NFBC Message Boards

ROUND 1

1. Mike Trout, OF, LAA
2. Mookie Betts, OF, BOS
3. Ronald Acuna Jr., OF, ATL
4. Jose Ramirez, 3B, CLE
5. Francisco Lindor, SS, CLE
6. Max Scherzer, P, WAS
7. Jose Altuve, 2B, HOU
8. Trea Turner, SS, WAS
9. JD Martinez, OF, BOS
10. Christian Yelich, OF, MIL
11. Javy Baez, 2B, 3B, SS, CHI
12. Alex Bregman, 3B, SS, HOU
13. Nolan Arenado, 3B, COL
14. Manny Machado, SS, FA
15. Bryce Harper, OF, FA


I thought it interesting that the two free agents were selected last in the first round.

One pitcher? Will that be a thing this upcoming year?

No first baseman in sight.

Five Shortstop eligible players in the first round.

Any thoughts?.....

Arenado at 13 jumps out as a great value. But while I probably would have taken him over half of the players that went before him, I can see a case for most of those picks. So maybe that means it will be a wide-open first round?

I believe you're right and it will be wide-open this year, Steve. That is....After Trout/Betts or Betts/Trout.
I had several scenarios going through my mind after those two.
One thing I believe that will be different from last year is the top four pitchers being taken in the first round last year.
There is A LOT of offensive firepower to draft and the pitchers taken high are not THAT much better than those behind them.
At least, that is my take.

ROUND 2

1. Aaron Judge, OF, NYY
2. Chris Sale, P. BOS
3. Jake deGrom, P, NYM
4. Trevor Story, SS, COL
5. Aaron Nola, P, PHI
6. Clayton Kershaw, P, LAD
7. Corey Kluber, P, CLE
8. Giancarlo Stanton, OF, NYY
9. Andrew Benintendi, OF, BOS
10. Charlie Blackmon, OF, COL
11. Blake Snell, P, TAM
12. Freddy Freeman, 1B, ATL
13. Adalberto Mondesi, SS, KC
14. Paul Goldschmidt, 1B. ARI
15. Juan Soto, OF, WAS

Here come the pitchers....6 taken in the second round

Five outfielders, two shortstops, two 1B

NO Catchers.

Altuve and Baez, the only two 2B eligible players taken in the first two rounds.

There have been no huge surprises. Although Paul Goldschmidt being taken so late in the second round could qualify.....

What do you think?......

ROUND 1

1. Mike Trout, OF, LAA
2. Mookie Betts, OF, BOS
3. Ronald Acuna Jr., OF, ATL
4. Jose Ramirez, 3B, CLE
5. Francisco Lindor, SS, CLE
6. Max Scherzer, P, WAS
7. Jose Altuve, 2B, HOU
8. Trea Turner, SS, WAS
9. JD Martinez, OF, BOS
10. Christian Yelich, OF, MIL
11. Javy Baez, 2B, 3B, SS, CHI
12. Alex Bregman, 3B, SS, HOU
13. Nolan Arenado, 3B, COL
14. Manny Machado, SS, FA
15. Bryce Harper, OF, FA




ROUND 2

1. Aaron Judge, OF, NYY
2. Chris Sale, P. BOS
3. Jake deGrom, P, NYM
4. Trevor Story, SS, COL
5. Aaron Nola, P, PHI
6. Clayton Kershaw, P, LAD
7. Corey Kluber, P, CLE
8. Giancarlo Stanton, OF, NYY
9. Andrew Benintendi, OF, BOS
10. Charlie Blackmon, OF, COL
11. Blake Snell, P, TAM
12. Freddy Freeman, 1B, ATL
13. Adalberto Mondesi, SS, KC
14. Paul Goldschmidt, 1B. ARI
15. Juan Soto, OF, WAS

ROUND 3

1. Gleyber Torres, 2B, SS, NYY
2. Justin Verlander, P, HOU
3. Trevor Bauer, P, CLE
4. Gerrit Cole, P, HOU
5. Noah Syndergaard, P, NYM
6. Whit Merrifield, 2B, OF, KC
7. Luis Severino, P, NYY
8. Kris Bryant, 3B, OF, CHI
9. Xander Bogaerts, SS, BOS
10. Gary Sanchez, C, NYY
11. Rhys Hoskins, OF, PHI
12. Carlos Carrasco, P, CLE
13. Starlin Marte, OF, PIT
14. Carlos Correa, SS, HOU
15. Ozzie Albies, 2B, ATL

Correa last 2018 first rounder off the board @ 3/44. Six 2018 second round picks still on the board.

