For those of us who are out of it in 2007, it is always fun to look ahead and think about next year. Next year should be very interesting. If the 2008 draft was next week, here's how I see it shaking out:
1) Jose Reyes
2) Alex Rodriguez
3) Hanley Ramirez
4) Albert Pujols
5) Alfonso Soriano
6) David Wright
7) Jimmy Rollins
8) Chase Utley
9) Ryan Howard
10)Grady Sizemore
11)Matt Holliday
12)Miguel Cabrera
13)Vladimir Guerrero
14)Carl Crawford
15)Carlos Beltran
Thoughts???
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Hnley Rameriz is the number one pick, next year , 30 homers and 50 steals. **** he might do it this year.
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Originally posted by FFBL23:
For those of us who are out of it in 2007, it is always fun to look ahead and think about next year. Next year should be very interesting. If the 2008 draft was next week, here's how I see it shaking out:
1) Jose Reyes
2) Alex Rodriguez
3) Hanley Ramirez
4) Albert Pujols
5) Alfonso Soriano
6) David Wright
7) Jimmy Rollins
8) Chase Utley
9) Ryan Howard
10)Grady Sizemore
11)Matt Holliday
12)Miguel Cabrera
13)Vladimir Guerrero
14)Carl Crawford
15)Carlos Beltran
Thoughts??? Beltran has no shot at this first round after this year.
For those of us who are out of it in 2007, it is always fun to look ahead and think about next year. Next year should be very interesting. If the 2008 draft was next week, here's how I see it shaking out:
1) Jose Reyes
2) Alex Rodriguez
3) Hanley Ramirez
4) Albert Pujols
5) Alfonso Soriano
6) David Wright
7) Jimmy Rollins
8) Chase Utley
9) Ryan Howard
10)Grady Sizemore
11)Matt Holliday
12)Miguel Cabrera
13)Vladimir Guerrero
14)Carl Crawford
15)Carlos Beltran
Thoughts??? Beltran has no shot at this first round after this year.
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Very good list- only place I disagree is no way on Vladi. Other than that great list- how high will Ryan Braun go will be an interesting question and I would not be so quick to remove Santana.
I think the top 3 will be the same in every league, but would not shock me to see them each go just about equally in spots 1 through 3.
I think the top 3 will be the same in every league, but would not shock me to see them each go just about equally in spots 1 through 3.
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Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:
Very good list- only place I disagree is no way on Vladi. Other than that great list- how high will Ryan Braun go will be an interesting question and I would not be so quick to remove Santana.
I think the top 3 will be the same in every league, but would not shock me to see them each go just about equally in spots 1 through 3. Braun went late second or early third in the mid season leagues. He goes in the top twenty picks if he plays well the rest of the year.
Very good list- only place I disagree is no way on Vladi. Other than that great list- how high will Ryan Braun go will be an interesting question and I would not be so quick to remove Santana.
I think the top 3 will be the same in every league, but would not shock me to see them each go just about equally in spots 1 through 3. Braun went late second or early third in the mid season leagues. He goes in the top twenty picks if he plays well the rest of the year.
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I came very close to getting Holliday with my mid first round pick this year.But,I took the easy way and picked Beltran.Now I feel like I ordered dinner and the person at the next table ordered what I was thinking about,and it looks sooo good.
All pigs are created equal.Some are more equal than others.
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Here would be my top 15:
1) Alex Rodriguez (Power, speed, and the yankee lineup and No injury risk...)
2) Jose Reyes
3) Hanley Ramirez (only because of slight injury risk do I put him below Reyes)
4) Santana (Gekko has shown you can pick a pitcher in the first round and do well)
5) Albert Pujols (if the cardinals get another big hitting player, he moves up a spot)
6) Alfonso Soriano (because the promise of 40/40 is always there)
7) Jimmy Rollins
8) Miguel Cabrera (the power if finally here to make him a top 10 guy)
9) Chase Utley
10) Ryan Howard
11)Grady Sizemore
12) David Wright (not quite enough power/speed to displace anyone above him)
13)Matt Holliday
14) Carl Crawford (should return to form and add power, and there aren't many power/speed guys left at this point)
15)Vladimir Guerrero
Thoughts?
