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I said we would post when scoring changes occur from Major League Baseball and post them here. These are corrections that are made more than a day after the games are played. We had one this week and hopefully nobody had Christian Bergman in their starting lineups:

05/06 05/07 Bat Ari +1 Hits for A.J. Pollock
05/06 05/07 Pit Col +1 Hits for Christian Bergman
05/06 05/07 Pit Col +4 Earned Runs for Christian Bergman

This originally was ruled an error, I believe in Wednesday's game and changed yesterday to a hit, which affected Bergman's final line. That should have been adjusted last night. Again, we'll use this thread to post scoring changes as they happen a day or more after the games are played. Thanks all and good luck.

Thanks for posting these Greg. Not that I am a total scoreboard watcher, but as others have noted, there were often times I would check live scoring before beddy-bye and see where I was at and then wake up and then check the emailed standings the next day and it would be wildly off from live scoring just the night before and it was always odd to me and a bit annoying wondering what was up. These scoring changes will really help to see where these wild standings swings are coming from. I never appreciated how many after-the-fact scoring changes are made and really how much of an effect it has on our team standings.

COZ

It looks like Major League Baseball made a major scoring change last week in a game that happened a week before. Joba Chamberlain got four fewer earned runs as the official scorer changed a hit to an error. Sorry that I didn't post this right away. It looks like the change was made last Wednesday and likely was adjusted in our scoring on Thursday night. The Oakland scoring change happened on Thursday night and likely was run on our site on Friday night. Here are two recent scoring changes:

Date of Game/Date of Scoring Change
05/06 05/13 Bat CWS -1 Hits for Adam Eaton
05/06 05/13 Pit Det -1 Hits for Joba Chamberlain
05/06 05/13 Pit Det -4 Earned Runs for Joba Chamberlain
05/06 05/13 Fld Det +1 Errors for Nick Castellanos

05/12 05/14 Bat Bos -1 Hits for Dustin Pedroia
05/12 05/14 Pit Oak -1 Hits for Drew Pomeranz
05/12 05/14 Pit Oak -1 Earned Runs for Drew Pomeranz
05/12 05/14 Fld Oak +1 Errors for Max Muncy

That's it for scoring changes through the weekend. We'll keep an eye on these.

It is absurd that MLB doesn't have a Head League Scorer sitting in the NY Replay room help to determine official and final scoring decisions by the end of each game, if not by the end of each inning.

It is a real problem for Daily Fantasy games. Could literally cost somebody a million dollars.

Thanks for posting the changes here, Greg.

Thanks for posting these.

knuckleheads wrote:It is absurd that MLB doesn't have a Head League Scorer sitting in the NY Replay room help to determine official and final scoring decisions by the end of each game, if not by the end of each inning.

It is a real problem for Daily Fantasy games. Could literally cost somebody a million dollars.

Thanks for posting the changes here, Greg.

I am with everyone else in thanking Greg for posting these.

As to having a "Head League Scorer", I am not sure that would be productive. There are, in comparison to all the plays in all the innings in all the games, very few that get changed. The MLB scorers life is hard enough I imagine (the plays that are changed are few, the complaints many) without having another scorer (or I guess many) that can over rule.

I just do not think it is worth it.

Greg Ambrosius wrote:It looks like Major League Baseball made a major scoring change last week in a game that happened a week before. Joba Chamberlain got four fewer earned runs as the official scorer changed a hit to an error. Sorry that I didn't post this right away. It looks like the change was made last Wednesday and likely was adjusted in our scoring on Thursday night. The Oakland scoring change happened on Thursday night and likely was run on our site on Friday night.

I know these scoring changes are made at the discretion of MLB, and I appreciate the fact that you are helping us as fans and fantasy players by posting those changes here. Thank You.

But ......... even though you are probably correct and those changes were "likely" adjusted at some point on the site, I would rather read ..."that change was made X night" .
I would guess your ambiguity is more aimed at WHEN the change was made on the site and not IF the change was made, but you know us Greg.....we are detail oriented people

Navel Lint wrote:

Greg Ambrosius wrote:It looks like Major League Baseball made a major scoring change last week in a game that happened a week before. Joba Chamberlain got four fewer earned runs as the official scorer changed a hit to an error. Sorry that I didn't post this right away. It looks like the change was made last Wednesday and likely was adjusted in our scoring on Thursday night. The Oakland scoring change happened on Thursday night and likely was run on our site on Friday night.

I know these scoring changes are made at the discretion of MLB, and I appreciate the fact that you are helping us as fans and fantasy players by posting those changes here. Thank You.

But ......... even though you are probably correct and those changes were "likely" adjusted at some point on the site, I would rather read ..."that change was made X night" .
I would guess your ambiguity is more aimed at WHEN the change was made on the site and not IF the change was made, but you know us Greg.....we are detail oriented people

Sure, no problem Russell, but I can't make up something I don't 100 percent know. I know we run the changed numbers the night that we get them. When I see the change listed here I am assuming it's the change made by MLB on the date they list and then we run that change the next night. I can ask for more details, but I believe that's what happened here.

Edwards Kings wrote:As to having a "Head League Scorer", I am not sure that would be productive. There are, in comparison to all the plays in all the innings in all the games, very few that get changed. The MLB scorers life is hard enough I imagine (the plays that are changed are few, the complaints many) without having another scorer (or I guess many) that can over rule.

I just do not think it is worth it.

Taking 3 days to decide what happened in a game is not productive. The complaints would be fewer if the scoring decisions were more consistent.

Not sure what difference it makes if it is done three days later. Agents need a little time to determine if worth going to bat for their players or not. Cannot possibly happen instantly. If every scoring decision is reviewed by someone in New York, then there is no need for an official scorer in the first place. Some things should be left alone. Having an official scorer is one of those things.

knuckleheads wrote:Taking 3 days to decide what happened in a game is not productive. The complaints would be fewer if the scoring decisions were more consistent.

