Coronavirus NFBC Travel

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Coronavirus NFBC Travel

Post by fwicker » Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:44 pm

I hate to be an alarmist but with the latest case here in California with no known origin we may be facing a serious medical crisis that could affect domestic travel.

Just wondering if NFBC has a plan B for Main Events, etc, if travel is restricted or inadvisable?

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Re: Coronavirus NFBC Travel

Post by mdecav » Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:59 pm

For drafts it’s less of an issue given they can be live/online. Auctions are another matter.

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Re: Coronavirus NFBC Travel

Post by Ultrarunner » Thu Feb 27, 2020 3:27 pm

Auctions can be done online. You just have to listen to Greg’s voice “going once, going twice, sold”

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Re: Coronavirus NFBC Travel

Post by mdecav » Thu Feb 27, 2020 4:21 pm

Ultrarunner wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 3:27 pm
Auctions can be done online. You just have to listen to Greg’s voice “going once, going twice, sold”
An issue could be if you’re at the live events doing both in one day, you have to have a laptop with you if the auction goes online.

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Re: Coronavirus NFBC Travel

Post by Gekko » Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:35 pm

fwicker wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:44 pm
I hate to be an alarmist but with the latest case here in California with no known origin we may be facing a serious medical crisis that could affect domestic travel.

Just wondering if NFBC has a plan B for Main Events, etc, if travel is restricted or inadvisable?

Thanks
1. You are not an alarmist.
2. Personally, I trying to be open-minded and wait as long as possible in hopes of “promising info” on this front; however in the end I will be weighing the risk of infection to me (and more so my loved ones) as to if i decide to change my NFBC travel plans (and do everything online or via phone). There are many unknowns at this point and forgive me for not trusting what our government is telling us at this point.
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Re: Coronavirus NFBC Travel

Post by King of Queens » Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:45 pm

No worries. There will be plenty of Coronas available in Vegas. :lol:

Let's see what happens and hope for the best. If the worst case happens, I trust that Greg, Tom and Darik will handle things properly.

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Re: Coronavirus NFBC Travel

Post by Gekko » Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:49 pm

King of Queens wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:45 pm
No worries. There will be plenty of Coronas available in Vegas. :lol:

Let's see what happens and hope for the best. If the worst case happens, I trust that Greg, Tom and Darik will handle things properly.
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Post by Edwards Kings » Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:17 pm

Unless Delta grounds all domestic flights. I will be there. Period.

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Post by Edwards Kings » Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:19 pm

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Re: Coronavirus NFBC Travel

Post by RobG » Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:24 am

Gekko wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:49 pm
King of Queens wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:45 pm
No worries. There will be plenty of Coronas available in Vegas. :lol:

Let's see what happens and hope for the best. If the worst case happens, I trust that Greg, Tom and Darik will handle things properly.
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Re: Coronavirus NFBC Travel

Post by Baseball Furies » Fri Feb 28, 2020 2:08 am

Coronavirus?! Seriously?! I had what amounted to fucking tuberculosis last year in NY, and everyone survived including me. You have a better chance of contracting and dying from the flu in the next few weeks. And yes, the government is telling us all a lot less on this than we need to know for the very reason of putting fear into people about not travelling anywhere for live fantasy baseball events such as these. :shock: So my advice to anyone reading this bullshit is get your sleep, pop plenty of vitamin C, and SUCK IT UP! :P :twisted: Ebola, SARS, and the Bird Flu combined couldn't keep me away from the live events in NY and Vegas. 8-) See everyone soon!

Unless you're dead from the Coronavirus in which case I won't see you. :lol:
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Re: Coronavirus NFBC Travel

Post by Yah Mule » Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:07 pm

Baseball Furies wrote:
Fri Feb 28, 2020 2:08 am
Coronavirus?! You have a better chance of contracting and dying from the flu in the next few weeks.
Repeating the comments of Putin's ball-licker is irresponsible, Mike. Early estimates say Covid-19 is ten to 20 times more lethal than the flu and its communicability is still not clear.

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Re: Coronavirus NFBC Travel

Post by mdecav » Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:20 pm

Yah Mule wrote:
Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:07 pm
Baseball Furies wrote:
Fri Feb 28, 2020 2:08 am
Coronavirus?! You have a better chance of contracting and dying from the flu in the next few weeks.
Repeating the comments of Putin's ball-licker is irresponsible, Mike. Early estimates say Covid-19 is ten to 20 times more lethal than the flu and its communicability is still not clear.
20 times more severe, but a lower probability of catching it. That’s not to say what Agent Orange said was accurate.