1) Alex Rodriguez (Power, speed, and the yankee lineup and No injury risk...)
2) Jose Reyes
3) Hanley Ramirez (only because of slight injury risk do I put him below Reyes)
4) Santana (Gekko has shown you can pick a pitcher in the first round and do well)
5) Albert Pujols (if the cardinals get another big hitting player, he moves up a spot)
6) Alfonso Soriano (because the promise of 40/40 is always there)
7) Jimmy Rollins
8) Miguel Cabrera (the power if finally here to make him a top 10 guy)
9) Chase Utley
10) Ryan Howard
11)Grady Sizemore
12) David Wright (not quite enough power/speed to displace anyone above him)
13)Matt Holliday
14) Carl Crawford (should return to form and add power, and there aren't many power/speed guys left at this point)
15)Vladimir Guerrero
Thoughts?
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Totally agree Shawn. I took Braun mid second in our mid season league and with his ability to steal 10-15 bags, no dought he is legit top 20 (I surely think higher than that)
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All the debate about who goes one ends quickly if Arod signs as a SS.
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Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:
All the debate about who goes one ends quickly if Arod signs as a SS. Crew you and your 120 bid for Upton!
I considered 121, but went with 112...amazing!
~Lance
All the debate about who goes one ends quickly if Arod signs as a SS. Crew you and your 120 bid for Upton!
I considered 121, but went with 112...amazing!
~Lance
"The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once."
~Albert Einstein
~Albert Einstein
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Santana at #4 is borderline insanity....CC you're probably right about Beltran, I was reaching for that last spot. Beltran does have this habit of following up down years with great seasons. We'll see. Greg, Tom...what do you think about the 2008 1st round??
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Originally posted by FFBL23:
For those of us who are out of it in 2007, it is always fun to look ahead and think about next year. Next year should be very interesting. If the 2008 draft was next week, here's how I see it shaking out:
1) Jose Reyes
2) Alex Rodriguez
3) Hanley Ramirez
4) Albert Pujols
5) Alfonso Soriano
6) David Wright
7) Jimmy Rollins
8) Chase Utley
9) Ryan Howard
10)Grady Sizemore
11)Matt Holliday
12)Miguel Cabrera
13)Vladimir Guerrero
14)Carl Crawford
15)Carlos Beltran
Thoughts??? If this ranking isn't based 100% in recent 2007 results...what is?
It is typical. Nobody has the foresight to see what is growing nor dying. They all only see what has happened, and believe it will continue as it has been going.
With all of the internet and magazines and talk shows and podcasts...we have become "dumber"...a bunch of robots without a feel for the game.
~Lance
For those of us who are out of it in 2007, it is always fun to look ahead and think about next year. Next year should be very interesting. If the 2008 draft was next week, here's how I see it shaking out:
1) Jose Reyes
2) Alex Rodriguez
3) Hanley Ramirez
4) Albert Pujols
5) Alfonso Soriano
6) David Wright
7) Jimmy Rollins
8) Chase Utley
9) Ryan Howard
10)Grady Sizemore
11)Matt Holliday
12)Miguel Cabrera
13)Vladimir Guerrero
14)Carl Crawford
15)Carlos Beltran
Thoughts??? If this ranking isn't based 100% in recent 2007 results...what is?
It is typical. Nobody has the foresight to see what is growing nor dying. They all only see what has happened, and believe it will continue as it has been going.
With all of the internet and magazines and talk shows and podcasts...we have become "dumber"...a bunch of robots without a feel for the game.
~Lance
"The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once."
~Albert Einstein
~Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Spyhunter:
Here would be my top 15:
1) Alex Rodriguez (Power, speed, and the yankee lineup and No injury risk...)And if he's not a Yankee...still #1?
