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Re: Open Chat With Greg, Tom & Darik

Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 5:45 am
by mdecav
Gekko wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 4:07 pm
Gekko wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:31 pm
Southern Comfort wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 1:53 pm

You can tell an owner "well he always injured you should not have drafted him" you cannot say "well you should have known that DeGrom you paid $40 for is now gonna throw the same innings and get the same wins as........Rich Hill lmao".
i only drafted 3 leagues this offseason, my lowest number by far. i have rich hill on all 3 teams. degrom on zero ;)
Rich Hill (elbow) said Friday that he expects to be ready whenever the 2020 season begins.
Rich Hill? What’s he, like 45? I could hit him.

https://youtu.be/Wr2C1O-EvcI

Re: Open Chat With Greg, Tom & Darik

Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 8:04 am
by Gekko
mdecav wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 5:45 am
Gekko wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 4:07 pm
Gekko wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:31 pm


i only drafted 3 leagues this offseason, my lowest number by far. i have rich hill on all 3 teams. degrom on zero ;)
Rich Hill (elbow) said Friday that he expects to be ready whenever the 2020 season begins.
Rich Hill? What’s he, like 45? I could hit him.

https://youtu.be/Wr2C1O-EvcI
Hill is old and crusty. Music will stop soon

Re: Open Chat With Greg, Tom & Darik

Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 1:23 pm
by Deadheadz
Devil’s advocate here...

When MLB decides on the number of games in the 2020 season and NFBC bases the Minimum Innings Pitched threshold for their games, can we be confident that number is set in stone?

For example the numbers might be 82 game season and 500 IP.

If there’s a second wave of COVID, and MLB ends the season after roughly 60 games (some teams playing >60 while others perhaps 60 or fewer) does the minimum IP threshold get pro-rated again?

Drilling down deeper with a different example, let’s say MLB does play the full 82 game season but due to expanded rosters (we hear proposals like 30 + 20 man taxi squad) the Managers of the majority of MLB teams lean toward the Rays model with an Opener followed by a Primary pitcher for 3-4 innings.

Sure, it’s likely the workhorse Aces will pile up the innings but let’s say for arguments sake a LOT of managers make decisions that results in the majority of fantasy teams falling short of the pro rated 500 IP minimum.

Will we see one or two teams per league with full Roto points in the ratio categories while 9+ teams by rule have 1 Roto point? I believe that’s how it _should_ be but something tells me if there’s a majority of fantasy teams ending the season without reaching the minimum, we will see the message board flooded with comments from team owners who feel it isn’t fair and asking for ex post facto rule changes.

I hope none of that happens but while we have the time to discuss it, the issue bears some consideration.

Re: Open Chat With Greg, Tom & Darik

Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 8:31 am
by Greg Ambrosius
Yes, we'll announce a percentage of games played that makes the NFBC official. 50% seems logical and everyone hopes the full "new" season can be played.

We will also have to announce a percentage of minimum innings pitched needed as well. That will be lower than the percentage above because nobody can plan exactly that number during the season. But yes, all will have to be covered legally to spell out the new parameters when the season starts.

Re: Open Chat With Greg, Tom & Darik

Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 8:13 am
by Greg Ambrosius
Here's a good opinion piece by USA Today's Bob Nightengale. This is a critical week to 10 days in order to get a deal done. Let's hope it happens.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/m ... 229277002/

NBA definitely looking to return and finish its season:

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/292 ... ers-return

Re: Open Chat With Greg, Tom & Darik

Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 5:05 pm
by Steel Lugnuts
Hopefully no news is good news and they are working behind closed doors to get a deal done, sick of the constant leaks and negotiations through the media.

Re: Open Chat With Greg, Tom & Darik

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 8:42 pm
by Wolfpac
We finally look to have some movement, let’s see what owners say.

Re: Open Chat With Greg, Tom & Darik

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:20 am
by Greg Ambrosius
This is the week that is going to decide whether we have a baseball season in 2020 or not. Will the owners just flatly reject the Players Association's latest proposal or will we have honest back-and-forth negotiations for the next 5 days?

