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Trevor Bauer - can he be Cut?

Post by Outlaw » Fri Jul 02, 2021 5:46 pm

This cat is in big trouble... MLB has ties to law enforcement, so they know what is coming and he'll probably be charged. Always thought he was a strange dude... What a way to screw up a career... Will he be allowed to be cut this FAAB?

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Post by Greg Ambrosius » Sat Jul 03, 2021 8:19 am

Outlaw wrote:
Fri Jul 02, 2021 5:46 pm
This cat is in big trouble... MLB has ties to law enforcement, so they know what is coming and he'll probably be charged. Always thought he was a strange dude... What a way to screw up a career... Will he be allowed to be cut this FAAB?
Anybody can be cut in the NFBC. We never prevent anyone from cutting a player. We look at all cuts on Mondays and decide if anyone needs to be pulled from that league because of an unfair advantage. Like if a player was cut in only one league throughout our contests and he was a superstar, we would likely pull that player from that league's free agent pool because nobody else has access to that pickup. That's an unfair advantage.

This is an unknown situation for Bauer. We can all speculate what will happen with him, but let's admit that as of yesterday the Dodgers were still going to start him on Sunday before MLB interceded. I have no idea what will happen, so we'll monitor everything and act accordingly. But of course you can cut him. Then we'll have to make a decision on whether he remains in the player pool or not. Thanks.
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Re: Trevor Bauer - can he be Cut?

Post by gellin » Tue Jul 06, 2021 9:41 am

Greg, what is the rationale for pulling a superstar, who is dropped, from the free agent pool? With blind free agent bidding, it seems to me that every team in that league would have a fair chance to pick up the player. Once the player is rostered, there's no guarantee the player will continue to perform at a superstar level. I'm cherry picking here but what if Aroldis Chapman was dropped just before his current terrible run and he was picked up as a free agent? Certainly that team wouldn't think they have an advantage. In Bauer's case, this mess he's in may have a psychological toll on his performance for the rest of the year. Sure, the odds are this isn't going to happen with a superstar player but none of us are smart enough to know how any player's season is going to play out, including injuries.

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Post by Chthroop » Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:54 am

The problem is you have people who decide to give up and mess up the overall competitive model. Since everyone is competing for a grand prize in addition to their own league, you wouldn’t want a team to get a massive overall advantage if people just check out in their league

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Post by gellin » Tue Jul 06, 2021 12:15 pm

Chthroop, if the person was "giving up/checking out" he would just leave Bauer on his roster.

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Post by Greg Ambrosius » Tue Jul 06, 2021 12:48 pm

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Tue Jul 06, 2021 9:41 am
Greg, what is the rationale for pulling a superstar, who is dropped, from the free agent pool? With blind free agent bidding, it seems to me that every team in that league would have a fair chance to pick up the player. Once the player is rostered, there's no guarantee the player will continue to perform at a superstar level. I'm cherry picking here but what if Aroldis Chapman was dropped just before his current terrible run and he was picked up as a free agent? Certainly that team wouldn't think they have an advantage. In Bauer's case, this mess he's in may have a psychological toll on his performance for the rest of the year. Sure, the odds are this isn't going to happen with a superstar player but none of us are smart enough to know how any player's season is going to play out, including injuries.
Alan, the rationale we use is if a top player was cut in one league and only those 12 or 15 owners had a chance to add that player to their team, it would create an unfair advantage in a national contest. So if Fernando Tatis Jr. was cut today, would you keep him in the Main Event player pool or the Rotowire Online Championship player pool?

Of course not because it would give those 15 or 12 owners an unfair advantage to add a superstar in July when all of the other teams couldn't do that. We would pull that player from that league's free agent pool and not allow him to be picked up in that league the rest of the way. Now if he got hurt in two weeks, put the 60-day IL of course we'd allow everyone to cut him and pick him up. Maybe he returns for the last two weeks of the season and there's a strategy in taking up a reserve spot for that long to get his final two weeks of stats. But again, he wouldn't be cut in just one league.

