Free Agents

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Sun Apr 25, 2004 12:58 pm

Much to my surprise there were a bunch of quality free agents available this week (none in my league of course). Here's a list of them. Either we have a couple of dud owners or we have a few "dummy" leagues. Too bad I'm not in one of them.

Aaron Harang

Brad Lidge

Brian Lawrence

Eric Munson

Jason Marquis

Jeff Suppan

John Patterson

Rafael Soriano

Ray Lankford

Scot Shields

Scott Schoeneweis

Hoosier Hick · Post by **Hoosier Hick** » Sun Apr 25, 2004 3:14 pm

Raphael Soriano? Kind of hard to hold a spot for a guy in triple A ball. Especially when you have 3 guys on your bench on the DL.

OGB · Post by **OGB** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 5:05 am

Must be nice to only have 3 players on the DL. I'm currently sitting with 5, although they all could be back within the next few days, I'm holding my breath ... what is that another set back, again ..... arrrrggggg

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 6:09 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

Much to my surprise there were a bunch of quality free agents available this week (none in my league of course). Here's a list of them. Either we have a couple of dud owners or we have a few "dummy" leagues. Too bad I'm not in one of them.

Aaron Harang

Brad Lidge

Brian Lawrence

Eric Munson

Jason Marquis

Jeff Suppan

John Patterson

Rafael Soriano

Ray Lankford

Scot Shields

Scott Schoeneweis GG - you like Brian Lawrence? I think the pads' batting practice pitcher has a lower WHIP

BONGIZMO · Post by **BONGIZMO** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 7:03 am

OGB...don't complain as many of the remnants able to be picked up will cost you far greater than the zeros from a DL...see Peter Bergeron for example

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 7:10 am

Originally posted by KJ Duke:

GG - you like Brian Lawrence? I think the pads' batting practice pitcher has a lower WHIP Didn't say I liked Lawrence, just that he shouldn't be in the FA pool. 2 wins, 17 k's, and a 4.97 era is better than some of the so-called "star pitchers" or "soon to be star pitchers" that everyone was drooling over before the season started.

Maybe owners should drop Contreras now? His stats are much worse than Lawrence.

[ April 26, 2004, 01:11 PM: Message edited by: Gordon Gekko ]

Dyv · Post by **Dyv** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 8:10 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

Maybe owners should drop Contreras now? His stats are much worse than Lawrence. Yes, I know. Thankfully he doesn't cause as much harm on the bench... Well, besides the obvious mental anguish...

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KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 10:30 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by KJ Duke:

GG - you like Brian Lawrence? I think the pads' batting practice pitcher has a lower WHIP Didn't say I liked Lawrence, just that he shouldn't be in the FA pool. 2 wins, 17 k's, and a 4.97 era is better than some of the so-called "star pitchers" or "soon to be star pitchers" that everyone was drooling over before the season started.

Maybe owners should drop Contreras now? His stats are much worse than Lawrence. [/QUOTE]I didn't draft Lawrence, but if I did I probably would've dropped him too. To date, he has generated negative value and I wouldn't bet that he is going to get a lot better ... there are better quality pitchers on the waiver wire unless you believe that he is about to miraculously re-discover his 2001 form.

He should be dropped from the SD rotation, they have better arms. Contreras - is he throwing like Lawrence - in the mid 80s with no movement ?

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 12:38 pm

Originally posted by KJ Duke:

Contreras - is he throwing like Lawrence - in the mid 80s with no movement ? No...Contreras is a HEADCASE!!!

On another note, I love owners who get scared and start dumping decent players that start the year slowly. Maybe Lawrence will improve...maybe he won't, but I'd give him at least 5-6 starts before dumping him.

To date, many players have generated negative values. So, listen up all owners....drop Jeter, Contreras, Redman, Ensberg, etc... they are generating negative value for your team, cut them loose now!! Dukie can then have some "ammo" to prove his point.

