2011 All Time Draft

[CC's Desperados]

It's been a few years since we did the Hall of Fame draft. My sentence over at scout.com is to post on the message board 90 times a month during the baseball season. Over the last couple of years, I'vee been think about this draft. I thought it would be interesting to reflect on the draft plus add some insight on the picks to show the upside and downside of the picks. If you are interested in following my progress through baseball history, here's the link the message board thread:

http://fantasy.scout.com/forums/5397-fa ... raft?s=532

[Likewhat17]

Excellent work thus far Shawn, keep it up.

One of the most undervalued elements of the whole exercise is how beneficial it was from a draft strategy and game theory standpoint.

[Bronx Yankees]

Just wanted to jump in and say that I am finding it a great read. That league must have been a fun challenge to research and play out.

Mike

[CC's Desperados]

Thanks...it will be a couple of days before doing the next player. I'm trying to recreate the standings to help fantasy owners see the progression of teams. I'll have the first round recap done soon.

[G@mblor]

Shawn, this is Dan Wydick. I was partnered with Dave Shovein for the All-Time Draft and he kept track of the standings I believe. If you need to have a look at them for your write up I'd bet he still has all that. I'm looking forward to reliving the rest of that draft. I remember in particular the debates about the blind rounds and how it increasingly became about how our approach fit in with what the other owners were doing.

[CC's Desperados]

Shawn, this is Dan Wydick. I was partnered with Dave Shovein for the All-Time Draft and he kept track of the standings I believe. If you need to have a look at them for your write up I'd bet he still has all that. I'm looking forward to reliving the rest of that draft. I remember in particular the debates about the blind rounds and how it increasingly became about how our approach fit in with what the other owners were doing.

I have every pick documented on Facebook plus a picture of the standing after each round, but I wanted to be able to copy and paste the stats. I'm almost done, but I had to detour to finish my research for the Masters next week. I'll be back on track soon.

[CC's Desperados]

I'm back to live action on this draft for those that were following.

[CC's Desperados]

Up to round three in the recap of this draft if anyone is still interested in following.

http://fantasy.scout.com/forums/5397-fa ... 532&page=2

[Bronx Yankees]

Still following. Great read so far. I like how individual seasons by some of baseball's all-time greats are interspersed with incredible seasons by players that I confess to not knowing much, if anything, about. Also cool to see some of the numbers guys put up while I was a big baseball fan but, due to the passage of time, I had forgotten just how extraordinary those individual seasons were (like that Larry Walker season in Round 1, the Piazza season in Round 2 and the Pudge season near the start of Round 3). I knew all three players were great, but I guess I forgot just how great they were during certain individual seasons. Thanks.

Mike

[Le Grand Orange]

This is absolutely fascinating Shawn. In this era of DFS where it is all about today, I so appreciate the historical context that defines baseball for me. Your analysis of the picks relative to categorical balance and positional advantages is a primer in how to play Rotisserie baseball, especially regarding the importance of managing ERA and WHIP. I don't know how you find the time, but I can't wait to read the next installment...

[CC's Desperados]

Still following. Great read so far. I like how individual seasons by some of baseball's all-time greats are interspersed with incredible seasons by players that I confess to not knowing much, if anything, about. Also cool to see some of the numbers guys put up while I was a big baseball fan but, due to the passage of time, I had forgotten just how extraordinary those individual seasons were (like that Larry Walker season in Round 1, the Piazza season in Round 2 and the Pudge season near the start of Round 3). I knew all three players were great, but I guess I forgot just how great they were during certain individual seasons. Thanks.

Mike

A couple of things I've noticed in the early years. It's amazing how many runs were unearned, which probably shouldn't be a surprise due to the gloves used. The lack of strikeouts by pitchers just stands out as a lack of talent to me. As good as some of the batters looked in the 20s and 30s, they clearly had an edge over the pitching talent.

[Yah Mule]

I'm enjoying these recaps. I think the very best players from every time period are relatively comparable, but the worst players in MLB today are far superior to the worst players of bygone eras. The overall talent level is much better now.