Yeah, there's a strategy in adding a guy like Bauer when we don't know what will happen to him the rest of the season, but if that strategy is limited to one league it's not fair to all of the rest of the teams in the national competition. We let individual leagues play out for the most part, but when it comes to the national contests we try to create and keep as fair of a level playing field as possible. Hope that helps.
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Re: Trevor Bauer - can he be Cut?

Post by gellin » Tue Jul 06, 2021 4:07 pm

Greg, I can see how adding a superstar to the FA pool can be perceived as an unfair advantage to the team that gets him but I question how much that one player would really impact the overall standings. Has there ever been a season where a superstar was cut and picked up as a FA and as a result adversely affected the national contests?

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Post by Greg Ambrosius » Wed Jul 07, 2021 7:11 am

gellin wrote:
Tue Jul 06, 2021 4:07 pm
Greg, I can see how adding a superstar to the FA pool can be perceived as an unfair advantage to the team that gets him but I question how much that one player would really impact the overall standings. Has there ever been a season where a superstar was cut and picked up as a FA and as a result adversely affected the national contests?
No, because we haven't allowed that to happen.
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Re: Trevor Bauer - can he be Cut?

Post by Greg Ambrosius » Wed Jul 07, 2021 9:49 am

Trevor Bauer was cut in only one Main Event league this week and we are keeping him in that league's free agent pool. The uncertainty of his situation going forward makes him as risky as anyone at this point in the season, so we will allow him to be picked up in this league and any league going forward. Good luck.
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Re: Trevor Bauer - can he be Cut?

Post by gellin » Wed Jul 07, 2021 1:17 pm

Bravo! Excellent decision!

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Post by Gekko » Wed Jul 07, 2021 4:32 pm

Greg Ambrosius wrote:
Wed Jul 07, 2021 9:49 am
Trevor Bauer was cut in only one Main Event league this week and we are keeping him in that league's free agent pool. The uncertainty of his situation going forward makes him as risky as anyone at this point in the season, so we will allow him to be picked up in this league and any league going forward. Good luck.

In your Tatis example, u would allow him in the free agent pool IF he was added to the 60 day IL.

With Bauer’s situation, he is not on the IL and is not physically hurt. he was a 1st rounder and is having a dominating season so far.

Currently he is on 7-day administrative leave list. It’s being speculated he won’t return at the completion of the 7 days; however it’s possible he returns sometime in July.

If he was only dropped in one league of an overall contest, Why the rush to keep him in the free agent pool, especially with the all star break coming up?

Wouldn’t it be more reasonable and fair to the overall competition to remove him from faab until more is known about his situation, just like in your Tatis example?

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Re: Trevor Bauer - can he be Cut?

Post by Gekko » Wed Jul 07, 2021 5:31 pm

gellin wrote:
Tue Jul 06, 2021 4:07 pm
Greg, I can see how adding a superstar to the FA pool can be perceived as an unfair advantage to the team that gets him but I question how much that one player would really impact the overall standings.
One player could certainly catapult a team up the overall leaderboard, including overall champion

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Re: Trevor Bauer - can he be Cut?

Post by Philippe27 » Wed Jul 07, 2021 6:15 pm

Gekko wrote:
Wed Jul 07, 2021 4:32 pm
Greg Ambrosius wrote:
Wed Jul 07, 2021 9:49 am
Trevor Bauer was cut in only one Main Event league this week and we are keeping him in that league's free agent pool. The uncertainty of his situation going forward makes him as risky as anyone at this point in the season, so we will allow him to be picked up in this league and any league going forward. Good luck.

In your Tatis example, u would allow him in the free agent pool IF he was added to the 60 day IL.

With Bauer’s situation, he is not on the IL and is not physically hurt. he was a 1st rounder and is having a dominating season so far.

Currently he is on 7-day administrative leave list. It’s being speculated he won’t return at the completion of the 7 days; however it’s possible he returns sometime in July.

If he was only dropped in one league of an overall contest, Why the rush to keep him in the free agent pool, especially with the all star break coming up?

Wouldn’t it be more reasonable and fair to the overall competition to remove him from faab until more is known about his situation, just like in your Tatis example?
I feel like this rule needs to be removed or clarified for next year. Blake Snell was removed from the player pool in 2019 after his injury in late July even though we knew he'd be out for awhile. Not sure what was different in Snell's case...