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Tue Apr 27, 2004 10:40 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by KJ Duke:

Contreras - is he throwing like Lawrence - in the mid 80s with no movement ? No...Contreras is a HEADCASE!!!

On another note, I love owners who get scared and start dumping decent players that start the year slowly. Maybe Lawrence will improve...maybe he won't, but I'd give him at least 5-6 starts before dumping him.

To date, many players have generated negative values. So, listen up all owners....drop Jeter, Contreras, Redman, Ensberg, etc... they are generating negative value for your team, cut them loose now!! Dukie can then have some "ammo" to prove his point.

[/QUOTE]Yeah, everyone dump your underperformers (especially if you're in my lge) -- I agree with Gordie!! Actually GG, my only "point" is that Brian Lawrence doesn't have it. The season will prove me right or wrong.

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 6:12 pm

B Lawrence - another 5 IP, another 5 ER ... he should be on the waiver wire in every lge ...

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Sat May 01, 2004 12:38 am

Originally posted by KJ Duke:

B Lawrence - another 5 IP, another 5 ER ... he should be on the waiver wire in every lge ... I know you were waiting all week for Lawrence to blow up so you could post on the MB. You are a genius. I see you forgot to mention that he gave up all those runs in the first inning AND he also got the WIN. Selective memory? Again, you are a true genius.

a · Post by a » Sun May 02, 2004 12:14 pm

So Liz, what you are saying that the person who released Halladay last year had a right to do so because his first month's stats dictacted he should......

Maybe he hopes someone in his league would pick them up a drop a better player than Gordo has on his team and that he can pick them up next week.

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by KJ Duke:

GG - you like Brian Lawrence? I think the pads' batting practice pitcher has a lower WHIP Didn't say I liked Lawrence, just that he shouldn't be in the FA pool. 2 wins, 17 k's, and a 4.97 era is better than some of the so-called "star pitchers" or "soon to be star pitchers" that everyone was drooling over before the season started.

Maybe owners should drop Contreras now? His stats are much worse than Lawrence. [/QUOTE]

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Sun May 02, 2004 12:20 pm

Originally posted by Vega$ Gambler$:

So Liz, what you are saying that the person who released Halladay last year had a right to do so because his first month's stats dictacted he should...... I was being sarcastic. Someone like Halladay would not be allowed to be dropped.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Wed May 12, 2004 11:56 pm

Originally posted by KJ Duke:

B Lawrence - another 5 IP, another 5 ER ... he should be on the waiver wire in every lge ... Wonder what the owners who dropped or advocated dropping B.Lawrence are thinking?

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Thu May 13, 2004 5:23 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by KJ Duke:

B Lawrence - another 5 IP, another 5 ER ... he should be on the waiver wire in every lge ... Wonder what the owners who dropped or advocated dropping B.Lawrence are thinking? [/QUOTE]They're probably wondering if 2 games makes a trend, or a year-to-date 1.71 WHIP is worth having over waiver wire pickups that have pitched much better than that.

On a separate note, in LV-5, Contreras has, in fact, been dropped. How much would you pay to pick him up Lizard?

4 Perps · Post by **4 Perps** » Thu May 13, 2004 6:21 pm

Re: Contreras---just wanted to stop the bleeding!!

Stay tuned Brian Anerson may be next!!

4 Perps · Post by **4 Perps** » Thu May 13, 2004 6:26 pm

Sorry that would be Brian Anderson for those that are trying to find a pitcher named anerson

Owe to be a lefty that can throw strikes---regardless of talent---he is on the bubble!!!

4 Perps · Post by **4 Perps** » Thu May 13, 2004 6:30 pm

Sorry that would be Brian Anderson for those that are trying to find a pitcher named anerson

Owe to be a lefty that can throw strikes---regardless of talent---he is on the bubble!!!

4 Perps · Post by **4 Perps** » Thu May 13, 2004 6:31 pm

Sorry that would be Brian Anderson for those that are trying to find a pitcher named anerson

Owe to be a lefty that can throw strikes---regardless of talent---he is on the bubble!!!