ROUND 1

1. Mike Trout, OF, LAA
2. Mookie Betts, OF, BOS
3. Ronald Acuna Jr., OF, ATL
4. Jose Ramirez, 3B, CLE
5. Francisco Lindor, SS, CLE
6. Max Scherzer, P, WAS
7. Jose Altuve, 2B, HOU
8. Trea Turner, SS, WAS
9. JD Martinez, OF, BOS
10. Christian Yelich, OF, MIL
11. Javy Baez, 2B, 3B, SS, CHI
12. Alex Bregman, 3B, SS, HOU
13. Nolan Arenado, 3B, COL
14. Manny Machado, SS, FA
15. Bryce Harper, OF, FA




ROUND 2

1. Aaron Judge, OF, NYY
2. Chris Sale, P. BOS
3. Jake deGrom, P, NYM
4. Trevor Story, SS, COL
5. Aaron Nola, P, PHI
6. Clayton Kershaw, P, LAD
7. Corey Kluber, P, CLE
8. Giancarlo Stanton, OF, NYY
9. Andrew Benintendi, OF, BOS
10. Charlie Blackmon, OF, COL
11. Blake Snell, P, TAM
12. Freddy Freeman, 1B, ATL
13. Adalberto Mondesi, SS, KC
14. Paul Goldschmidt, 1B. ARI
15. Juan Soto, OF, WAS

ROUND 3

1. Gleyber Torres, 2B, SS, NYY
2. Justin Verlander, P, HOU
3. Trevor Bauer, P, CLE
4. Gerrit Cole, P, HOU
5. Noah Syndergaard, P, NYM
6. Whit Merrifield, 2B, OF, KC
7. Luis Severino, P, NYY
8. Kris Bryant, 3B, OF, CHI
9. Xander Bogaerts, SS, BOS
10. Gary Sanchez, C, NYY
11. Rhys Hoskins, OF, PHI
12. Carlos Carrasco, P, CLE
13. Starlin Marte, OF, PIT
14. Carlos Correa, SS, HOU
15. Ozzie Albies, 2B, ATL

ROUND 4

1. Walker Buehler, P, LAD
2. Anthony Rizzo, 1B, CHI
3. Khris Davis, U, OAK
4. Cody Bellinger, 1B, OF, LAD
5. Vladimir Guerrero Jr., 3B, TOR
6. Edwin Diaz, P, SEA
7. George Springer, OF, HOU
8. Patrick Corbin, P, ARI
9. Anthony Rendon, 3B, WAS
10 Craig Kimbrel, P, BOS
11. Max Muncy, 1B, 3B, LAD
12. Justin Upton, OF, LAA
13. German Marquez, P, COL
14. Stephen Strasburg, P, WAS
15. Blake Treinen, P, OAK

So which team looks the best ??

Maybe Zola or someone could send link to draft grid (without everyone’s names if that’s how it needs to be).

Rizzo over Bryant certainly makes sense. However, you know a lot of us. Why would we want a model of consistency when we have that “upside” that the other guy may go .300-40-120.

Although regarding the shoulder, why is that an issue in 2019? Seemed like several thought Carpenter’s shoulder would be an issue this year, and he finished 3rd in the NL in homers. You’re on solid ground with the 2 down years in a row although obviously the shoulder buried him this year.

Best I can do...

Perfect Todd, I think that is exactly what they're asking for.

Apologies everybody, I got caught up in drafting and going back to Fantasy Camp and didn't update here. Sorry 'bout that.

To me, the biggest surprises of the draft were by the same drafter.
Mondesi in round two was a major surprise.
He showed well in his time up in the Bigs, but man, that is a large leap of faith!

The other was Marquez in the fourth round.
I know, I know, he has the strike out appeal and looked great, especially down the stretch.
But above all, he is a Rockies pitcher.
I don't believe any Rockies hurler has produced statistics worthy of a fourth round.
It should be interesting, both to see if he can return fourth round production and to see if his adp in later drafts holds to near the fourth round.

Let's be real: is there any money on this league? Because some people are drafting like there isn't.

mkieffer wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:35 am

Let's be real: is there any money on this league? Because some people are drafting like there isn't.

Yes, there is.
Which drafters do you disagree with?

This league has an Overall Main Event Winner.
Two or three multiple Main Event winners.
Main Event cashers.
Two or three NFBC Media types.
A drafter who finished in the top 5 Overall in the RotoWire competition this year.
It is stocked with great players...just an fyi

DOUGHBOYS wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:53 am

This league has an Overall Main Event Winner.
Two or three multiple Main Event winners.
Main Event cashers.
Two or three NFBC Media types.
A drafter who finished in the top 5 Overall in the RotoWire competition this year.
It is stocked with great players...just an fyi

Jose Ramirez and Baez will not hold a 1st round value next year. No way no how. Harper in the first round? Why? Other thoughts but those are my first thoughts.

mkieffer wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:01 pm

DOUGHBOYS wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:53 am

This league has an Overall Main Event Winner.
Two or three multiple Main Event winners.
Main Event cashers.
Two or three NFBC Media types.
A drafter who finished in the top 5 Overall in the RotoWire competition this year.
It is stocked with great players...just an fyi

Jose Ramirez and Baez will not hold a 1st round value next year. No way no how. Harper in the first round? Why? Other thoughts but those are my first thoughts.

Opinions are great.
But we like statistics or something more to back up statements.
WHY won't Baez or Ramirez or Harper carry first round production next year?
Who would you have put in the first round instead?

And just a reminder, there were a lot of naysayers (I was one of them) when Ramirez went in the second round last year.
He produced first round numbers this year.

