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How could this happen?...Look what a team..I know most of you are probably wondering....what was left?...seriously--thoughts please....



1B. Conor Jackson P. Brad Penny

2B. Rickie Weeks P. Ted Lilley

SS. Hanley Ramirez P. Jeff Francis

3B. Adrian Beltre P. Derek Lowe

CM. Mike Lowell P. Dontrelle Willis

MM. Alexi Ramirez P. Micah Owings

Utl. F.Guiterrez P. Jeremy Accardo

OF. Magglio Ordonez P. George Sherrill

OF. Alex Rios p. J. Papelbon

OF. Raul Ibanez

OF. Pat Burrell Bench

OF. Colby Rasmus Geoff Jenkins

C. Miguel Olivo Chase Headley

C. Chris Snyder Jacque Jones

Jeff Clement

Brandon Wood (ANA start SS)

Jeff Baker (Col Starting 2B)

Mike Rabelo

In my best Clara Peller voice, "Where's the pitching?"

Fighting for money!



C Carlos Ruiz

C Brian Schneider

1B Ryan Howard

3B Edwin Encarnacion

CI Eric Chavez

2B Rickie Weeks

SS Orlando Cabrera

MI Ryan Theriot

OF Nick Markakis

OF Adam Dunn

OF Johnny Damon

OF Justin Upton

OF Melky Cabrera

DH David Ortiz

SP Roy Oswalt

SP Chris Young

SP Tim Lincecum

SP Chien-Ming Wang

SP Andy Pettitte

SP Matt Garza

SP Ian Kennedy

RP Francisco Rodriguez

RP George Sherrill

Bench

Billy Butler DH(OF/1B???)

Jason Giambi DH (1B)

Mark DeRosa 2B,3B,OF

Andy LaRoche 3B

Franklin Morales SP

Manny Parra SP

Johnny Cueto SP

Hey Randy



I am in your Sat league. It was a tough draft I look at my team and see the same thing. Where did all the players go and how quickly SP's went. I was happy to get Dice K in the 6th to anchor my staff. 3B was also tough by you taking Beltre in 6th Gordon going in 7th and Lowell in 7th I was forced to take Encarnacion in the 8th even though I think he will have a breakout year I thought I coulg get him later. In retrospect I thought I would get Utley at 7 and planned around that scenario. If i knew 3b was going to be that tough I would have taken Miggy at 7 instead of Holliday. Oh well



Good Luck



Marty

Originally posted by MGBMARTY:

Hey Randy



I am in your Sat league. It was a tough draft I look at my team and see the same thing. Where did all the players go and how quickly SP's went. I was happy to get Dice K in the 6th to anchor my staff. 3B was also tough by you taking Beltre in 6th Gordon going in 7th and Lowell in 7th I was forced to take Encarnacion in the 8th even though I think he will have a breakout year I thought I coulg get him later. In retrospect I thought I would get Utley at 7 and planned around that scenario. If i knew 3b was going to be that tough I would have taken Miggy at 7 instead of Holliday. Oh well



Good Luck



Marty Wow Marty, it is so funny how so many draft differ so much. Even though I am new to it, that is what I think is really cool about baseball!



I drafted last night from the #14 and Chase Utley went ONE pick before me.



Ryan Zimmerman went at 7.13 (as I had him cued up!)



Gordon went with the last pick in the 7th (7.15).



Encarnacion went with the last pick in the 11th. (11.15)



Obviously 3rd basemen lasted longer in my draft, but I think pitching went fast, and the quality #3 and #4 guys dried up pretty quick.



I ended up starting off with Santana (which I wasn't counting on), and tried to put the best plan together that I could.



I got Dice K as my #2, and like you, I like him a lot this year!



Baseball is starting to grow on me!



Good luck!

You've had some good drafts billy. There's still time to get in the main event this year.



Imagine missing out on the 100K when u know u have a good skill base (which u do)

Hey Billy



You are right each draft is so unique. Utley at 13 in yours Utley at 5 in mine. Zimmerman in 5th in mine. Crazy. Nice having Johan and Dice K as a 1-2 punch. Johan went at 2-1 in mine. Usually most teams will lack somewhere. Hopefully you find a jewel later and manage to pick up where you lack in free agency. Hope my jewel is Votto as a CI. Good luck in BB this year. See you in NY for football I did not even realize that I was 4th lifetime in football. I will try to catch you there.



Marty

C Doumit Montero

1b A Gonz

2b Utley

SS Renteria

3b Blalock

1b/3b Garko

2b/ss Hudson

OF Abreu

OF Del Young

OF Pence

OF L Scott

OF Baldelli

Ut Matthews/Alou/Freel/Loretta

P Peavy

P Oswalt

P Pedro

P Street

P Broxton

P J Sanchez

P Silva

P Suppan

P Sonnastine/Pelfrey/Laffey/Schmidt/Lester



I have a heavy reliance on some high upside guys like pence scott young baldelli blalock etc -- team could be terrible or at the top -- my pitching is low on saves and weak at back end but im confident with top half being what it is I will be able to score well in the pitching cats -- well see it could go either way i think

Hey Todd... nice draft. That was absolutely BRUTAL, no? There were some folks that averaged over 1 min per pick. No more weekday 9p drafts for me...