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Re: Coronavirus NFBC Travel

Post by Sack » Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:57 pm

I feel much better that MTM won't let anything stand in his way of making it out
to Vegas. Sure improves the odds of cashing, if you can find a MTM League! ;)

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Re: Coronavirus NFBC Travel

Post by KJ Duke » Fri Feb 28, 2020 3:30 pm

The fear is way out ahead of reality at this point, but travel is being heavily impacted globally including many cancelled events and conferences.

As cases increase here it will be interesting to see how US companies/citizens respond, especially in foreign traveler-heavy cities like NY and LV.

It could snowball --- even with serious illness/death risks likely ending up far less alarming than has reported so far out of China (reported death rates so far ~2%, but could ultimately be closer to 0.1%-0.2%, and mostly among the old and/or previously sick).

With Vegas being a primary travel spot, there should be a backup on standby. On a more positive note, room rates could be dropping a lot in the next few weeks.

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Re: Coronavirus NFBC Travel

Post by Edwards Kings » Fri Feb 28, 2020 9:10 pm

Per the CDC, in the five weeks since January 21st, a total of 15 cases of COVID-19 have been confirmed or are presumptive positive cases in the United States (12 travel and 3 person-to-person). The eighth case in the US was reported by February 1st, so there have been seven in the last four weeks. The travel embargo has also been in place for four weeks and the quarantine period in two weeks.

In short, not exactly the numbers that will cause massive domestic travel interruptions.
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Re: Coronavirus NFBC Travel

Post by rickerbockerNFBC » Sat Feb 29, 2020 12:39 pm

I know I'm not the smartest person on the boards, but is my ignorance or are the numbers being reported not adding up for anyone else?
The virus is known to live for 2 weeks, has been around for 3 months, it's highly contagious, and less than 100k of the population has been diagnosed with it. Based on how humans travel the world in 2020, I would think the number of infected in 7 digits, maybe even 8 digits based on what we're being told. Am I wrong? Or is it possible that humans have overreacted again for the 89,988,982,219,219th time in our existence?

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Post by Gekko » Sat Feb 29, 2020 2:11 pm

rickerbockerNFBC wrote:
Sat Feb 29, 2020 12:39 pm
I know I'm not the smartest person on the boards, but is my ignorance or are the numbers being reported not adding up for anyone else?
The virus is known to live for 2 weeks, has been around for 3 months, it's highly contagious, and less than 100k of the population has been diagnosed with it. Based on how humans travel the world in 2020, I would think the number of infected in 7 digits, maybe even 8 digits based on what we're being told. Am I wrong? Or is it possible that humans have overreacted again for the 89,988,982,219,219th time in our existence?
"less than 100k of the population has been diagnosed with it"... that does not mean less than 100K of the population has it. likely far more; however testing could be limited, faulty or simply not being done. that would keep the "diagnosed" number down.

could everyone be overreacting? maybe; however with an estimated kill rate of close to 2% at present time, this appears 10-20 times more deadly than the flu, assuming you get infected. it's hard to trust what governments/people are saying, because they do not want to create a panic. i think it's important to observe the actions they are taking. locking down cities, cancelling school, restricting air travel, cancelling events, isolating people. those are not actions i would consider consistent with handling a virus with a kill rate similar to that of the flu (~0.1%).

for me, with all of the current unknowns, the est high kill rate, and family members at greater risk, i simply won't put myself in higher risk situations. i've temporary stopped going to the gym, movies and eating out. hopefully the news will get better soon, and i can get back to typical activities.

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Re: Coronavirus NFBC Travel

Post by DOUGHBOYS » Sat Feb 29, 2020 2:35 pm

It comes down to our own personal decisions.
For those choosing not to attend live events, I'm sure the NFBC will create Main Event leagues for that time slot online. Hopefully, the same for the other drafts that are live as well.
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Post by rickerbockerNFBC » Sat Feb 29, 2020 3:43 pm

"less than 100k of the population has been diagnosed with it"... that does not mean less than 100K of the population has it. likely far more; however testing could be limited, faulty or simply not being done. that would keep the "diagnosed" number down.


That's kind of my point when I said the numbers aren't adding up. If the number of people actually infected is much higher, then the death rate is much, much, much lower. Something isn't correct with the numbers is all I'm saying.

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Re: Coronavirus NFBC Travel

Post by Gekko » Sat Feb 29, 2020 4:07 pm

rickerbockerNFBC wrote:
Sat Feb 29, 2020 3:43 pm
"less than 100k of the population has been diagnosed with it"... that does not mean less than 100K of the population has it. likely far more; however testing could be limited, faulty or simply not being done. that would keep the "diagnosed" number down.

