues' bids?

If he's taken off the team that has had him, does that team just sit with an open bench spot until they pick up their next free agent?

Tough decisions indeed... to keep things fair, but to also try and deal with a situation where time has altered the variables and the people would have more knowledge than the other 315 competitors did when making choices on the issue.

Tough to go back in time, fix things, and avoid disturbing the present or altering the natural course of the future.

No simple solution available.

RODGER · Post by **RODGER** » Mon May 29, 2006 4:21 am

Originally posted by Latham:

It looks like Weaver was drafted in Chicago 3 and then dropped by the team that drafted him. He was then picked up by a different team on waivers on April 23rd (for $11). Looks like current owner didn't do anything wrong in picking up Weaver. And this just makes it even more complicated.

The team that has Weaver now simply went by what the website told them was legal.

The ripple effect of undoing not just a draft pick, but subsequent bidding as well... tough to penalize a team that won a player's rights bidding through the website... impossible to know what would have taken place if he had never been listed.

There was clearly a mistake made, but at what point do the mistakes become cemented over? It's like when a scoring change is made on a 40 yard touchdown pass two weeks after the game... Elias determines it was actually a lateral, and the QB loses his TD points. It's too late for a fantasy team that has, as a result, been eliminated from the playoffs.

The team who has Weaver would certainly have a legit gripe if there was now an attempt to take the pitcher away.

kgrady · Post by **kgrady** » Mon May 29, 2006 4:50 am

Looking ahead to next year and beyond ... I would suggest that owners be allowed to draft any player they wish, regardless of whether he is on the 40-man rosters. This would have made players like Jered Weaver, Alex Gordon, and Chad Billingsley available for drafting. I realize this would involve having more players in the database, but I can't imagine this being much of an issue. Also, since the NFBC is not a carryover league, no one is going to draft a player who is clearly a year or two away from reaching the big leagues.

Kevin

Terry H · Post by **Terry H** » Mon May 29, 2006 4:56 am

Easy call, the team that drafted him should of known that he wasn't eligible. I don't think you can expect the facillitators to know all the eligible and non-eligible players, but the other participants in the league should of known and obviously said nothing. The team that picked him up should of known that he wasn't eligible, yet did so and by doing so should of been prepared for the possibility of this situation.

This could have been avoided if the league administators had checked all rosters after the draft and/or at least checked all drops to make sure no ineligible players were in play.

Buster · Post by **Buster** » Mon May 29, 2006 5:03 am

Let me jump in for my 2 cents worth, as well.

I am operating on the following assumptions:

1. Jered Weaver was (illegally) drafted in Chicago 3;

2. The team that drafted Jered Weaver subsequently cut him; and

3. Jered Weaver was then placed in the free agent pool and was up for bids to all teams in Chicago 3.

If this is all accurate, then the remaining 14 teams in Chicago 3 all had an opportunity to bid on Weaver (prior to his addition to the 40 man), but all had an equal opportunity.

I seriously doubt that any manager decided against bidding because Weaver was ineligible. Had a manager questioned the eligibility, he/she likely would have contacted Greg/Tom and asked, rather than abstain from bidding.

So, since all teams in Chicago 3 had a shot at Weaver (albeit a little earlier than the other leagues), the manager who won that early bidding should not have to return him so that the other managers (now with advanced knowledge of Weaver's relative FAAB value and a second week to watch him pitch), can now place a bid.

It's an unfortunate situation, but as each team in Chicago 3 had a shot at bidding on Weaver, I wouldn't be in support of placing him back into the pool for a free-for-all for the managers.

I'm usually in the minority here, so go ahead and disregard if you so desire.

Buster

RODGER · Post by **RODGER** » Mon May 29, 2006 5:15 am

Originally posted by Buster:

Let me jump in for my 2 cents worth, as well.

I am operating on the following assumptions:

1. Jered Weaver was (illegally) drafted in Chicago 3;

2. The team that drafted Jered Weaver subsequently cut him; and

3. Jered Weaver was then placed in the free agent pool and was up for bids to all teams in Chicago 3.

If this is all accurate, then the remaining 14 teams in Chicago 3 all had an opportunity to bid on Weaver (prior to his addition to the 40 man), but all had an equal opportunity.

I seriously doubt that any manager decided against bidding because Weaver was ineligible. Had a manager questioned the eligibility, he/she likely would have contacted Greg/Tom and asked, rather than abstain from bidding.