Taking three days could be for a variety of reasons. None of which involve the scorekeeper. There is a lot of politics at play.
This will never change. Some will take even a week or longer.

Two scoring changes over the course of thousands of plays in a week is not consistent?

Edit-
Almost any ball hit by David Ortiz that is ruled an error, will be challenged by David Ortiz.
It's the nature of his beast.
Other players have picked up on this and want the same treatment.
Many more challenges than the past.
We hear about the ones that are overturned. There are many, many more that are not.

DOUGHBOYS wrote:

knuckleheads wrote:Taking 3 days to decide what happened in a game is not productive. The complaints would be fewer if the scoring decisions were more consistent.

Taking three days could be for a variety of reasons. None of which involve the scorekeeper. There is a lot of politics at play.
This will never change. Some will take even a week or longer.

There should be no challenges and no politics. A play should be scored as it happens. If there is a question (1 or 2 plays per game are truly questionable at most) then ask the Head Scorekeeper and get the decision in the moment, no further review.

As for "this will never change", that's what they used to say about umpires personal strike zones, and replay, and, well, everything else in baseball.

I actually think this will change quickly due to MLB's embrace of Daily Fantasy. About the first time there is an article written about some poor guy who lost $15K beacause a scoring change was made two days after the contest instead of the night of the contest (for those who don't play, Daily Fantasy pays out at the end of the day), there will be too much pressure to ignore it.

knuckleheads wrote:There should be no challenges and no politics.

Good luck with that.

I don't play daily games.
If a call is overturned even the next day, does that change the winners?
Or is it tough luck for the would-be winners?

DOUGHBOYS wrote:I don't play daily games.
If a call is overturned even the next day, does that change the winners?
Or is it tough luck for the would-be winners?

It's tough luck.

Guys in NFBC go batshit because live-scoring is inaccurate. What do you think the reaction would be if a late scoring change would have changed the game winner if the scoring change had been made the day of the game?

Watching the Phils play in COL rt now....Stubbs just SMOKED one....actually he popped up..can a corn, but our CF (Odubadeedumass) couldn't find it...so double. If I was Hamel's agent I DEFINITELY petiton to get that BS overturned, but it should never come to that. Anyone watching could see ODB missplayed it, obvious error*, but they don't call it one.

On that play that Polanco looked like he got shot by an invisible sniper I guess that's a hit...he didn't touch the ball right

When they go to replay to challenge a call they give you an answer right away (well, pretty fast..a couple min's). Why shouldn't they be able to make all scoring decisions by the end of the game ? This days/wks later scoring changes is crap.

Maybe retired players can use old video to help them get a few more hits...What IS the statute of limitations on scoring changes

*By the way, I say this as someone who was DUMB enough to roster Stubbs tonight in DFS. That was no freaking double...but I'll take it

There are two more scoring changes from last Tuesday's games that were changed yesterday by MLB. One is a big one:

05/12 05/18 Bat SF +1 Hits for Buster Posey
05/12 05/18 Pit Hou +1 Hits for Collin McHugh
05/12 05/18 Pit Hou +4 Earned Runs for Collin McHugh
05/12 05/18 Fld Hou -1 Errors for Luis Valbuena

05/12 05/18 Bat Bos +1 Hits for Dustin Pedroia
05/12 05/18 Pit Oak +1 Hits for Drew Pomeranz
05/12 05/18 Pit Oak +1 Earned Runs for Drew Pomeranz
05/12 05/18 Fld Oak -1 Errors for Max Muncy

It looks like an error on Manny Machado in Saturday's game has been changed to a hit for Matt Joyce. See the change below:

05/16 05/19 Bat LAA +1 Hits for Matt Joyce
05/16 05/19 Pit Bal +1 Hits for Ubaldo Jimenez
05/16 05/19 Fld Bal -1 Errors for Manny Machado

I'm not sure why there were so many MLB scoring changes administered last night, but here they are:

Game Date/Day of Change
05/23 06/01 Bat CWS -1 Hits for J.B. Shuck
05/23 06/01 Pit Min -1 Hits for Trevor May
05/23 06/01 Fld Min +1 Errors for Danny Santana

05/22 06/01 Bat Det +1 Hits for Yoenis Cespedes
05/22 06/01 Bat Det +1 Doubles for Yoenis Cespedes
05/22 06/01 Pit Hou +1 Hits for Chad Qualls
05/22 06/01 Pit Hou +3 Earned Runs for Chad Qualls
05/22 06/01 Fld Hou -1 Errors for Luis Valbuena

05/21 06/01 Bat Phi +1 Hits for Chase Utley
05/21 06/01 Bat Col -1 Hits for Brandon Barnes
05/21 06/01 Pit Col +1 Hits for Jorge De La Rosa
05/21 06/01 Pit Phi -1 Hits for Elvis Araujo
05/21 06/01 Pit Phi -1 Earned Runs for Elvis Araujo
05/21 06/01 Fld Phi +1 Errors for Freddy Galvis
05/21 06/01 Fld Col -1 Errors for Ben Paulsen

05/22 06/01 Bat Pit -1 Hits for Gregory Polanco
05/22 06/01 Bat Pit -1 Runs Batted In for Gregory Polanco
05/22 06/01 Pit NYM -1 Hits for Noah Syndergaard
05/22 06/01 Pit NYM -2 Earned Runs for Noah Syndergaard
05/22 06/01 Pit NYM -1 Runs Batted In for Noah Syndergaard
05/22 06/01 Fld NYM +1 Errors for Lucas Duda