Here would be my top 15:
1) Alex Rodriguez (Power, speed, and the yankee lineup and No injury risk...)And if he's not a Yankee...still #1?
"There is but one game and that game is baseball." – John McGraw
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Originally posted by BEF:
quote:Originally posted by Spyhunter:
Here would be my top 15:
1) Alex Rodriguez (Power, speed, and the yankee lineup and No injury risk...)And if he's not a Yankee...still #1? [/QUOTE]Depends on where he ends up. I am a big believer in lineup quality...
quote:Originally posted by Spyhunter:
Here would be my top 15:
1) Alex Rodriguez (Power, speed, and the yankee lineup and No injury risk...)And if he's not a Yankee...still #1? [/QUOTE]Depends on where he ends up. I am a big believer in lineup quality...
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Originally posted by FFBL23:
Santana at #4 is borderline insanity....CC you're probably right about Beltran, I was reaching for that last spot. Beltran does have this habit of following up down years with great seasons. We'll see. Greg, Tom...what do you think about the 2008 1st round?? Borderline insanity? Really? Who as been the top Fantasy contributor for like 3 years straight? Nope, not Pujols. Go see Gekko's current #2 overall standing for showing the power of a super star pitching starter. Here is the current ESPN rater top 5:
RNK PLAYER, TEAM POS R HR RBI SB AVG K W SV ERA WHIP OVR
1 Alex Rodriguez, NYY 3B 5.00 5.00 5.00 1.23 3.24 -- -- -- -- -- 19.47
2 Erik Bedard, Bal SP -- -- -- -- -- 5.00 4.29 0.00 3.97 4.47 17.73
3 Dan Haren, Oak SP -- -- -- -- -- 3.31 4.64 0.00 4.78 4.68 17.41
4 Jake Peavy, SD SP -- -- -- -- -- 4.01 3.93 0.00 4.82 4.61 17.37
5 Johan Santana, Min SP -- -- -- -- -- 4.27 3.93 0.00 4.10 5.00 17.30
Note how pitchers are killing...
Santana at #4 is borderline insanity....CC you're probably right about Beltran, I was reaching for that last spot. Beltran does have this habit of following up down years with great seasons. We'll see. Greg, Tom...what do you think about the 2008 1st round?? Borderline insanity? Really? Who as been the top Fantasy contributor for like 3 years straight? Nope, not Pujols. Go see Gekko's current #2 overall standing for showing the power of a super star pitching starter. Here is the current ESPN rater top 5:
RNK PLAYER, TEAM POS R HR RBI SB AVG K W SV ERA WHIP OVR
1 Alex Rodriguez, NYY 3B 5.00 5.00 5.00 1.23 3.24 -- -- -- -- -- 19.47
2 Erik Bedard, Bal SP -- -- -- -- -- 5.00 4.29 0.00 3.97 4.47 17.73
3 Dan Haren, Oak SP -- -- -- -- -- 3.31 4.64 0.00 4.78 4.68 17.41
4 Jake Peavy, SD SP -- -- -- -- -- 4.01 3.93 0.00 4.82 4.61 17.37
5 Johan Santana, Min SP -- -- -- -- -- 4.27 3.93 0.00 4.10 5.00 17.30
Note how pitchers are killing...
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Originally posted by sportsbettingman:
quote:Originally posted by FFBL23:
For those of us who are out of it in 2007, it is always fun to look ahead and think about next year. Next year should be very interesting. If the 2008 draft was next week, here's how I see it shaking out:
1) Jose Reyes
2) Alex Rodriguez
3) Hanley Ramirez
4) Albert Pujols
5) Alfonso Soriano
6) David Wright
7) Jimmy Rollins
8) Chase Utley
9) Ryan Howard
10)Grady Sizemore
11)Matt Holliday
12)Miguel Cabrera
13)Vladimir Guerrero
14)Carl Crawford
15)Carlos Beltran
Thoughts??? If this ranking isn't based 100% in recent 2007 results...what is?