So, since all teams in Chicago 3 had a shot at Weaver (albeit a little earlier than the other leagues), the manager who won that early bidding should not have to return him so that the other managers (now with advanced knowledge of Weaver's relative FAAB value and a second week to watch him pitch), can now place a bid.

It's an unfortunate situation, but as each team in Chicago 3 had a shot at bidding on Weaver, I wouldn't be in support of placing him back into the pool for a free-for-all for the managers.

I'm usually in the minority here, so go ahead and disregard if you so desire.

Buster Best point yet, Buster.

It may not be the same way things worked out in the other leagues, but neither would any proposal that stripped Weaver from the team he's currently on.

The key thing you said, that everyone in Chicago 3 had an equal shot to place a bid on Jered Weaver back when he was available as a free agent, should really be the end of the discussion. It may have been earlier than he was supposed to be available, but there's no denying the fact that the situation was completely equitable and fair to all 15 teams.

It's too late to truly make that possible again, so the kid should absolutely remain on the team that won him with their bid back in April.

LB Big Richards · Post by **LB Big Richards** » Mon May 29, 2006 5:56 am

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

He was not allowed to be drafted. If he was in Chicago League 3, we'll address this with the current owner and put him back in the free agent pool for Week 9. I'll work with STATS on this today. I knew there would be some instances like this, but everyone was aware that certain players could not be drafted and in the fairness of the competition for each city, if this happens those situations will be dealt with and the players will be put back into the free agent pool. Greg, if you recall, Jered Weaver was listed in the FA pool in CHI 2 on the FAAB week ending 4/16. I scooped him up with a similar, small bid only to have the move reversed. Here's the email I received from you on 4/17.

Hojin,

Weaver was not allowed to be in the free agent pool, but for some reason he was in three leagues from what I’m told. STATS rescinded those pickups last night. Sorry about the confusion.

Was this snafu related to CHI 3? When the team who drafted Jered dropped him, did this trigger the his availability in the three leagues?

Maybe it's related - if so, another STATS boo-boo. If not, carry on.

Another tough decision for Greg. I trust he will make the right one.

Terry H · Post by **Terry H** » Mon May 29, 2006 6:21 am

What about the team that read the rules, knew the rules, played by the rules and thus decided not to bid on Weaver because they felt that a mistake had been made and trusted that it would be taken care of? Now they don't have the opportunity to bid on him. Is that fair?

RODGER · Post by **RODGER** » Mon May 29, 2006 6:46 am

Originally posted by Terry Haney:

What about the team that read the rules, knew the rules, played by the rules and thus decided not to bid on Weaver because they felt that a mistake had been made and trusted that it would be taken care of? Now they don't have the opportunity to bid on him. Is that fair? Any team in that position would have pointed out the problem SIX WEEKS ago.

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Mon May 29, 2006 7:58 am

I don't get how this problem happened in the first place. I assume at the draft there was no tag with Jared's name on it. At the point at which he is drafted, doesn't the league administrator think something, at least, is fishy since there is no tag and check the eligibility list? The same thing seemed to happen in the league next to mine where someone drafted Brandon Wood and there was a big disturbance as they couldn't find his tag and I had to shout over that he wasn't eligible. I was lucky to have a great league administrator who was knowledgable about every player. I doubt this could have happened in LV3.

At any rate, I'd advise the NFBC to have their lawyers help to make this decision as the rules clearly don't cover it and losing teams involved could later claim that they were cheated by being allowed the draft pick or one less space on his team or that the faab next week created an inequity in the competition because Chicago 3 now has a much better idea of Weaver's worth, which was an advantage that other leagues didn't have.

I'm no lawyer, but I would think that because the NFBC allowed the move in the first place, they should stay the course, though one might argue that this creates inequity in a different way.

[ May 29, 2006, 02:11 PM: Message edited by: bjoak ]

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Mon May 29, 2006 8:10 am

Originally posted by kgrady:

Looking ahead to next year and beyond ... I would suggest that owners be allowed to draft any player they wish, regardless of whether he is on the 40-man rosters. This would have made players like Jered Weaver, Alex Gordon, and Chad Billingsley available for drafting. I realize this would involve having more players in the database, but I can't imagine this being much of an issue. Also, since the NFBC is not a carryover league, no one is going to draft a player who is clearly a year or two away from reaching the big leagues.