You've got a great squad. Saw you taking massive pop off the board in Howard, Ortiz, and Dunn and knew I wasn't gonna win the HR cat



Not too upset with my squad. Good tuneup for the Main.



C Victor Martinez CLE R2 P11

C Jason Varitek BOS R16 P11

1B Joey Votto CIN R14 P11

2B Jeff Kent LA R11 P5

SS Jose Reyes NYM R1 P5

3B Aramis Ramirez CHC R3 P5

MI Brendan Harris MIN R20 P11

CI Richie Sexson SEA R17 P5

OF Jeff Francoeur ATL R7 P5

OF Andruw Jones LA R8 P11

OF Juan Pierre LA R9 P5

OF Jose Guillen KC R13 P5

OF Josh Willingham FLA R15 P5

UT Mike Jacobs FLA R19 P5

P John Lackey ANA R5 P5

P Felix Hernandez SEA R6 P11

P Pedro Martinez NYM R10 P11

P Kelvim Escobar ANA R12 P11

P Tom Glavine ATL R23 P5

P Anthony Reyes STL R26 P11

P Jonathan Papelbon BOS R4 P11

P Tom Gordon PHI R21 P5

P Juan Cruz ARI R22 P11



Bench

RP Dan Wheeler TB R24 P11

1B Aubrey Huff BAL R18 P11

P Aaron Cook COL R25 P5

2B Mark Grudzielanek KC R28 P11

OF Scott Hairston SD R27 P5

OF Cliff Floyd TB R29 P5

OF Marlon Byrd TEX R30 P11

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

You've had some good drafts billy. There's still time to get in the main event this year.



Imagine missing out on the 100K when u know u have a good skill base (which u do) Thanks!



I am tied up that weekend with some family commitments, but I admit that baseball is quite fun, and with an even better year of research next year (earlier prep), I feel I will be ready for the Main NEXT year.



Honestly, why would I even try and waste my $$ this year, when you already have the 100K check wrapped up?



[ March 06, 2008, 09:51 AM: Message edited by: billywaz ]

Billy - I have to agree with Mark: you are just delaying your success in the NFBC by waiting another year. Seriously man, I was impressed at the draft last night with how well you did for a "NFFC - no baseball" guy. There will be another learning curve in the main event, which is why you should get started this year - split a team with someone and get going.



Mark - really I have not gone back to look at the teams, run projections against the draft or analyze it, but BWaz made some Very Good picks.

Originally posted by MGBMARTY:

Hey Randy



I am in your Sat league. It was a tough draft I look at my team and see the same thing. Where did all the players go and how quickly SP's went. I was happy to get Dice K in the 6th to anchor my staff. 3B was also tough by you taking Beltre in 6th Gordon going in 7th and Lowell in 7th I was forced to take Encarnacion in the 8th even though I think he will have a breakout year I thought I coulg get him later. In retrospect I thought I would get Utley at 7 and planned around that scenario. If i knew 3b was going to be that tough I would have taken Miggy at 7 instead of Holliday. Oh well



Good Luck



Marty Yeah that was a tough draft last night Marty and Randy. Should be a tough league to win...



C Jorge Posada NYY

C John Buck KC

1B Todd Helton COL

1B Kevin Millar BAL

2B Brian Roberts BAL

SS J.J. Hardy MIL

SS Khalil Greene SD

SS Felipe Lopez WAS

3B Alex Rodriguez NYY

3B Andy LaRoche LA

3B Eric Chavez OAK

OF Curtis Granderson DET

OF Shane Victorino PHI

OF Josh Willingham FLA

OF Nate McLouth PIT

OF Xavier Nady PIT

OF Jack Cust OAK

OF Rajai Davis SF

SP Cole Hamels PHI

SP John Maine NYM

SP Dustin McGowan TOR

SP Joe Blanton OAK

SP Matt Garza TB

SP Shaun Marcum TOR

SP Noah Lowry SF

SP Mark Prior SD

SP Miguel Batista SEA

RP J.J. Putz SEA

RP Brad Lidge PHI

RP Joaquin Benoit TEX



[ March 06, 2008, 10:19 AM: Message edited by: Da bears ]

Hey Billy, I have some drink tickets in New York with your name on them.



Just sayin.

Originally posted by Tom Kessenich:

Hey Billy, I have some drink tickets in New York with your name on them.



Just sayin.



