So What's The Status of Vegas This Year?

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So What's The Status of Vegas This Year?

Post by Baseball Furies » Sun Nov 22, 2015 2:05 pm

Given all that has gone down and is still to go down with DFS and fantasy sports, and also that Nevada has banned DFS with seemingly season long taking the fall along with it, I think it is fair that we all are updated on the status of the NFBC weekends as they now stand for Vegas. It has been posted on the boards that the contracts are signed for the Hilton in NY for that weekend, and we are locked in there despite what the NY Attorney General has ruled. But what's up with Vegas at this point? I have heard that there are no contracts signed for the Bellagio or any other venue at this point due to casinos banning all fantasy sports from their hotels, not just DFS. Is this accurate and what is the plan as of now? Many of us like to plan and book our trips as far in advance as possible in part to get the best airfare and hotel rates, so it would be helpful to know how all of this is looking as of now, and what the alternative plan is going to be if not Vegas. Thanks.
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Re: So What's The Status of Vegas This Year?

Post by DJMDJM » Sun Nov 22, 2015 6:05 pm

Just curious? Is there any reason the draft can not be held in Vegas? Weather or not in is legal in Nevada or not. Drafting is not illegal there, playing is. Reserve the space, and draft. What would be the difference if 12 guys got together there and drafted or 100 get together there and draft?

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Post by Navel Lint » Sun Nov 22, 2015 7:30 pm

Honestly, I would be very surprised if there are any live drafts in Vegas next year, at least not in a casino hotel.

The casino industry is partially behind the push to "ban/regulate/licence" the DFS game. Even if we know our game is different than theirs, I can't imagine the casinos would want to do anything that would promote fantasy leagues in any fashion if they aren't running it.

I also remember the way the casino's rolled-over to the NFL in the blink of an eye when it came to Superbowl parties. One minute they all had parties scheduled, and the next minute they didn't.
They are not interested in doing anything that puts them in jeopardy.
Hosting Live high dollar leagues might not suit their taste at this time.

Just my opinion, but if I were you guys, I'd be booking my flight to Chicago now :D
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Post by MadCow Sez » Sun Nov 22, 2015 7:40 pm

I certainly hope this all is all just noise...I booked my flight/hotel on a discount (this time smart enough to put a travel insurance rider on) and will switch it to accommodate my Feb marathon if necessary.
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Post by Baseball Furies » Sun Nov 22, 2015 8:52 pm

Navel Lint wrote:Honestly, I would be very surprised if there are any live drafts in Vegas next year, at least not in a casino hotel.

The casino industry is partially behind the push to "ban/regulate/licence" the DFS game. Even if we know our game is different than theirs, I can't imagine the casinos would want to do anything that would promote fantasy leagues in any fashion if they aren't running it.

I also remember the way the casino's rolled-over to the NFL in the blink of an eye when it came to Superbowl parties. One minute they all had parties scheduled, and the next minute they didn't.
They are not interested in doing anything that puts them in jeopardy.
Hosting Live high dollar leagues might not suit their taste at this time.

Just my opinion, but if I were you guys, I'd be booking my flight to Chicago now :D
This is EXACTLY the point. As of now, there is absolutely no way that the casinos are going to allow an entity that bills itself as "The National Fantasy Baseball Championship" and the "Only High Stakes Season Long Fantasy Baseball Competition", etc. to be hosted by a casino hotel in Nevada. That being said, there hopefully is a full force effort being made at the moment before it is too late to simply move these events to a convention center in Vegas where no one is going to give a crap about us, which seems to be the tact Greg is taking with the NYC events.

So what's the most current word on all of this, Greg?
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Re: So What's The Status of Vegas This Year?

Post by Doctor Who » Sun Nov 22, 2015 8:54 pm

Guys,

I work for a 5 star hotel in Houston (get with me if ever need a place to stay on a buisness trip :)) I'd place a main event team bet that Vegas will not care if we have drafts there. This is how the hotel industry works in sales of their conference rooms. As long as you aren't doing anything like starting a fire or killing people, or interfering with the people around your conference room, they really could care less on what goes on in them. We go as so much as to hide company names sometimes (oil companies that just laid off people that don't want their name on anything bc are paying us tons of money to host). The hotel's main purpose is to make money and have the conference rooms full every day of the year if possible. Now whether or not there is space because they don't have room is another story, but it won't be because of the DFS bullshit. I can see the runaway train starting to pull out again because of impatience so at the least I'll try to give an insiders view of the hotel industry. If you really wanted to push this, I have come contacts at MGM I could ask to confirm everything else I've already said above.

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Post by Doctor Who » Sun Nov 22, 2015 8:56 pm

Baseball Furies wrote:
Navel Lint wrote:Honestly, I would be very surprised if there are any live drafts in Vegas next year, at least not in a casino hotel.