It could be that all players with a Main ADP in the first 2 rounds are sutomatically removed from the player pool if cut.

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Re: Trevor Bauer - can he be Cut?

Post by gr3gg96 » Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:41 am

Philippe27 wrote:
Wed Jul 07, 2021 6:15 pm
Gekko wrote:
Wed Jul 07, 2021 4:32 pm
Greg Ambrosius wrote:
Wed Jul 07, 2021 9:49 am
Trevor Bauer was cut in only one Main Event league this week and we are keeping him in that league's free agent pool. The uncertainty of his situation going forward makes him as risky as anyone at this point in the season, so we will allow him to be picked up in this league and any league going forward. Good luck.

In your Tatis example, u would allow him in the free agent pool IF he was added to the 60 day IL.

With Bauer’s situation, he is not on the IL and is not physically hurt. he was a 1st rounder and is having a dominating season so far.

Currently he is on 7-day administrative leave list. It’s being speculated he won’t return at the completion of the 7 days; however it’s possible he returns sometime in July.

If he was only dropped in one league of an overall contest, Why the rush to keep him in the free agent pool, especially with the all star break coming up?

Wouldn’t it be more reasonable and fair to the overall competition to remove him from faab until more is known about his situation, just like in your Tatis example?
I feel like this rule needs to be removed or clarified for next year. Blake Snell was removed from the player pool in 2019 after his injury in late July even though we knew he'd be out for awhile. Not sure what was different in Snell's case...

It could be that all players with a Main ADP in the first 2 rounds are sutomatically removed from the player pool if cut.
I completely agree with Phil on this. There needs to be an official rule listed in the league rule page. Another example is Edwin Diaz. He was dropped in a main this year. Your justification for pulling players is that no one else has access to that player. Why was he not pulled from the player pool?

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Re: Trevor Bauer - can he be Cut?

Post by Greg Ambrosius » Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:46 am

Gekko wrote:
Wed Jul 07, 2021 4:32 pm
Greg Ambrosius wrote:
Wed Jul 07, 2021 9:49 am
Trevor Bauer was cut in only one Main Event league this week and we are keeping him in that league's free agent pool. The uncertainty of his situation going forward makes him as risky as anyone at this point in the season, so we will allow him to be picked up in this league and any league going forward. Good luck.

In your Tatis example, u would allow him in the free agent pool IF he was added to the 60 day IL.

With Bauer’s situation, he is not on the IL and is not physically hurt. he was a 1st rounder and is having a dominating season so far.

Currently he is on 7-day administrative leave list. It’s being speculated he won’t return at the completion of the 7 days; however it’s possible he returns sometime in July.

If he was only dropped in one league of an overall contest, Why the rush to keep him in the free agent pool, especially with the all star break coming up?

Wouldn’t it be more reasonable and fair to the overall competition to remove him from faab until more is known about his situation, just like in your Tatis example?
I don't disagree with any of this and we thought about pulling him and had a discussion about it. As you can see on this thread, we get criticized if we pull him (or Blake Snell) or if we don't. We've probably pulled maybe a handful of guys from the player pool since 2004 and yet there is still criticism if we pull even one player to keep the competition fair.

In Bauer's case, it looks more and more like the Dodgers are moving on from him as they made a couple of moves yesterday to remove his apparel and they cancelled his bobblehead day in mid August. It doesn't look like he will be reinstated anytime soon and as a Starting Pitcher after a long delay, there's no guarantee that he will be dominant for those last handful or so of starts. And with reserve roster spots so valuable, it's a risk for any owner who picks him up or keeps him going forward. That's just the hard truth. We felt that he will be cut in more leagues after this week and it would be a one-week pause on Bauer in this one league.

But yes, we could have taken the safe route and paused this pickup for a week. But again, we think there will be more Bauer cuts going forward as he's not denying any of the events and the Dodgers and MLB seem ready to move on from this situation. We could be wrong, but this seems like a circumstance where he's been cut by one team, but more cuts could be coming soon.

