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Miami Marlins

Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 6:28 pm
by COZ
I'm sorry, did the Jeffrey Loria Marlins just install their GM, a guy with absolutely zero managerial experience at any level, as the Manager? No wonder that organization is consistently at the bottom of the standings and has absolutely zero credibility amongst baseball insiders. I've always tried to give Jeffrey Loria the benefit of the doubt, thinking the constant criticism is typical anti-rich-owner-angst, but this is the topper for me. He really is a wannabe George Steinbrenner, but without the business chops & old money street credibility of George. What a slap in the face to baseball managers everywhere. Organizational dysfunction obviously starts at the top in Miami. Somebody please put a tent over the circus that is the Miami Marlin organization, and put a big red nose that honks and big floppy shoes on its owner.

COZ

Re: Miami Marlins

Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 10:10 pm
by DOUGHBOYS
Loria's mind is unlike most others. He can be cheap. He can throw money around.
He probably thinks this season is lost.
A time when money stops flowing.
He is paying Guillen the last year of his contract. He will be paying Redmond this year and next.
He wasn't going to pay a third Manager.
Determined to hire within the organization, I am guessing he was told, "No", by some.
So, he went to somebody that couldn't tell him no.....at least without fear of losing his own job.
All conjecture on my part.
Whatever, Loria is to baseball acumen as The Statue of Liberty is to momentum.

Re: Miami Marlins

Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 3:42 am
by TOXIC ASSETS
A poor man's Steinbrenner about sums up Loria.
Bottom line: You can't win (UNLESS you are the Yankees), committing the kind of $$ to one player that they did with Stanton.

Re: Miami Marlins

Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 3:52 am
by Edwards Kings
Reminds me of another "experienced" manager. For most of his first decade as owner of the Braves, Ted Turner was a very hands-on owner. This culminated in his second year as owner, 1977. With the team mired in a 16-game losing streak, Turner sent manager Dave Bristol on a 10-day "scouting trip" and took over as interim manager—the first owner/manager in the majors since Connie Mack. He ran the team for one game (a loss to the Pittsburgh Pirates) before National League president Chub Feeney ordered him to step down. Feeney cited major league rules which bar managers and players from owning stock in their clubs. Turner appealed to Commissioner of Baseball Bowie Kuhn, and showed up to manage the Braves when they returned home. However, Kuhn turned the appeal down, citing Turner's "lack of familiarity with game operations".


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Re: Miami Marlins

Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 8:51 am
by COZ
DOUGHBOYS wrote: He is paying Guillen the last year of his contract. He will be paying Redmond this year and next.
He wasn't going to pay a third Manager.
Bingo. Interesting take, never heard that mentioned by any one, but that's as a good a reason as any I've heard for why Jennings is now managing.

COZ