[CC's Desperados]

This is absolutely fascinating Shawn. In this era of DFS where it is all about today, I so appreciate the historical context that defines baseball for me. Your analysis of the picks relative to categorical balance and positional advantages is a primer in how to play Rotisserie baseball, especially regarding the importance of managing ERA and WHIP. I don't know how you find the time, but I can't wait to read the next installment...

Thanks for your support....I might not finish this draft for a year!

[CC's Desperados]

I'm still plugging away at this draft recap as I battle the 2015 NFL research. I'm almost as the end of round of four.

Here's an updated link

All-Time Draft - http://fantasy.scout.com/forums/5397-fa ... 532&page=3

[The Sea Wolves]

Anyone have a link to the original draft?

[CC's Desperados]

Anyone have a link to the original draft?

Are looking for the draft stats or just the pick by pick recap?

I placed the whole draft on Facebook - Hall of Fame Fantasy Baseball Draft. Every pick was posted with standings at the end of each round. I have a tough time seeing all the picks when I go there. I need to dig around to find the archives.

[The Sea Wolves]

Thanks. I found it on Facebook.

[The Sea Wolves]

Actually, the Facebook page does not show all the picks. Do you have a link the original picks?

[Likewhat17]

Keep up the great work Shawn!

For those that are following along, it's probably worth mentioning that round 5 (which is where he is at now in the posts) was the first blind round of the draft.

This added a substantial level of gamesmanship and intrigue to the draft, as these picks remained hidden from the entire league until the end of the draft.

[Bronx Yankees]

Keep up the great work Shawn!

For those that are following along, it's probably worth mentioning that round 5 (which is where he is at now in the posts) was the first blind round of the draft.

This added a substantial level of gamesmanship and intrigue to the draft, as these picks remained hidden from the entire league until the end of the draft.

Just curious: how did you pull that off logistically? Wouldn't you need to know who was taken before you so you know who is available, or am I missing something? Thanks.

Mike

[TOXIC ASSETS]

Enjoying the read here.

Shawn, we should set up a new historical draft, maybe for after this season ends. But adjust the starting year to keep it interesting. How about a draft starting in the year of 1980 to present. And maybe hold it to 12 teams. What do you think?

[Likewhat17]

Just curious: how did you pull that off logistically? Wouldn't you need to know who was taken before you so you know who is available, or am I missing something? Thanks.

Mike

We submitted our picks to an impartial third party (in this case Doughboys was willing to help out). If we tried to select a player who was already drafted, he would let us know that the player was already taken, and to choose again.


Once the round was completed, he let us know who the 15 players were that were selected, but we would have no idea what team selected which player or which season would be used from those players.

[Bronx Yankees]

Just curious: how did you pull that off logistically? Wouldn't you need to know who was taken before you so you know who is available, or am I missing something? Thanks.

Mike

We submitted our picks to an impartial third party (in this case Doughboys was willing to help out). If we tried to select a player who was already drafted, he would let us know that the player was already taken, and to choose again.


Once the round was completed, he let us know who the 15 players were that were selected, but we would have no idea what team selected which player or which season would be used from those players.

Gotcha. That's a nice, clever twist. I like it. Thanks.

Mike

[CC's Desperados]

Enjoying the read here.

Shawn, we should set up a new historical draft, maybe for after this season ends. But adjust the starting year to keep it interesting. How about a draft starting in the year of 1980 to present. And maybe hold it to 12 teams. What do you think?

We should do something again. It's a long story why I haven't pushed to do another season.

Depending on the time frame, the number of teams could vary. I think we could have added even more intrigue if we had say 20 team in the first draft. 15 teams worked well as our goal was to parallel the main event with the winner of the league winning an entry.

I'd like to run the same format back just to see how much different the players flow.

The beginning of October is the best time to start after we finish the madness of our baseball season.

[Le Grand Orange]

Bump. Still a great read!