We use our discretion in these instances and we don't have a "No Cut List" for like the Top 30 players. Player values change throughout the year and just because Vladimir Guerrero wasn't a Top 30 pick, that doesn't mean we'd allow him to be cut in one Main Event league and picked up next week. We would use our judgement and remove him from that one league right now. Subjective decisions by us make the most sense, in our minds.

Hope this helps. Thanks for the feedback. Keeping the integrity of these national contests and keeping them as fair as possible is at the top of my list when I run these leagues and I hope everyone understands that. But tough decisions have to be made and we'll stick by this one. Good luck.
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Re: Trevor Bauer - can he be Cut?

Post by Greg Ambrosius » Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:52 am

Philippe27 wrote:
Wed Jul 07, 2021 6:15 pm
Gekko wrote:
Wed Jul 07, 2021 4:32 pm
Greg Ambrosius wrote:
Wed Jul 07, 2021 9:49 am
Trevor Bauer was cut in only one Main Event league this week and we are keeping him in that league's free agent pool. The uncertainty of his situation going forward makes him as risky as anyone at this point in the season, so we will allow him to be picked up in this league and any league going forward. Good luck.

In your Tatis example, u would allow him in the free agent pool IF he was added to the 60 day IL.

With Bauer’s situation, he is not on the IL and is not physically hurt. he was a 1st rounder and is having a dominating season so far.

Currently he is on 7-day administrative leave list. It’s being speculated he won’t return at the completion of the 7 days; however it’s possible he returns sometime in July.

If he was only dropped in one league of an overall contest, Why the rush to keep him in the free agent pool, especially with the all star break coming up?

Wouldn’t it be more reasonable and fair to the overall competition to remove him from faab until more is known about his situation, just like in your Tatis example?
I feel like this rule needs to be removed or clarified for next year. Blake Snell was removed from the player pool in 2019 after his injury in late July even though we knew he'd be out for awhile. Not sure what was different in Snell's case...

It could be that all players with a Main ADP in the first 2 rounds are sutomatically removed from the player pool if cut.
I respectfully disagree. And it's okay for two people to disagree.

As I stated in the post above, if we had a "No Cut List" for a select number of top picks, then Vlad Guerrero could be dropped tomorrow in one Main Event league and picked up. That wouldn't be good for the fairness of the 39 other Main Event leagues.

Nothing is perfect, but we'll use our judgement to look over all cuts every week and determine if anyone needs to be pulled. We played it safe in 2019 and nobody got hurt by that decision. Did that one league suffer immeasurably by us removing Snell from the free agent pool? I don't think so as he was cut by more teams in future weeks. We feel this situation could get worse before it gets better and will allow that league to take a shot on Bauer. Good luck all.
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Re: Trevor Bauer - can he be Cut?

Post by Greg Ambrosius » Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:55 am

gr3gg96 wrote:
Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:41 am
Philippe27 wrote:
Wed Jul 07, 2021 6:15 pm
Gekko wrote:
Wed Jul 07, 2021 4:32 pm



In your Tatis example, u would allow him in the free agent pool IF he was added to the 60 day IL.

With Bauer’s situation, he is not on the IL and is not physically hurt. he was a 1st rounder and is having a dominating season so far.

Currently he is on 7-day administrative leave list. It’s being speculated he won’t return at the completion of the 7 days; however it’s possible he returns sometime in July.

If he was only dropped in one league of an overall contest, Why the rush to keep him in the free agent pool, especially with the all star break coming up?

Wouldn’t it be more reasonable and fair to the overall competition to remove him from faab until more is known about his situation, just like in your Tatis example?
I feel like this rule needs to be removed or clarified for next year. Blake Snell was removed from the player pool in 2019 after his injury in late July even though we knew he'd be out for awhile. Not sure what was different in Snell's case...

It could be that all players with a Main ADP in the first 2 rounds are sutomatically removed from the player pool if cut.
I completely agree with Phil on this. There needs to be an official rule listed in the league rule page. Another example is Edwin Diaz. He was dropped in a main this year. Your justification for pulling players is that no one else has access to that player. Why was he not pulled from the player pool?
Every year closers are cut by teams who can't gain points in the Saves category and decide to load up on Starting Pitchers for the stretch run. In this case, the owner even contacted us beforehand to tell us he was cutting Diaz and we totally understood. There was never a thought to remove him and history will show that we've allowed all closers in the past to be cut and picked up within those leagues. We allow those leagues to play out in those situations.