It is typical. Nobody has the foresight to see what is growing nor dying. They all only see what has happened, and believe it will continue as it has been going.
With all of the internet and magazines and talk shows and podcasts...we have become "dumber"...a bunch of robots without a feel for the game.
~Lance [/QUOTE]I couldn't disagree more. The first round is all about risk adjusted rate of return. SURE Braun maybe the next big thing. Or the world can adjust and he has a sophmore slump. This list isn't about who will perform top 15. That is a totally different question. This list is about, who will provide a very high level of return, with low risk. Hence the reason that only 1 pitcher makes the top 15.
Spy
quote:Originally posted by FFBL23:
For those of us who are out of it in 2007, it is always fun to look ahead and think about next year. Next year should be very interesting. If the 2008 draft was next week, here's how I see it shaking out:
1) Jose Reyes
2) Alex Rodriguez
3) Hanley Ramirez
4) Albert Pujols
5) Alfonso Soriano
6) David Wright
7) Jimmy Rollins
8) Chase Utley
9) Ryan Howard
10)Grady Sizemore
11)Matt Holliday
12)Miguel Cabrera
13)Vladimir Guerrero
14)Carl Crawford
15)Carlos Beltran
Thoughts??? If this ranking isn't based 100% in recent 2007 results...what is?
It is typical. Nobody has the foresight to see what is growing nor dying. They all only see what has happened, and believe it will continue as it has been going.
With all of the internet and magazines and talk shows and podcasts...we have become "dumber"...a bunch of robots without a feel for the game.
~Lance [/QUOTE]I couldn't disagree more. The first round is all about risk adjusted rate of return. SURE Braun maybe the next big thing. Or the world can adjust and he has a sophmore slump. This list isn't about who will perform top 15. That is a totally different question. This list is about, who will provide a very high level of return, with low risk. Hence the reason that only 1 pitcher makes the top 15.
Spy
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I don't know Lance. It doesn't seem all that different from last year's list and some of the guys, like Holliday, really should have been there last year. If it was based purely on recent results you'd have BJ, Braun, Fielder, and Hart in there and I'm not even sure two of them don't belong. It is all pretty wild speculation at this point anyway. I need two more months of performances and a whole offseason of research before I am ready with my top 15, but I will say that next year might be a good one to draft late in.
Chance favors the prepared mind.
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I've come to the conclusion it's time for me to break out the Matt Holliday Voodoo curse.
Sorry in advance to all Holliday owners out there...he's going down for the count beginning today!
~Lance
Sorry in advance to all Holliday owners out there...he's going down for the count beginning today!
~Lance
"The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once."
~Albert Einstein
~Albert Einstein
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Oh, huh, sorry, I forgot about your bet. Wasn't purposely bringing up Holliday. But I mentioned him because I had him 7th in my top 15 so I would have been one of those who reached for him if I had a late first round pick (though Stevieland snatched him up 12th in my league). He is the rare player who people just seem to hate. In 2006 I had him ranked 20th overall and he had an adp of 68. Not sure why people are so biased against him. Difficult to believe that hard core fantasy players would avoid a player just because they have a distaste for Coors inflated stats.
Chance favors the prepared mind.
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Originally posted by sportsbettingman:
I've come to the conclusion it's time for me to break out the Matt Holliday Voodoo curse.
Sorry in advance to all Holliday owners out there...he's going down for the count beginning today!
~Lance Thanks Lance, the voodoo was perfect. It got Holliday to hit a HR which my $250 Auction league so desparately needed!
I've come to the conclusion it's time for me to break out the Matt Holliday Voodoo curse.
Sorry in advance to all Holliday owners out there...he's going down for the count beginning today!
~Lance Thanks Lance, the voodoo was perfect. It got Holliday to hit a HR which my $250 Auction league so desparately needed!