Kevin You must be new. They used to do this, but it created all kinds of other problems, including that owners were drafting single-A pitchers that had no chance of being called up or their moms or whomever and using them with some closers to try and run the board on some categories while punting others. I don't believe the strategy really worked that well and you could probably pull the same s with dl'ed players, lefty one out guys, Rick Ankiel (who is both available in my league and a pitcher for some reason) etc. if you really wanted to. Anyway, that was why there weren't so many $800 faab picks last year. Not sure which system is better.

[ May 29, 2006, 02:14 PM: Message edited by: bjoak ]

eddiejag · Post by **eddiejag** » Mon May 29, 2006 8:55 am

I totally agree with Buster, the owner one him fair and square.Dave also has a good point, bid on anyone , its not a keeper league.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Mon May 29, 2006 8:58 am

Originally posted by kgrady:

Looking ahead to next year and beyond ... I would suggest that owners be allowed to draft any player they wish, regardless of whether he is on the 40-man rosters. This would have made players like Jered Weaver, Alex Gordon, and Chad Billingsley available for drafting. I realize this would involve having more players in the database, but I can't imagine this being much of an issue. Also, since the NFBC is not a carryover league, no one is going to draft a player who is clearly a year or two away from reaching the big leagues.

Kevin Two things here: One, we did have this in place last year and owners drafted Class A players to fill their rosters, hoping to skirt the rules to win ERA and WHIP. We increased the number of innings pitched to also help compensate this. Secondly, as an MLB licensee, we do have to stay within 40-man rosters since those are the only players who are members of the union.

Finally, one thing this rule has helped with is in-season pickups. Guys like Cole Hamels and Jered Weaver would have been stored away on many rosters until now. This allows for more active in-season pickups.

We'll look at Chicago 3 and act accordingly. An in-season pickup of Weaver was denied earlier this year and that would be the case here as well. The owner would get his FAAB back and a chance to fill that open spot and Weaver would be added to this week's free agent pool in Chicago League 3. According to the rules, he shouldn't have been allowed to be drafted and thus wouldn't have been available via free agency. We'll stick to the rules for all 22 main event leagues.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Mon May 29, 2006 9:05 am

Originally posted by LB Big Richards:

quote:Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

He was not allowed to be drafted. If he was in Chicago League 3, we'll address this with the current owner and put him back in the free agent pool for Week 9. I'll work with STATS on this today. I knew there would be some instances like this, but everyone was aware that certain players could not be drafted and in the fairness of the competition for each city, if this happens those situations will be dealt with and the players will be put back into the free agent pool. Greg, if you recall, Jered Weaver was listed in the FA pool in CHI 2 on the FAAB week ending 4/16. I scooped him up with a similar, small bid only to have the move reversed. Here's the email I received from you on 4/17.

Hojin,

Weaver was not allowed to be in the free agent pool, but for some reason he was in three leagues from what I’m told. STATS rescinded those pickups last night. Sorry about the confusion.

Was this snafu related to CHI 3? When the team who drafted Jered dropped him, did this trigger the his availability in the three leagues?

Maybe it's related - if so, another STATS boo-boo. If not, carry on.

Another tough decision for Greg. I trust he will make the right one. [/QUOTE]I certainly remember, Hojin. This case is no different. It's not a STATS boo-boo, we missed this pickup and by we I mean Tom and I. This owner will get his $11 FAAB back and Weaver will go back into the free agent pool this week. It's not a tough decision as the rule needs to apply fairly to all 22 main event leagues. The 40-man rosters were implemented as I explained above for a number of reasons and we need to follow the guidelines so that every league is competing fairly. The only backlash is that this owner could have filled this roster spot differently over the last five weeks and that is our fault. But no stats have been accumulated in the meantime and in fact he didn't even have him in his starting lineup for this week, so no harm no foul.

Again, we knew the 40-man roster would be tougher to implement on Draft Day and during the season if there were mistakes on Draft Day, but in the end it had to be implemented and it will be administered correctly. Let's move on.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Mon May 29, 2006 9:08 am

Originally posted by bjoak:

I don't get how this problem happened in the first place. I assume at the draft there was no tag with Jared's name on it. The stickers don't correspond with our rules. We just purchase the draft boards and stickers from a good company; they don't comply the positions and names to our system.

In Round 30, it wasn't tough for the facilitators and the other owners to miss this one. But we'll correct it and move on. Again, no statistics have been accumulated for this owner and thus we'll work it out.