Hope that helps.
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Re: Trevor Bauer - can he be Cut?

Post by Philippe27 » Thu Jul 08, 2021 10:32 am

No problem Greg I understand and I think I agree with you.

Anyways it only really becomes an issue in the last month or two of the season where an owner could have significantly more FAAB left than any other team in the league.

It would be nice to be able to add a top player but would it be worth leaving yourself with say less than $50 in FAAB for the last 3 months? Probably not.

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Re: Trevor Bauer - can he be Cut?

Post by Gekko » Thu Jul 08, 2021 11:02 am

Greg Ambrosius wrote:
Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:46 am
Gekko wrote:
Wed Jul 07, 2021 4:32 pm
Greg Ambrosius wrote:
Wed Jul 07, 2021 9:49 am
Trevor Bauer was cut in only one Main Event league this week and we are keeping him in that league's free agent pool. The uncertainty of his situation going forward makes him as risky as anyone at this point in the season, so we will allow him to be picked up in this league and any league going forward. Good luck.

In your Tatis example, u would allow him in the free agent pool IF he was added to the 60 day IL.

With Bauer’s situation, he is not on the IL and is not physically hurt. he was a 1st rounder and is having a dominating season so far.

Currently he is on 7-day administrative leave list. It’s being speculated he won’t return at the completion of the 7 days; however it’s possible he returns sometime in July.

If he was only dropped in one league of an overall contest, Why the rush to keep him in the free agent pool, especially with the all star break coming up?

Wouldn’t it be more reasonable and fair to the overall competition to remove him from faab until more is known about his situation, just like in your Tatis example?
I don't disagree with any of this and we thought about pulling him and had a discussion about it. As you can see on this thread, we get criticized if we pull him (or Blake Snell) or if we don't. We've probably pulled maybe a handful of guys from the player pool since 2004 and yet there is still criticism if we pull even one player to keep the competition fair.

In Bauer's case, it looks more and more like the Dodgers are moving on from him as they made a couple of moves yesterday to remove his apparel and they cancelled his bobblehead day in mid August. It doesn't look like he will be reinstated anytime soon and as a Starting Pitcher after a long delay, there's no guarantee that he will be dominant for those last handful or so of starts. And with reserve roster spots so valuable, it's a risk for any owner who picks him up or keeps him going forward. That's just the hard truth. We felt that he will be cut in more leagues after this week and it would be a one-week pause on Bauer in this one league.

But yes, we could have taken the safe route and paused this pickup for a week. But again, we think there will be more Bauer cuts going forward as he's not denying any of the events and the Dodgers and MLB seem ready to move on from this situation. We could be wrong, but this seems like a circumstance where he's been cut by one team, but more cuts could be coming soon.

We use our discretion in these instances and we don't have a "No Cut List" for like the Top 30 players. Player values change throughout the year and just because Vladimir Guerrero wasn't a Top 30 pick, that doesn't mean we'd allow him to be cut in one Main Event league and picked up next week. We would use our judgement and remove him from that one league right now. Subjective decisions by us make the most sense, in our minds.

Hope this helps. Thanks for the feedback. Keeping the integrity of these national contests and keeping them as fair as possible is at the top of my list when I run these leagues and I hope everyone understands that. But tough decisions have to be made and we'll stick by this one. Good luck.
Thanks for the quick response. These are always tough decisions. While I'd lean toward the "wait a bit and see if more clarity is provided after the 7 day leave expires" camp, i certainly understand your viewpoint. Thanks again.

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Post by Greg Ambrosius » Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:48 pm

Just now: Trevor Bauer's administrative leave has been extended 7 days.
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Re: Trevor Bauer - can he be Cut?

Post by COZ » Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:51 pm

gr3gg96 wrote:
Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:41 am
Philippe27 wrote:
Wed Jul 07, 2021 6:15 pm

I feel like this rule needs to be removed or clarified for next year. Blake Snell was removed from the player pool in 2019 after his injury in late July even though we knew he'd be out for awhile. Not sure what was different in Snell's case...