Gekko and I have been relentlessly harrassing Billy to sign up for the main event for over two months. Perhaps the drink tickets will be the Tipping Point.

Originally posted by King of Queens:

quote:Originally posted by Tom Kessenich:

Hey Billy, I have some drink tickets in New York with your name on them.



Just sayin.



Gekko and I have been relentlessly harrassing Billy to sign up for the main event for over two months. Perhaps the drink tickets will be the Tipping Point. [/QUOTE]You could tell him Snake is sharing a team with a guy and is secretly saying how he wants Billy in his league and knows he can't beat him. Promise Waz a way into Snakes league and you would have him just with a chance to whoop on him.

Originally posted by King of Queens:

quote:Originally posted by Tom Kessenich:

Hey Billy, I have some drink tickets in New York with your name on them.



Just sayin.



Gekko and I have been relentlessly harrassing Billy to sign up for the main event for over two months. Perhaps the drink tickets will be the Tipping Point. [/QUOTE]Obviously Tom knows the BEST way to entice me to come, but I just can't do it. I have family coming into town next weekend, my daughter and stepdaughter have "Star Search",etc.



I am 99% sure I will be there in 2009, and hopefully with a little luck, I won't be paying!



[ March 06, 2008, 10:36 AM: Message edited by: billywaz ]

Originally posted by Captain Hook:

Billy - I have to agree with Mark: you are just delaying your success in the NFBC by waiting another year. Seriously man, I was impressed at the draft last night with how well you did for a "NFFC - no baseball" guy. There will be another learning curve in the main event, which is why you should get started this year - split a team with someone and get going.



Mark - really I have not gone back to look at the teams, run projections against the draft or analyze it, but BWaz made some Very Good picks. Thanks for the nice words Perry, as coming from you they mean a lot.



I feel I did do a decent amount of research, and that some of it is going to waste since I only did two $125 satellites, but I just can't do it that weekend.



Teaming up with someone isn't an option. I did that ONCE (a long time ago in a local league) and it was a disaster. Whether it is football or baseball, I want to make all my decisions whether they are good, bad, or ugly!



Thanks again Perry!



[ March 06, 2008, 10:43 AM: Message edited by: billywaz ]

Originally posted by Captain Hook:



Mark - really I have not gone back to look at the teams, run projections against the draft or analyze it, but BWaz made some Very Good picks. he made some quality "adp" picks, but i do see a lot of driftwood on the team



overall - good team

Hey Billy,



This baseball thing is starting to grow on me also.



I'm really looking forward to my first NFBC main event next weekend!! Looks like I will have to try to win it this year since you will be in the NFBC main event next year.



Good luck with your satellite teams this year.



[ March 06, 2008, 11:06 AM: Message edited by: Da bears ]

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Captain Hook:



Mark - really I have not gone back to look at the teams, run projections against the draft or analyze it, but BWaz made some Very Good picks. he made some quality "adp" picks, but i do see a lot of driftwood on the team



overall - good team [/QUOTE]Mark,



Which ones do you feel were "ADP driftwood" picks? I am just curious.



Thanks!

One man's driftwood is another man's liferaft!

Mark,



Shoot me a PM of the picks you didn't like. I am always willing to listen to opinions.



Thanks!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Lost Sailor:

[QB] Hey Todd... nice draft. That was absolutely BRUTAL, no? There were some folks that averaged over 1 min per pick. No more weekday 9p drafts for me...



i was in that draft and couldn't believe all the crying about time for pks. my brother was in another satellite that started at the same time ours did and theirs finished almost 15 min's after ours! i asked him if ppl were whinin' about time for pks, he said no. if you live on the east coast and hafta get up early the next day perhaps you shouldn't have gotten into a 9 p.m. draft.



i say this as one of the guys who drafted quite fast, maybe 3-4 pks took longer than 10-15 sec's. isn't the draft the thing we look fwd to? also it's not like some of these complainers had their pks ready each rd. bottom line we all payed the same, if ya don't like it, don't do it. i am the guy who let reyes "fall" btw, i'd rather take my chances w/ jroll.

I was OK with the draft, my first one was done a little faster than the one last night. I think what sucked was that we had 3 owners in a row who took thier max time each round. We had 60 Picks that took 75 seconds or more and 9 picks took the full 90 seconds. That's over 75 minutes for two rounds of picks. Like I said I was OK with the draft but when you wait 8 minutes for ten picks till your next turn is a long wait for some when your use to mocks where it would take one to two minutes.

i went back & looked at the draft results and w/ the exception of lingering over taking mclouth in rd 18 (58 sec's) i had 1 pk take 28 sec's & the rest were under 22. in fact 19 of 30 rds i picked in < 10 sec's. That being said i have no prob w/ ppl using their alloted time. it gives me a chance to look over players & compare, strategize, etc. i understand the frustration for some, but we can't all be gordon gekkos!