Stuff and Junk...Shortstops
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 10:44 am
Carlos Correa- .262/28/8/32/8
Corey Seager- .283/38/14/35/1
Xander Bogaerts- .345/46/6/33/7
Francisco Lindor- .308/38/6/29/10
There was chat on the Boards during drafting season that Seager, Bogaerts, and Lindor were being taken too high when selected in the fourth and fifth rounds of drafts.
Each of them, outplaying those rounds now.
Expectations for Correa were through the roof. Making him a consensus first round selection this year.
Right now, it would be hard to pinpoint who is outplaying who in this group.
Although we are a 'What have you done for me lately bunch, which gives Seager an edge.
Their owners (except for maybe the high round price for Correa), each happy to have these shortstops rostered.
It should be interesting in following these four as the season progresses.
And even more interesting to see where they are drafted for next year's drafts.
Oh, and three other shortstops have joined the party as well...
Trevor Story- .262/33/16/42/3
Manny Machado- .307/40/15/36/0
Aledmys Diaz- .328/38/8/30/1
Story and Diaz have every chance to tank for the rest of the season. Moreso than the classier shortstops mentioned.
Or, they could keep up their pace.
We don't know.
Their stats have them firmly included with a great shortstop class for next year.
Although Machado owners are probably somewhat happy in drafting Machado in the first round, and then ecstatic with his new found positionality, Machado's numbers fit right in with these other shortstops.
The big zero in stolen bases, a sticking point for Machado owners who were expecting more after pilfering 20 bags last year.
A poor man's group can also be included to the shortstop party.
Eduardo Nunez- .335/27/7/22/12
Marcus Semien- .235/22/11/25/3
Zack Cozart- .303/31/8/22/1
Jonathon Villar- .307.31/5/25/21
Nunez, with more playing time, is showing what possibly he could have done over the years, given an everyday job.
The question for Semien is...
Why does Oakland keep him at the bottom of their lineup?
They are far from an offensive juggernaut.
It is almost as if they make it easier on themselves should Semien's defensive shortcomings become a problem again.
Until moved up in the batting order, Semien remains a sneaky fantasy shortstop, not one that will be selected highly (again).
Cozart is Tulo-lite.
He'll have good numbers, until he has none.
Villar has just been outstanding. He was a free faller in drafts with threats of Arcia being called up to take his job.
Arcia may get the call, but it is Villar who stays in the lineup every day atop the Brewers order.
And you know what?
The great performances by these shortstops and more (Ketel Marte, Brandon Crawford, etc) will mean little to some on draft day.
Troy Tulowitzki will be taken before some of these shortstops.
Some drafters have a hard time erasing yesteryear.
Tulo has not played 130 games in a season since 2011 and won't again this year.
Tulo is the eggshell to the newer shortstops protein rich, yolks and white's.
But will be taken too early (again) in 2017 drafts.
And those drafters probably not questioned, as Bogaerts, Seager, and Lindor drafters were.
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Some shortstop trivia questions....
Xander Bogaerts has become the new Howie Kendrick. When Kendrick came up, almost every 'expert' prediced many, many batting titles,
Now, they're saying the same about Bogaerts. Although it is a little bit of a cheat since these 'experts' didn't start spouting this about Bogaerts till seeing him hit early this year.
Here's the question....
With the required 502 plate appearances needed to win a batting title, when qualifying, how many times did Howie Kendrick hit .300 during his career?
And here's another....
Leaving out Machado, who was not shortstop eligible in 2015, how many of the 10 shortstops can you name that had even 13 homers last year? (a number already surpassed by Machado, Seager, and Story this year)
And one more....
Jonathon Villar already has 21 stolen bases this year.
Last year, only two shortstops had more.
Who were they?
The answers-
In years with the required plate appearances, Kendrick hit .279, .285, .287, .297, .293, and .295
Never .300
The shortstops with 13 homers or more...
1 Carlos Correa- 22
2 Brandon Crawford- 21
3 Jhonny Peralta- 17
3 Stephen Drew- 17
3 Troy Tulowitzki- 17
6 Asdrubal Cabrera-15
6 Marcus Semien- 15
8 Jimmy Rollins- 13
8 Danny Espinosa- 13
8 Addison Russell- 13
Only Elvis Andrus (25) and Jose Reyes (24) had more stolen bases last year, than Villar has this year (21).