It could be that all players with a Main ADP in the first 2 rounds are sutomatically removed from the player pool if cut.
I completely agree with Phil on this. There needs to be an official rule listed in the league rule page. Another example is Edwin Diaz. He was dropped in a main this year. Your justification for pulling players is that no one else has access to that player. Why was he not pulled from the player pool?
There is already "official" language addressing these issues, whether or not it qualifies as a rule per se is debatable. Indeed, it is quite clearly stated:

Commissioner Review of Player Drops: : All player drops for free agents are subject to review by the NFBC commissioner and can be revoked if the dropped player is deemed too valuable to be offered to that league's free agent pool, thus damaging the credibility of the overall contest. In the case of a star player being dropped in a league for a valid reason, the NFBC commissioner reserves the right to allow the cut but keep the player out of that league's free agent pool for any length of time, possibly the entire season. All decisions by the NFBC commissioner will be final.

Now the clamoring in this thread for a more bright line "rule" that hamstrings future decision-making is unnecessary in my opinion. Sometimes ya can't have bold black-and-white rules for future situations that are typically gray with good arguments pro & con regarding removal of a player from the pool. And, as our Founders brilliantly articulated in the Federalist Papers, one must always operate under the assumption that people will always act in their own self-interest. And, I think, without explicitly stating it as such, this fundamental concept is implied in the rules of the NFBC and their actions. So, for me, the default review process should be left in the discretion of the Commissioner on a case by case basis with the default presumption being that any drop is done in the owner's self-interest & done in good faith, that the player should allowed in the player pool and let the market value via FAAB the benefits/risks of acquisition with out restriction from the Commissioner but for exceptional circumstances. What those exceptional circumstances may be can only be done on a case by case basis in their sole discretion. This is a good "rule", this was done here and I'm fine with how it is and has been handled in the past.

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Post by JohnP » Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:21 pm

COZ wrote:
Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:51 pm
gr3gg96 wrote:
Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:41 am
Philippe27 wrote:
Wed Jul 07, 2021 6:15 pm

I feel like this rule needs to be removed or clarified for next year. Blake Snell was removed from the player pool in 2019 after his injury in late July even though we knew he'd be out for awhile. Not sure what was different in Snell's case...

It could be that all players with a Main ADP in the first 2 rounds are sutomatically removed from the player pool if cut.
I completely agree with Phil on this. There needs to be an official rule listed in the league rule page. Another example is Edwin Diaz. He was dropped in a main this year. Your justification for pulling players is that no one else has access to that player. Why was he not pulled from the player pool?
There is already "official" language addressing these issues, whether or not it qualifies as a rule per se is debatable. Indeed, it is quite clearly stated:

Commissioner Review of Player Drops: : All player drops for free agents are subject to review by the NFBC commissioner and can be revoked if the dropped player is deemed too valuable to be offered to that league's free agent pool, thus damaging the credibility of the overall contest. In the case of a star player being dropped in a league for a valid reason, the NFBC commissioner reserves the right to allow the cut but keep the player out of that league's free agent pool for any length of time, possibly the entire season. All decisions by the NFBC commissioner will be final.

Now the clamoring in this thread for a more bright line "rule" that hamstrings future decision-making is unnecessary in my opinion. Sometimes ya can't have bold black-and-white rules for future situations that are typically gray with good arguments pro & con regarding removal of a player from the pool. And, as our Founders brilliantly articulated in the Federalist Papers, one must always operate under the assumption that people will always act in their own self-interest. And, I think, without explicitly stating it as such, this fundamental concept is implied in the rules of the NFBC and their actions. So, for me, the default review process should be left in the discretion of the Commissioner on a case by case basis with the default presumption being that any drop is done in the owner's self-interest & done in good faith, that the player should allowed in the player pool and let the market value via FAAB the benefits/risks of acquisition with out restriction from the Commissioner but for exceptional circumstances. What those exceptional circumstances may be can only be done on a case by case basis in their sole discretion. This is a good "rule", this was done here and I'm fine with how it is and has been handled in the past.

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