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interesting mock
Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:05 pm
by Thunder
i recently did a mock using the 16 round NFBC expert mag draft as my base grid. the draft was set up like an NFBC draft, only 23 rounds. i was able to draft all 23 players from the 16 round mag expert draft except one. i took scott baker in the 21st round.
1-4 d wright
2-12 r martin
3-4 d lee
4-12 m young
5-4 f rodriguez
6-12 p konerko
7-4 p polanco
8-12 b sheets
9-4 j hamilton
10-12 j soria
11-4 j chamberlain
12-12 k johnson
13-4 g soto
14-12 e longoria
15-4 d dejesus
16-12 j kubel
17-4 j broxton
18-12 z greinke
19-4 h bailey
20-12 h kuroda
21-4 s baker
22-12 m bradley
23-4 wm pena
no player was taken in an earlier round than in the expert draft. according to the draft projections from the draft, i have the 14th best team in the draft. (out of 15) just thought it was interesting.
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:11 pm
by Bobby J
I like the 2nd half of this team a lot better than the first half
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:15 pm
by Thunder
i didn't think it was that bad a team, except for an absence of quality SP, but it didn't calculate very well at all with their programs projections.
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:20 pm
by Bobby J
Martin, Young, Polanco, Sheets, Hamilton and Soria, I think are all too early, age and injuries can crush this team. Where I think there is real value on 3 or 4 players drafted in the 2nd half
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:23 pm
by Thunder
Originally posted by Bobby J:
Martin, Young, Polanco, Sheets, Hamilton and Soria, I think are all too early, age and injuries can crush this team. Where I think there is real value on 3 or 4 players drafted in the 2nd half i understand, but if you look at where my guys were drafted versus where they were taken in the mag draft, this should be a good team.
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:26 pm
by Bobby J
I know I am just looking at the team you posted and not the rest, but I would not be real happy with this team in the real draft in March
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:28 pm
by Thunder
Originally posted by Bobby J:
I know I am just looking at the team you posted and not the rest, but I would not be real happy with this team in the real draft in March me either, that's why i thought it was interesting.
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:47 pm
by Plymouth
Polanco in the 7th and Johnson in the 12th is interesting to say the least. The lacks of SP dooms this team I think.
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:57 pm
by Gordon Gekko
Your SP is dreadful
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:02 pm
by Thunder
Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:
Your SP is dreadful i love the "sugarcoating"
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:10 pm
by Gordon Gekko
Sheets as a #1 and chamberlin as a #2. 'Dreadful' was sugarcoating
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:14 pm
by Thunder
sheets was the 14th SP taken in the mag experts draft. i'm not trying to justify this, you just have to ubderstand how i did it.
[ January 05, 2008, 07:16 PM: Message edited by: cleaver beavers ]
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:22 pm
by Gordon Gekko
Originally posted by cleaver beavers:
sheets was the 14th SP taken in the mag experts draft. i'm not trying to justify this, you just have to ubderstand how i did it. Oh. That makes it okay then.
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:31 pm
by Thunder
not at all. i did this with a specific plan, using the mag draft, and it backfired. but i drafted 22 of 23 rounds with 16 rounds of players from the mag draft. it just didn't work out like i thought it would. guess i blew it.
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:50 pm
by Gordon Gekko
You keep talking like this mag draft is the bible. it's a free mag draft!!!!!!!!!!!
But relax, you didn't blow anything, it's just a mock
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:46 pm
by Thunder
how about this one? 7th pick.
holliday
vladdy
tori
webb
krod
verlander
j shields
gallardo
capps
snell
garko
blalock
k greene
f sanchez
longoria
wigginton
kubel
towles
doumit
r betancourt
maddux
pie
gathright
weak on SB's for sure
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 3:45 pm
by King of Queens
Originally posted by cleaver beavers:
how about this one? 7th pick.
holliday
vladdy
tori
webb
krod
verlander
j shields
gallardo
capps
snell
garko
blalock
k greene
f sanchez
longoria
wigginton
kubel
towles
doumit
r betancourt
maddux
pie
gathright
weak on SB's for sure Weak in all offensive categories
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:03 pm
by Richie
Cant go for pitchers at #4 to #9- suicide
Hope you end up in my league
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:44 pm
by Chest Rockwell
Originally posted by Richie:
Cant go for pitchers at #4 to #9- suicide
Hope you end up in my league Do you really hope he ends up in your league? I agree with you it is a horrible strategy IMO and one I am sure he will correct before draft day, but IMO it raises a good question-
He helps you a lot in your league, but he also makes pitching very scarce relative and could make it next to impossible to compete in the overall because he hords so much pitching. I would love to see what the extreme number crunchers think but on the surface a very poorly balanced team could help you in the league while severely hurting you in the main?
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:28 pm
by baggler
As a stated too much pitching taken early..I don't think Webb lasts til 4.8 and alot of what if's late...... Longoria,Pie,Towles,Kubel Blalock
There's no sb's there tough team to compete for a title with,coulda used a ci and another power bat from 5-9.....good luck CB.
And Chest I agree with you that it would be hard to compete for the overall with that team in your league. And it's rare to have a team load up on pitching early it's usually hitting and than the panic button on pitching.
CB, interesting draft !!!
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:36 pm
by Richie
I see little effect on the overall. Webb, Verlander and Shields still leaves a huge amt of guys who can be taken. I would imagine teams in my real draft will take these guys around the same pick# anyway. Am I missing something?
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:42 pm
by Thunder
i've been trying different approaches...it wasn't my intentions, but i really think this team could screw up a draft and do ok. hunter in the 3rd was a mistake, not sure about kubel, pie, or gathright. but there's nothing wrong with going in with great pitching is there? knowing you have holliday, vlad, and tori leading your offense.
[ January 06, 2008, 11:58 PM: Message edited by: cleaver beavers ]
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 6:12 pm
by Thunder
critique please. 13th pick
braun
teixeira
tulowitzki
putz
hart
cano
matsuzaka
j shields
gallardo
snell
taveras
capps
blalock
hamilton
longoria
a hill
bourn
doumit
paulino
r betancourt
gathright
sonnanstine
otsuka
i believe this team could compete
[ January 07, 2008, 12:20 AM: Message edited by: cleaver beavers ]
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:37 am
by Joe Sambito
Third times the charm? Definitely much better than the others. Three Judy's (Taveras, Bourn, and Gathright) are a problem, but there is alot to like about this team.
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 3:51 am
by Vander
Originally posted by Richie:
I see little effect on the overall. Webb, Verlander and Shields still leaves a huge amt of guys who can be taken. I would imagine teams in my real draft will take these guys around the same pick# anyway. Am I missing something? Yeah, no offense, but I see what Chest is saying and agree. If 1 guy takes too much pitching early it forces the hand of the others that either get less pitching themselves or have to take their pitchers early too. Possibly wrecking your overall plan cause some won't reach and will continue to feast on all the offense left while some will continue to take pitching too early in order to be able to compete in those cats. Nobody may come out of it with a balanced team and nobody can win the big enchilada from your league because 1 guy maybe screwed up the whole league. I think this can be overcome. I'm not saying it's impossible to win in a league like this, but it does present another obsticle.