Corey Seager- .283/38/14/35/1
Xander Bogaerts- .345/46/6/33/7
Francisco Lindor- .308/38/6/29/10
There was chat on the Boards during drafting season that Seager, Bogaerts, and Lindor were being taken too high when selected in the fourth and fifth rounds of drafts.
Each of them, outplaying those rounds now.
Expectations for Correa were through the roof. Making him a consensus first round selection this year.
Right now, it would be hard to pinpoint who is outplaying who in this group.
Although we are a 'What have you done for me lately bunch, which gives Seager an edge.
Their owners (except for maybe the high round price for Correa), each happy to have these shortstops rostered.
It should be interesting in following these four as the season progresses.
And even more interesting to see where they are drafted for next year's drafts.
Oh, and three other shortstops have joined the party as well...
Trevor Story- .262/33/16/42/3
Manny Machado- .307/40/15/36/0
Aledmys Diaz- .328/38/8/30/1
Story and Diaz have every chance to tank for the rest of the season. Moreso than the classier shortstops mentioned.
Or, they could keep up their pace.
We don't know.
Their stats have them firmly included with a great shortstop class for next year.
Although Machado owners are probably somewhat happy in drafting Machado in the first round, and then ecstatic with his new found positionality, Machado's numbers fit right in with these other shortstops.
The big zero in stolen bases, a sticking point for Machado owners who were expecting more after pilfering 20 bags last year.
A poor man's group can also be included to the shortstop party.
Eduardo Nunez- .335/27/7/22/12
Marcus Semien- .235/22/11/25/3
Zack Cozart- .303/31/8/22/1
Jonathon Villar- .307.31/5/25/21
Nunez, with more playing time, is showing what possibly he could have done over the years, given an everyday job.
The question for Semien is...
Why does Oakland keep him at the bottom of their lineup?
They are far from an offensive juggernaut.
It is almost as if they make it easier on themselves should Semien's defensive shortcomings become a problem again.
Until moved up in the batting order, Semien remains a sneaky fantasy shortstop, not one that will be selected highly (again).
Cozart is Tulo-lite.
He'll have good numbers, until he has none.
Villar has just been outstanding. He was a free faller in drafts with threats of Arcia being called up to take his job.
Arcia may get the call, but it is Villar who stays in the lineup every day atop the Brewers order.
And you know what?
The great performances by these shortstops and more (Ketel Marte, Brandon Crawford, etc) will mean little to some on draft day.
Troy Tulowitzki will be taken before some of these shortstops.
Some drafters have a hard time erasing yesteryear.
Tulo has not played 130 games in a season since 2011 and won't again this year.
Tulo is the eggshell to the newer shortstops protein rich, yolks and white's.
But will be taken too early (again) in 2017 drafts.
And those drafters probably not questioned, as Bogaerts, Seager, and Lindor drafters were.
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Some shortstop trivia questions....
Xander Bogaerts has become the new Howie Kendrick. When Kendrick came up, almost every 'expert' prediced many, many batting titles,
Now, they're saying the same about Bogaerts. Although it is a little bit of a cheat since these 'experts' didn't start spouting this about Bogaerts till seeing him hit early this year.
Here's the question....
With the required 502 plate appearances needed to win a batting title, when qualifying, how many times did Howie Kendrick hit .300 during his career?
And here's another....
Leaving out Machado, who was not shortstop eligible in 2015, how many of the 10 shortstops can you name that had even 13 homers last year? (a number already surpassed by Machado, Seager, and Story this year)
And one more....
Jonathon Villar already has 21 stolen bases this year.
Last year, only two shortstops had more.
Who were they?
The answers-
In years with the required plate appearances, Kendrick hit .279, .285, .287, .297, .293, and .295
Never .300
The shortstops with 13 homers or more...
1 Carlos Correa- 22
2 Brandon Crawford- 21
3 Jhonny Peralta- 17
3 Stephen Drew- 17
3 Troy Tulowitzki- 17
6 Asdrubal Cabrera-15
6 Marcus Semien- 15
8 Jimmy Rollins- 13
8 Danny Espinosa- 13
8 Addison Russell- 13
Only Elvis Andrus (25) and Jose Reyes (24) had more stolen bases last year, than Villar has this year (21).