That's kind of my point when I said the numbers aren't adding up. If the number of people actually infected is much higher, then the death rate is much, much, much lower. Something isn't correct with the numbers is all I'm saying.
if someone who was not tested for coronavirus passes away because of what seems to be "pneumonia", are they running a coronavirus test on them postmortem?

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Re: Coronavirus NFBC Travel

Post by rickerbockerNFBC » Sat Feb 29, 2020 4:20 pm

Gekko wrote:
Sat Feb 29, 2020 4:07 pm
rickerbockerNFBC wrote:
Sat Feb 29, 2020 3:43 pm
"less than 100k of the population has been diagnosed with it"... that does not mean less than 100K of the population has it. likely far more; however testing could be limited, faulty or simply not being done. that would keep the "diagnosed" number down.

That's kind of my point when I said the numbers aren't adding up. If the number of people actually infected is much higher, then the death rate is much, much, much lower. Something isn't correct with the numbers is all I'm saying.
if someone who was not tested for coronavirus passes away because of pneumonia, are they running a coronavirus test on them postmortem?
Probably not, but has there been a spike in pneumonia cases in the last 3 months? Again, the numbers aren't adding up. I'm not saying to ignore this. I'm not saying this isn't going to a problem. I'm not saying this won't get much worse. All I'm saying is that the numbers aren't adding up.

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Re: Coronavirus NFBC Travel

Post by Gekko » Sat Feb 29, 2020 4:34 pm

rickerbockerNFBC wrote:
Sat Feb 29, 2020 4:20 pm
Gekko wrote:
Sat Feb 29, 2020 4:07 pm
rickerbockerNFBC wrote:
Sat Feb 29, 2020 3:43 pm
"less than 100k of the population has been diagnosed with it"... that does not mean less than 100K of the population has it. likely far more; however testing could be limited, faulty or simply not being done. that would keep the "diagnosed" number down.

That's kind of my point when I said the numbers aren't adding up. If the number of people actually infected is much higher, then the death rate is much, much, much lower. Something isn't correct with the numbers is all I'm saying.
if someone who was not tested for coronavirus passes away because of pneumonia, are they running a coronavirus test on them postmortem?
Probably not, but has there been a spike in pneumonia cases in the last 3 months? Again, the numbers aren't adding up. I'm not saying to ignore this. I'm not saying this isn't going to a problem. I'm not saying this won't get much worse. All I'm saying is that the numbers aren't adding up.
yup, lots of unknowns. another way of looking at the numbers:
86,033 Coronavirus Cases with 43,287 of them still being ACTIVE CASES

Of the 42,746 CLOSED CASES:
***39,804 (93%) Recovered / Discharged
***2,942 (7%) Deaths

7% of outcomes are deaths?!?

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

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Re: Coronavirus NFBC Travel

Post by Yah Mule » Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:26 pm

DOUGHBOYS wrote:
Sat Feb 29, 2020 2:35 pm
It comes down to our own personal decisions.
For those choosing not to attend live events, I'm sure the NFBC will create Main Event leagues for that time slot online. Hopefully, the same for the other drafts that are live as well.
All we can do is hope for the best and expect the worst.
I'm in the $2500 Auction and I'll participate if I have to drive through the Rocky Mountains to get there. I will also accept an online alternative without complaint if that's what's decided. I'm strongly leaning towards driving regardless of the developments of the next three weeks. I don't think taking precautions during a situation with this many unknown factors is overreacting. Getting on an airplane in Las Vegas isn't something I'm 100% comfortable with right now and I flew eight days after 9/11.

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Re: Coronavirus NFBC Travel

Post by KJ Duke » Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:31 pm

Testing in the US is very limited, and non-existent in most States. Cases therefore are much higher right now than reported - and death rates much lower - but it is beyond the typical flu as those affected have shown more severe symptoms requiring intensive treatment.

I believe this will become a progressively bigger story as it is able to spread in the US relatively undetected for now outside of travelers coming directly from China - thus the # of US cases is likely to grow meaningfully over weeks/months. By mid-late March the level of concern will be greater than today.

It also is a serious threat to the economy - supply chains already are massively disrupted in many industries, and the previously unstoppable US service economy is now vulnerable to reduced travel, transport and retail, which ultimately will start to show in employment numbers. The manufacturing economy already was flat-lining from reduced Int'l trade. The Fed, at some point soon, will come to the rescue which will boost markets but do little for the economy other than slow an even greater downward spiral should they allow the market to keep declining with no intervention.

I'd also expect the DNC to jump all over this as an opportunity to damage the Trump administration by playing up the fear and hoping to derail the economy as soon as possible. A recession is their best chance of winning in November, and it needs to start soon to be evident in the numbers by election time.

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