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The latest on DFS
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 4:12 am
by TOXIC ASSETS
Just saw this article this morning.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politic ... -1.2662320
So it's now become a grab bag for the greedy teachers unions. And they want FanDual and Draft Kings to pay 15% of their profits....that may sound reasonable but what happens if and when every other state wants their 15% cut too? There pretty quickly won't be enough of the pie left....
Re: The latest on DFS
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 6:34 am
by Driver Love
I would love to ask a representative to the teachers union why they are entitled to 15% or any % or a fantasy sports business's profits. It would be fascinating to watch them flounder en route to ultimately dodging the question.
Re: The latest on DFS
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 7:23 am
by Edwards Kings
Driver Love wrote:I would love to ask a representative to the teachers union why they are entitled to 15% or any % or a fantasy sports business's profits. It would be fascinating to watch them flounder en route to ultimately dodging the question.
It is my understanding based on the general union rhetoric is that without what unions were able to (honestly with blood, sweat and sacrifice) wrest from businesses in the first half of the last century by way of workers rights and wages that they feel they have the moral right to any and really all of your excess earnings. After all, without the unions, you would not have it anyway.
Generally the same mind-set as President Obama's administration (and most Democrats I am afraid) who honestly feels it is the Federal Government who is responsible for any business success.
"If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges.
If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet."
President Obama, July 13, 2012 (
accents added)
Re: The latest on DFS
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 11:02 am
by TOXIC ASSETS
That Liz Krueger needs to walk a few hundred laps around Manhattan Island.
These people are the worst of the worst.
If you want to ask for some of the $$ -- ok. How about 1 or 2%, especially from Fanduel since they are based in NYC.
But 15%???? Madness.
Re: The latest on DFS
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 9:43 pm
by COZ
Edwards Kings wrote:Driver Love wrote:I would love to ask a representative to the teachers union why they are entitled to 15% or any % or a fantasy sports business's profits. It would be fascinating to watch them flounder en route to ultimately dodging the question.
It is my understanding based on the general union rhetoric is that without what unions were able to (honestly with blood, sweat and sacrifice) wrest from businesses in the first half of the last century by way of workers rights and wages that they feel they have the moral right to any and really all of your excess earnings. After all, without the unions, you would not have it anyway.
Generally the same mind-set as President Obama's administration (and most Democrats I am afraid) who honestly feels it is the Federal Government who is responsible for any business success.
"If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges.
If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet."
President Obama, July 13, 2012 (
accents added)
Brilliant. That quote, to me, is downright scary. Unfortunately, I also think it is the mindset of many people who expect the government not just to protect for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness but to provide for it to those who scream "I'm a victim," loudest. But now they're not just after the government, they want to hold business' hostage who are successful & make money. How anyone thinks any corporation should have to pay any part of profits to fund schools is absolutely incomprehensible. Seems to me a course in the Federalist papers is in order not just for the millenials but the actual POTUS. Scary stuff.
Re: The latest on DFS
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 9:09 am
by headhunters
no fan of obama- but if ever a quote was taken out of context- it was that one. and just to be clear- government got bigger- much bigger- under reagan. basically- obama- was trying to say that no one gets there on their own. the speech is on the internet. yes- i hate when obama gives money to companies but the repubs gave a lot of $ to growers of corn to make fuel- and that really hasn't worked out to well. i think romney was misquoted or had stuff taken out of context and so did obama- unfortunately that is all the dems and repubs have to offer- worrying about small mistakes in speeches. i think the whole 47% quote cost romney the election- and i think it was taken out of context. time to push the restart button. since we have an accountant and a lawyer commenting- we can start by NOT having the companies pay the auditors- because then they would be independent unlike they are now. as for lawyers- start with the trial lawyers.
Re: The latest on DFS
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 9:10 am
by headhunters
the internet was started at stanford btw- not by al gore.
Re: The latest on DFS
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:27 am
by Edwards Kings
headhunters wrote:no fan of obama- but if ever a quote was taken out of context- it was that one. and just to be clear- government got bigger- much bigger- under reagan. basically- obama- was trying to say that no one gets there on their own. the speech is on the internet. yes- i hate when obama gives money to companies but the repubs gave a lot of $ to growers of corn to make fuel- and that really hasn't worked out to well. i think romney was misquoted or had stuff taken out of context and so did obama- unfortunately that is all the dems and repubs have to offer- worrying about small mistakes in speeches. i think the whole 47% quote cost romney the election- and i think it was taken out of context. time to push the restart button. since we have an accountant and a lawyer commenting- we can start by NOT having the companies pay the auditors- because then they would be independent unlike they are now. as for lawyers- start with the trial lawyers.
We can agree to disagree here my friend. I put the entire section in so that we could see the context. No one has ever thought, said, inferred that we were born complete and that we had no help along the way. Everyone recognizes that we each have had help (parents, teachers, mentors). From the government side, we have trusted our elected officials to act on our behalf at the local, state, and federal level to protect us and provide an environment that would allow each individual to have the best chance to achieve based on our own best abilities and efforts. The "we the people" argument".
Therefore, I think the quote and the inferences were in context. The difference is in who is responsible for and who controls what you are able to make for yourself in that individual effort piece.
President Obama's (and the Democrats) view in general is that all benefit, power, individual accomplishment and ability to make personal decisions flows from an inherent government power in a measure for each individual that the government deems fit. From the government to the people rather than power flowing from people to the government. You only have what you have because the government is responsible for your individual success and that the government allows you to have success therefore the government can redistribute the benefits of that success with impunity. I believe President Obama meant the government when he said "somebody else made that happen." And there are many holding position in government (both sides of the aisle) that have taken the "general welfare" portion of Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution to be carte blanche power to do what the whim of the moment prescribes.
I believe otherwise. I believe I have taken the tools I have been given by the grace of God, learned from my mentors, and I have achieved/earned based on my best efforts. The government, rather than the progenitor, is/should be only one tool that I (or we the people) have created to fulfill a specified need.
"And to the Republic -- A Republic: a sovereign state in which power is invested into the representatives chosen by the people to govern; and the government is the people; and it's from the people to the leaders, not from the leaders to the people."
Red Skelton, "Pledge of Allegiance"