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That curse was specifically done to begin at Midnight last night...thus when he played in his game yesterday...he was still curse-free!
We'll see the voodoo curse beginning to sink in starting today!!!
~Lance
We'll see the voodoo curse beginning to sink in starting today!!!
~Lance
"The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once."
~Albert Einstein
~Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by sportsbettingman:
That curse was specifically done to begin at Midnight last night...thus when he played in his game yesterday...he was still curse-free!
We'll see the voodoo curse beginning to sink in starting today!!!
~Lance Capuano today, Lance. Try starting it tomorrow with Gallardo
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That curse was specifically done to begin at Midnight last night...thus when he played in his game yesterday...he was still curse-free!
We'll see the voodoo curse beginning to sink in starting today!!!
~Lance Capuano today, Lance. Try starting it tomorrow with Gallardo
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I'll take one run, and batting .200 as a nice start to the CURSE!!!
I just wrote a little "Where I was/how life was" when Bonds broke Hanks record...for a keepsake...kinda like a snapshot of life!
F-it...here it is.
BONDS Hits 756!!!
8/7/07
On this day...
I worked 2 jobs...Los Altos Hills with an idiot, and Burlingame with "El" Salvador. (stairs)
Ana had Sergio and Laura over for lunch...Ana was blunt with Laura (no religion teaching by others to the kids in her home), and Sergio had fun playing Guitar Hero with Lancey and Waylon!
I kicked Brett's butt in "Kill for China 3" (Command and Conquer Kane's revenge?) Had the perfect win game!
We debated WCOFF selections via Yahoo Instant Messenger...
Woke Ana up, and gave her a kiss when I found out Bonds broke Hanks record! (She was tired and sleeping) Wanted her to have a recall to the moment...had to break her slumber.
Isn't life grand?!
Hell yes it is!
~Lance (I could have edited out the kiss...but that's just not me.)
[ August 08, 2007, 01:08 AM: Message edited by: sportsbettingman ]
I just wrote a little "Where I was/how life was" when Bonds broke Hanks record...for a keepsake...kinda like a snapshot of life!
F-it...here it is.
BONDS Hits 756!!!
8/7/07
On this day...
I worked 2 jobs...Los Altos Hills with an idiot, and Burlingame with "El" Salvador. (stairs)
Ana had Sergio and Laura over for lunch...Ana was blunt with Laura (no religion teaching by others to the kids in her home), and Sergio had fun playing Guitar Hero with Lancey and Waylon!
I kicked Brett's butt in "Kill for China 3" (Command and Conquer Kane's revenge?) Had the perfect win game!
We debated WCOFF selections via Yahoo Instant Messenger...
Woke Ana up, and gave her a kiss when I found out Bonds broke Hanks record! (She was tired and sleeping) Wanted her to have a recall to the moment...had to break her slumber.
Isn't life grand?!
Hell yes it is!
~Lance (I could have edited out the kiss...but that's just not me.)
[ August 08, 2007, 01:08 AM: Message edited by: sportsbettingman ]
"The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once."
~Albert Einstein
~Albert Einstein
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Congrats Lance, Although many don't share your enthusiasm, I'm happy for you. Now we'll see if it takes Holliday longer to hit his next home run than it did for Bonds to hit 755.
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There goes the ERA!
Milwaukee
IP H R ER BB K HR Season ERA
Y. Gallardo 2.2 12 11 11 3 1 2 4.20
(Shaking head) Managers these days.
Know when to say when!
~Lance
[ August 08, 2007, 03:25 PM: Message edited by: sportsbettingman ]
Milwaukee
IP H R ER BB K HR Season ERA
Y. Gallardo 2.2 12 11 11 3 1 2 4.20
(Shaking head) Managers these days.
Know when to say when!
~Lance
[ August 08, 2007, 03:25 PM: Message edited by: sportsbettingman ]
"The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once."
~Albert Einstein
~Albert Einstein