The casino industry is partially behind the push to "ban/regulate/licence" the DFS game. Even if we know our game is different than theirs, I can't imagine the casinos would want to do anything that would promote fantasy leagues in any fashion if they aren't running it.

I also remember the way the casino's rolled-over to the NFL in the blink of an eye when it came to Superbowl parties. One minute they all had parties scheduled, and the next minute they didn't.
They are not interested in doing anything that puts them in jeopardy.
Hosting Live high dollar leagues might not suit their taste at this time.

Just my opinion, but if I were you guys, I'd be booking my flight to Chicago now :D
This is EXACTLY the point. As of now, there is absolutely no way that the casinos are going to allow an entity that bills itself as "The National Fantasy Baseball Championship" and the "Only High Stakes Season Long Fantasy Baseball Competition", etc. to be hosted by a casino hotel in Nevada. That being said, there hopefully is a full force effort being made at the moment before it is too late to simply move these events to a convention center in Vegas where no one is going to give a crap about us, which seems to be the tact Greg is taking with the NYC events.

So what's the most current word on all of this, Greg?

Mike, if anything that hotel could just post Baseballconference on the door and tell Greg he can't put his signs up (which I doubt they do) if they really were trying to hide it. But they won't push money out the door for the space...

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Post by Baseball Furies » Sun Nov 22, 2015 8:58 pm

Doctor Who wrote:Guys,

I work for a 5 star hotel in Houston (get with me if ever need a place to stay on a buisness trip :)) I'd place a main event team bet that Vegas will not care if we have drafts there. This is how the hotel industry works in sales of their conference rooms. As long as you aren't doing anything like starting a fire or killing people, or interfering with the people around your conference room, they really could care less on what goes on in them. We go as so much as to hide company names sometimes (oil companies that just laid off people that don't want their name on anything bc are paying us tons of money to host). The hotel's main purpose is to make money and have the conference rooms full every day of the year if possible. Now whether or not there is space because they don't have room is another story, but it won't be because of the DFS bullshit. I can see the runaway train starting to pull out again because of impatience so at the least I'll try to give an insiders view of the hotel industry. If you really wanted to push this, I have come contacts at MGM I could ask to confirm everything else I've already said above.
This would be great info to have, but I have to believe that a casino hotel in Nevada works a little differently than a hotel in Houston, Texas. They aren't going to risk it if the Nevada Gaming Commission says no fucking way.
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Post by Doctor Who » Sun Nov 22, 2015 9:02 pm

Baseball Furies wrote:
Doctor Who wrote:Guys,

I work for a 5 star hotel in Houston (get with me if ever need a place to stay on a buisness trip :)) I'd place a main event team bet that Vegas will not care if we have drafts there. This is how the hotel industry works in sales of their conference rooms. As long as you aren't doing anything like starting a fire or killing people, or interfering with the people around your conference room, they really could care less on what goes on in them. We go as so much as to hide company names sometimes (oil companies that just laid off people that don't want their name on anything bc are paying us tons of money to host). The hotel's main purpose is to make money and have the conference rooms full every day of the year if possible. Now whether or not there is space because they don't have room is another story, but it won't be because of the DFS bullshit. I can see the runaway train starting to pull out again because of impatience so at the least I'll try to give an insiders view of the hotel industry. If you really wanted to push this, I have come contacts at MGM I could ask to confirm everything else I've already said above.
This would be great info to have, but I have to believe that a casino hotel in Nevada works a little differently than a hotel in Houston, Texas. They aren't going to risk it if the Nevada Gaming Commission says no fucking way.
Well I did put that main event team bet down? Uh oh illegal Internet gambling now! The Feds will be after me!!! :)

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Post by Greg Ambrosius » Mon Nov 23, 2015 8:21 am

We will be in Las Vegas for both weekends and on the Strip. Common sense has finally prevailed. More details to come once we have finalized contracts.
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Post by KJ Duke » Mon Nov 23, 2015 11:56 am

Greg Ambrosius wrote:We will be in Las Vegas for both weekends and on the Strip. Common sense has finally prevailed. More details to come once we have finalized contracts.
Great news Greg! Look forward to hearing details on how Nevada regulatory views season games. Hope that sets a precedent.

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Post by Baseball Furies » Mon Nov 23, 2015 12:13 pm

KJ Duke wrote:
Greg Ambrosius wrote:We will be in Las Vegas for both weekends and on the Strip. Common sense has finally prevailed. More details to come once we have finalized contracts.
Great news Greg! Look forward to hearing details on how Nevada regulatory views season games. Hope that sets a precedent.
Agreed! Happy to hear this. Looking forward to hearing all the details about everything as soon as possible. :D
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Post by Doctor Who » Mon Nov 23, 2015 9:00 pm

So does this mean I get a free main event team mike? 8-)

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