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why does everyone have to wait now in order to pick up minor leaguers? i think it takes alot out of the contest. If you want to pick up and stash away a player you feel is coming in the summer at the start or during the year, you should be able to do that no? its part of forecasting fantasy baseball. This is the way it used to be in the nfbc. Why did it change? If teams want to stash their reserves with minor leaguers who may be called up then so be it. Its an important part of fantasy baseball. No other league i know of puts restrictions on who you can pick up. I think we should x the 40 man roster thing and go back to the way it was. Letting everyone have a shot at bidding on each player as they come up takes away a little for me. Does anyone agree? artie

Good Luck everyone and have a good holiday.

by the way, the 45 round draft champions league is great. it was really fun drafting that. having no pickups for the entire year really makes you earn your money. no luck. The nfbc main event should be like that. artie

Originally posted by triple a:

why does everyone have to wait now in order to pick up minor leaguers? i think it takes alot out of the contest. If you want to pick up and stash away a player you feel is coming in the summer at the start or during the year, you should be able to do that no? its part of forecasting fantasy baseball. This is the way it used to be in the nfbc. Why did it change? If teams want to stash their reserves with minor leaguers who may be called up then so be it. Its an important part of fantasy baseball. No other league i know of puts restrictions on who you can pick up. I think we should x the 40 man roster thing and go back to the way it was. Letting everyone have a shot at bidding on each player as they come up takes away a little for me. Does anyone agree? artie

Good Luck everyone and have a good holiday. Artie, just a factual correction. The NFBC did NOT allow minor-league free agent pickups previously. The current format was like this in 2004 when you won the $100,000 as well. If a minor-leaguer was not originally drafted in your league he has NEVER been available to be picked up via free agency. I just want everyone to see the correct facts on that.



Why do we do it that way? To give everyone a fair shot at a prospect when they are called up, thus giving FAAB more significance during the season. We all know how important picking up free agents during the season has been and I've felt that by allowing everyone a chance to pick up hot prospects who were just called up gives everyone a fair shot at that player. Yes, they would have the same shot at that player if they wanted to reserve them for several weeks, but we've chosen not to do that. If you really wanted a prospect bad enough, you have every right to draft that player and reserve him until he gets called up.



That's our reasoning. It might not be right and I'll gladly listen to the other side of the story.



As for changing the main event to a 45-round Draft Champions format??? I'll let others comment on that.

I certainly don't agree, and I have never won a dime in the 2 years I have already played.



It's a nice idea when you know for a fact that >90% of those in the league/competition are what many would call "professionals". What determines who is a "professional" isn't as important as what makes up the remaining people in the competition. I may be off +-5% but I believe the annual retention rate is around 65%. So you have roughly 35% being "newbies". I am also guessing that about 20%, whether they know or not, have no chance of ever winning a dime but come back year after year. I would guess that some these just enjoy playing anyway and the rest think they still have a chance.



Now let's suppose that 20% can be called professionals. Depending on peoples' definitions, this could probably increase or decrease 5%. So what's that leave us? About 25% whom "still believe" and quite arguably have a chance to win some money.



Now my point: the more rule changes that create a bigger and bigger gap between professionals and the rest of the competition, the more likely the retention rate will drop year after year. Now I am sure in some cases an expanded roster or minor legaue opportunties may help some, but a majorirty of the non-professionals it will not. One could even argue such changes in rules would even deter some from joining because they would realize the additoonal depth, thus time, required to win this thing.



Whether it is fact or perception, it's important that a majority of people in a large competition like this believe they can win. But heh, small leagues like the 40 roster thing, is good. It's growth will really dictate how good of an idea it is and how big it can become. Consider them incubators!

And for the record, most advanced leagues not only require the player to be on a MLB 25-man roster when picked up, they require you have the new player ACTIVE that first week.

I play in an 18 team league with 36 player rosters and the free agent pool is thin. Last week Justin Upton was among the pickups.



I stashed a 31st player by drafting and dropping a minor leaguer, that I hope to reacquire before he reachs the bigs.

Originally posted by triple a:

why does everyone have to wait now in order to pick up minor leaguers? i think it takes alot out of the contest. If you want to pick up and stash away a player you feel is coming in the summer at the start or during the year, you should be able to do that no? its part of forecasting fantasy baseball. This is the way it used to be in the nfbc. Why did it change? If teams want to stash their reserves with minor leaguers who may be called up then so be it. Its an important part of fantasy baseball. No other league i know of puts restrictions on who you can pick up. I think we should x the 40 man roster thing and go back to the way it was. Letting everyone have a shot at bidding on each player as they come up takes away a little for me. Does anyone agree? artie

Good Luck everyone and have a good holiday.

I tend to agree with AAA. I know we've had these posts before. I'm just satellite this year, but with an eye on the Main Event next year, I don't see the difference between drafting him inmitially, or picking him up a week or a month later. Everyone will still have the opportunity to do it.



Additionally, if say a Lincecum is available and earning points in one league, shouldn't he be available to everyone competing?



As stated a few posts above, the loophole around it is to draft someone, cut him, and wait until later. Achieves the same thing.



Just my 2 cents.

Originally posted by Atlas:

Additionally, if say a Lincecum is available and earning points in one league, shouldn't he be available to everyone competing?

Is anybody else dumbfounded by this statement? Just curious, was he earning points in one league from his minor league numbers?

Originally posted by GOD Loves You:

quote:Originally posted by Atlas:

Additionally, if say a Lincecum is available and earning points in one league, shouldn't he be available to everyone competing?

Is anybody else dumbfounded by this statement? Just curious, was he earning points in one league from his minor league numbers? [/QUOTE]well there could be a couple instances where he earns pts for one team (where he's reserved) before others can pick him up.

1. he's called up late sunday/monday and starts that week. He's then activated from the team's reserve roster on monday

2. He can be swapped into a lineup for a DL'd pitcher if called up later in the week



in both these cases those teams will have a start or two head start over the rest of the league before they have the chance to bid on him.



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Sorry GLY, I thought that scenerio would be obviuos to everyone.



Frnakly, I'm dumfounded that you didn't catch on.

Technically, if you had Lincecum on your roster and he was to start on Mon.,Tues,....etc. you could enter him in your starting lineup before the Monday deadline and get his stats that week before he becomes eligible to all other leagues the following Sunday night. However it would only be 1 week of stats but for a batter that could be 4-5 HR's. Unlikely yes, but it could happen.

Thank you and hae a nice day.

And my typing sucks!

Originally posted by Atlas:

Sorry GLY, I thought that scenerio would be obviuos to everyone.



Frnakly, I'm dumfounded that you didn't catch on. I assumed what you were talking about but never figured someone would make a big deal about teams having a player only one week before others.

BTW, every owner in every league had a chance to acquire him via the draft so no one can complain about the potential 4.1 innings they missed out on. I thought THAT scenario would be obvious to everyone.



Now you could've been an idiot like me and dropped him due to injuries on my team. I'm already leading in WHIP, ERA, & K's sooo needless to say, I'm not to happy about what I did, considering I was outbid on him 2 weeks later by a few $$$!

Again I was only using him as an example.

It could very well have been 2 starts that accumulated 2 wins and perhaps 15-20K's and a decent ERA & WHIP drop.



Your right 4.1 innings is probably not going to make a difference. But if it occurred 2 or 3 times, I don't know, is that enough to make a difference? My first year in the NFBC so I'm still feeling my way around. I don't know how close these things finish.