Super Utility

[fwicker]

Has there been any thought given to making the utility position a super utility position (either hitter or pitcher)? Seems like this would give us one more tactic to mine during the season and especially late season. One objection may be that it's harder for stats to process, but so many sites offer this option I can't imagine it's that difficult.

[Yah Mule]

I have a tough enough time finding nine pitchers I can trust every week.

[ToddZ]

We do this in Tout Wars but instead of the UT we use 4 OF, standard UT and 1 SW (swingman) spot. The impetus is the MLB roster construction has changed since the fantasy game started. It used to be 15H/10P and is now 13H/12P and sometimes even 12H/13P. More often than not the SW is used for a hitter but there are some occasions, some strategic and some out of desperation where a P occupies the SW.

[DOUGHBOYS]

I'd be perfectly happy with a Super U replacing a catcher. It would probably be easier for programmers too.
I know many here like the traditional 2-catchers though.

[Deadheadz]

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This belongs in the thread: "I can't win with the current setups so let's change the rules"

Other topics which belong there:
"Midweek Pitcher Changes"
"Ditch the Win, bring in the QS"
"Use Optimal Scoring for the Main Event"
"Don't count September Stats"


I can't see a problem with any of these being available for private leagues.
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[ToddZ]

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This belongs in the thread: "I can't win with the current setups so let's change the rules"

Other topics which belong there:
"Midweek Pitcher Changes"
"Ditch the Win, bring in the QS"
"Use Optimal Scoring for the Main Event"
"Don't count September Stats"


I can't see a problem with any of these being available for private leagues.
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This post belongs in the trash.

[KJ Duke]

I'd be perfectly happy with a Super U replacing a catcher. It would probably be easier for programmers too.
I know many here like the traditional 2-catchers though.

That second C can be a b**** in the 15's ... exactly why I love it. Like K's in football, don't make it easy for those who just want to focus on the upside, exciting guys.

[DOUGHBOYS]

I'd be perfectly happy with a Super U replacing a catcher. It would probably be easier for programmers too.
I know many here like the traditional 2-catchers though.

That second C can be a b**** in the 15's ... exactly why I love it. Like K's in football, don't make it easy for those who just want to focus on the upside, exciting guys.

Understandable.
I'd like to play both ways, really. I'd love 'em both.
But, that is not feasible.

[ToddZ]

I'd be perfectly happy with a Super U replacing a catcher. It would probably be easier for programmers too.
I know many here like the traditional 2-catchers though.

That second C can be a b**** in the 15's ... exactly why I love it. Like K's in football, don't make it easy for those who just want to focus on the upside, exciting guys.

I've always equated catchers to tight ends, and some football leagues combine WR and TE or give more PPR to TE so there's some parallel to some baseball leagues using one catcher.

You need to rank them against the field then decide if you want the advantage at that spot by taking one early or wait.

Following up on my earlier post, the idea of a super-utility (or swingman) isn't to make things easier. It's to adjust our game to the evolution of the game on which our game is based. There's a difference. And one worth considering.

[Gates]

I'd like to play both ways, really. I'd love 'em both.
But, that is not feasible.[/quote]


Really?!? Both ways??
Sorry, off topic...carry on.

Gaëtan

[ToddZ]

I'd like to play both ways, really. I'd love 'em both.
But, that is not feasible.


Really?!? Both ways??
Sorry, off topic...carry on.

Gaëtan

Okay everyone, let's say it together...

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

[fwicker]

This belongs in the thread: "I can't win with the current setups so let's change the rules"

Other topics which belong there:
"Midweek Pitcher Changes"
"Ditch the Win, bring in the QS"
"Use Optimal Scoring for the Main Event"
"Don't count September Stats"

Inane

[Deadheadz]

We do this in Tout Wars but instead of the UT we use 4 OF, standard UT and 1 SW (swingman) spot. The impetus is the MLB roster construction has changed since the fantasy game started. It used to be 15H/10P and is now 13H/12P and sometimes even 12H/13P. More often than not the SW is used for a hitter but there are some occasions, some strategic and some out of desperation where a P occupies the SW.

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I'm setting my DC lineup for week 25 and I could really use a few more Ks so I can see where an extra pitcher slotted into SW would be a big help for me.
Except for SB there's no ground I can make up with hitters so it wouldn't hurt to lose one by putting a pitcher into SW.

But for the other teams in my league who are fighting for pitcher Ks and positioning in hitting categories they probably can't afford to take a hitter out of SW.

So they'd all have 9 pitchers and I'd have 10 - you think this is fair?
A level playing field?

Sure. It sounds like a cool twist. It sounds like something I'd like to try.
But if the overall prize was won by someone who squeaked into top spot by having a 10th pitcher I think a LOT of managers would be bitching about how it's not fair.

I'll reiterate, it's fine for a private league but a Super Utility position for the standard game seems too revolutionary.

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[ToddZ]

So they'd all have 9 pitchers and I'd have 10 - you think this is fair?
A level playing field?

100% absolutely and completely fair. Everyone is playing by the same rules and had 25 previous weeks to manage their squad with maximum efficiency.

One MLB team is carrying 13H and 12P while the other 12H and 13P. They play and the game goes 17 innings. The first team uses the reserve infielder to pitch in the 17th while the other team still has a reliever, who vultures a win.

Was this fair for the second team to win the game because they opted to carry an extra bullpen arm?

But if the overall prize was won by someone who squeaked into top spot by having a 10th pitcher I think a LOT of managers would be bitching about how it's not fair.

And I think 99.99% of them would congratulate the winner on the clever maneuver to take down the contest.

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