I've gotta go to lunch, but I'll give some of my own thoughts, especially on those three players when getting back.
Thanks for the opinion!

DOUGHBOYS wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:53 am

To me, the biggest surprises of the draft were by the same drafter.
Mondesi in round two was a major surprise.
He showed well in his time up in the Bigs, but man, that is a large leap of faith!

The other was Marquez in the fourth round.
I know, I know, he has the strike out appeal and looked great, especially down the stretch.
But above all, he is a Rockies pitcher.
I don't believe any Rockies hurler has produced statistics worthy of a fourth round.
It should be interesting, both to see if he can return fourth round production and to see if his adp in later drafts holds to near the fourth round.

I just took Mondesi at the 5-6 turn and Marquez at the 6-7 turn (first Fantrax 50). Happy to have them both at those slots. But there is a comparison, anyway.

Capt. Crunch wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:43 pm

DOUGHBOYS wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:53 am

To me, the biggest surprises of the draft were by the same drafter.
Mondesi in round two was a major surprise.
He showed well in his time up in the Bigs, but man, that is a large leap of faith!

The other was Marquez in the fourth round.
I know, I know, he has the strike out appeal and looked great, especially down the stretch.
But above all, he is a Rockies pitcher.
I don't believe any Rockies hurler has produced statistics worthy of a fourth round.
It should be interesting, both to see if he can return fourth round production and to see if his adp in later drafts holds to near the fourth round.

I just took Mondesi at the 5-6 turn and Marquez at the 6-7 turn (first Fantrax 50). Happy to have them both at those slots. But there is a comparison, anyway.

good man dorian fortune favors the bold dough.

mkieffer wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:01 pm

DOUGHBOYS wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:53 am

This league has an Overall Main Event Winner.
Two or three multiple Main Event winners.
Main Event cashers.
Two or three NFBC Media types.
A drafter who finished in the top 5 Overall in the RotoWire competition this year.
It is stocked with great players...just an fyi

Jose Ramirez and Baez will not hold a 1st round value next year. No way no how. Harper in the first round? Why? Other thoughts but those are my first thoughts.

No way Jose Ramirez returns first round value? Honestly, I'm surprised there is criticism of taking Ramirez at 1.4; would think Acuna at 1.3 would be the far more controversial early pick. I'm not in this draft, and can understand some uncertainty or ambivalence about Harper and Baez as first round picks. You probably could make arguments for and against them going in the first or the second round. Won't be able to decide that myself without further analysis. While there is no way of knowing for sure how players will perform in 2019, Ramirez seems like a super-solid first round pick to me.

Stats? Here are a few:

2016: 11 HR, 84 R, 76 RBI, 22 SB, .312 BA.
2017: 29 HR, 107 R, 83 RBI, 17 SB, .318 BA.
2018: 39 HR, 110 R, 106 RBI, 34 SB, .272 BA.

While Ramirez did finish the season cold, and did nothing in a short, three-game playoff series, the guy is a fantasy stud. Five-category goodness personified. 39 HR and 34 SB. 216 combined R and RBI. I'll take that in a heartbeat to begin a team. I also like that the guy has been very healthy/durable, easily could qualify at 2B in addition to 3B depending on how the Indians handle their infield next year, and, oh by the way, guy is only 26 years old. Just my $0.02, but I seriously doubt he will slip past the first half of the first round in any draft.

Mike

Ramirez will go in the first round of EVERY NFBC draft. It's as simple as that. Drafting at 15 and seeing Trout, Betts, Lindor, or Ramirez still available just plain won't happen unless some off/season crisis arises.
Ramirez is a 30-30 player, building off a 29/17 season. To squawk about Ramirez being taken in the first round is clearly barking up a wrong tree.

Baez and Harper will be in a lot of first and second rounds. Both are bolder picks than Ramirez.
Both have Missouri/Missouri problems. Neither have showed drafters twice that they are first round material.
With Baez, drafters are looking at his power/speed combo. Myself, I believe that we have not touched the seasonal highs that we will see from him over his career. I'm impressed that he hit .260 every month of the season. Consistency is usually the last thing we see from sluggers like Baez.
In a year that saw the wind blow in more often than not at Wrigley, Baez hit .270 at home and a whopping .310 on the road.
Only 13 of his 34 homers came at the Friendly Confines. He can do better when the winds shift.
When combining that with 2B, 3B, and SS eligibility, he makes for a good pick.

Harper is different. There is hardly a more hyped player in baseball than Harper. Because of all this hype, we see Harper as being somewhat of a failure except for his big year in 2015.
Even in a 'bad' year, Harper still returns pretty good numbers. I agree that except for 2015, they haven't been first round numbers.
Still, there is good reasoning for taking Harper in the first round.
If having his big year, it will, indeed, be HUGE.
I believe that is what his drafters are aiming for when taking Harper.
None of us really know if it will come next year or not. But I can't criticize a drafter for picking him on the chance that it is another breakout season.

In my mind, Ramirez, Baez, and Harper are fine first round picks.
But then again, this is October and were 12 months from knowing the truth.
Until then, we're all right in our opinions.