Here's the latest proposal from MLBPA:

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/292 ... oposal-mlb

I like the extended regular season through October and 114 games. I understand there is a risk of a second wave, but who said the second wave is specifically hitting the month of November? If we can keep the players and their families safe for four months then fewer teams can be kept safe for another month, I'd think.

And would there really have to be ZERO fans for all 114 games and the playoffs? I'm seeing restaurants around here with 25-50% capacity still reaching those goals and you'd think SOME fans could attend games. Assigned seating with enough spacing could certainly allow SOME fans at games, you'd think.

Anyway, I know the owners want fewer games, but if the players are willing to take the health risk then this is a proposal that deserves an honest counter-proposal. Let's see what comes back from the owners.

MLB CAN'T -- it just CAN'T -- postpone the season over monetary issues. Safety issues, yes. Monetary issues, NO. Figure it out. Let's figure this out.

Hold on everyone. We'll know more this week, but hopefully we can have a robust regular season yet and one that will bring some joy during these dark, dark times. Fingers crossed here.

Re: Open Chat With Greg, Tom & Darik

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:18 am
by Yankees2009
Unfortunately, MLB owners are greedy pigs, with a rubber stamp commissioner. If they REALLY cared about the fans , they wouldn't have dragged their feet like they did, and then retract their initial proposal.
The players are willing to play, and are chomping at the bit to do so. Hope your prayers are answered, but honestly, I have little faith in the billionaire owners.
No, there doesn't have to be, and shouldn't be zero fans, but reason and common sense plays no role it seems.
114 games would be awesome, but it shouldn't take another week of negotiations to accept the MLBPA's proposal, or even slightly tweak it. I miss the doubleheaders of my youth. I'm with Ernie Banks on that.

Re: Open Chat With Greg, Tom & Darik

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:35 am
by Greg Ambrosius
Yankees2009 wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:18 am
Unfortunately, MLB owners are greedy pigs, with a rubber stamp commissioner. If they REALLY cared about the fans , they wouldn't have dragged their feet like they did, and then retract their initial proposal.
The players are willing to play, and are chomping at the bit to do so. Hope your prayers are answered, but honestly, I have little faith in the billionaire owners.
No, there doesn't have to be, and shouldn't be zero fans, but reason and common sense plays no role it seems.
114 games would be awesome, but it shouldn't take another week of negotiations to accept the MLBPA's proposal, or even slightly tweak it. I miss the doubleheaders of my youth. I'm with Ernie Banks on that.
Here's why I think a deal will be figured out: If they blow this season up over financial reasons there is no way in hell that they will agree to a deal next season, when coronavirus will still be around and stadiums won't be full with fans. And then the CBA ends after the 2021 season, so this could lead to a player's strike in 2022.

Are the owners really willing to blow up the entire sport by ending the 2020 season? Because if there is no baseball in 2020 and it's because they couldn't reach a financial deal, then I don't see how they reach a financial deal before 2021. And then I don't see ANY WAY that the CBA is negotiated before 2022. We are looking at the future of baseball with this upcoming agreement.

It's going to be a VERY IMPORTANT next 7-10 days folks. Keep your fingers crossed that smart decisions are made.

Re: Open Chat With Greg, Tom & Darik

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:45 am
by mdecav
What if...

About 15% of players including many stars, decide not to play this year.

Is it fair to have the DCs (and the other drafts) play given that fact?

Re: Open Chat With Greg, Tom & Darik

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 4:01 pm
by Deadheadz
mdecav wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:45 am
What if...

About 15% of players including many stars, decide not to play this year.

Is it fair to have the DCs (and the other drafts) play given that fact?
And “what if” the MLBPA rejects the final offer from the league and MLB decides to play a on their terms a season with minor leaguers?

We can “what if” all day but it’s wasted time and thought until we see what happens.