Not bad from the 15th spot..

Likewhat17 · Post by **Likewhat17** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:09 am

Drafted in the $250 satellite league 2 last night from the 15 hole, and think I did very well considering it was my last choice in the KDS settings.. Any opinions out there?

R1 P15 1B Albert Pujols, STL

R2 P1 OF Alfonso Soriano, CHC

R3 P15 OF Bobby Abreu, NYY

R4 P1 DH Travis Hafner, CLE

R5 P15 SP Aaron Harang, CIN

R6 P1 SP Scott Kazmir, TB

R7 P15 C Jorge Posada, NYY

R8 P1 SP Francisco Liriano, MIN

R9 P15 RP Jose Valverde, HOU

R10 P1 SP Chien-Ming Wang, NYY

R11 P15 3B Hank Blalock, TEX

R12 P1 2B Kaz Matsui, HOU

R13 P15 SS Khalil Greene, SD

R14 P1 1B Carlos Delgado, NYM

R15 P15 OF Jose Guillen, KC

R16 P1 RP Troy Percival, TB

R17 P15 RP George Sherrill, BAL

R18 P1 OF Milton Bradley, TEX

R19 P15 SP Mark Buehrle, CHW

R20 P1 OF Dave Roberts, SF

R21 P15 C Yadier Molina, STL

R22 P1 SS Jack Wilson, PIT

R23 P15 3B Eric Chavez, OAK

R24 P1 OF Cameron Maybin, FLA

R25 P15 OF Jacque Jones, DET

R26 P1 SP Carlos Silva, SEA

R27 P15 SP Franklin Morales, COL

R28 P1 2B Ray Durham, SF

R29 P15 SP Kevin Millwood, TEX

R30 P1 C Yorvit Torrealba, COL

Potter · Post by **Potter** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:18 am

Pujols, Soriano, Hafner, Kazmir, Liriano, Blalock, Kaz, Delgado, Guillen, Percival, Sherrill, Bradley, Roberts, Chavez. That's 14 of your top 23 picks that have question marks surrounding them? More ? then the avg player anyway. If the top 5 can perform up to snuff, you could be pretty good. Not a team for the faint of heart.

headhunters · Post by **headhunters** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:20 am

i like the ist 9 picks a lot

Likewhat17 · Post by **Likewhat17** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:35 am

I know there are a lot of potential question marks Potter, but if those guys perform the way they're capable of.. especially Pujols, Hafner and Liriano, I think i'll have a very good team

Wax_Poetic · Post by **Wax_Poetic** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:57 am

Yes, an assortment of injury risks (high risk, high reward). But if all falls into place, you should do really well. I personally love getting the wheel pick at the end.

Pujols, if he plays all year, will be the steal of the year at #15.

I'm a bit worried about Delgado. He's too fragile for me nowadays, and now another hip ailment? Geez.

RedRum · Post by **RedRum** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:08 am

Originally posted by Potter:

Pujols, Soriano, Hafner, Kazmir, Liriano, Blalock, Kaz, Delgado, Guillen, Percival, Sherrill, Bradley, Roberts, Chavez. That's 14 of your top 23 picks that have question marks surrounding them? More ? then the avg player anyway. If the top 5 can perform up to snuff, you could be pretty good. Not a team for the faint of heart. I think your over stating the injuries.. If this was the case the entire league is an injury risk...

Yes there are a few risks but not 14..

What we can focus on is how you drafted 6 pitchers of your first 10 picks... Thats interesting..

[ March 06, 2008, 01:18 PM: Message edited by: RedRum ]

Less than Dave · Post by **Less than Dave** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:58 am

Originally posted by Likewhat17:

Drafted in the $250 satellite league 2 last night from the 15 hole, and think I did very well considering it was my last choice in the KDS settings.. Any opinions out there?

R1 P15 1B Albert Pujols, STL

R2 P1 OF Alfonso Soriano, CHC

R3 P15 OF Bobby Abreu, NYY

R4 P1 DH Travis Hafner, CLE

R5 P15 SP Aaron Harang, CIN

R6 P1 SP Scott Kazmir, TB

R7 P15 C Jorge Posada, NYY

R8 P1 SP Francisco Liriano, MIN

R9 P15 RP Jose Valverde, HOU

R10 P1 SP Chien-Ming Wang, NYY

R11 P15 3B Hank Blalock, TEX

R12 P1 2B Kaz Matsui, HOU

R13 P15 SS Khalil Greene, SD

R14 P1 1B Carlos Delgado, NYM

R15 P15 OF Jose Guillen, KC

R16 P1 RP Troy Percival, TB

R17 P15 RP George Sherrill, BAL

R18 P1 OF Milton Bradley, TEX

R19 P15 SP Mark Buehrle, CHW

R20 P1 OF Dave Roberts, SF

R21 P15 C Yadier Molina, STL

R22 P1 SS Jack Wilson, PIT

R23 P15 3B Eric Chavez, OAK

R24 P1 OF Cameron Maybin, FLA

R25 P15 OF Jacque Jones, DET

R26 P1 SP Carlos Silva, SEA

R27 P15 SP Franklin Morales, COL

R28 P1 2B Ray Durham, SF

R29 P15 SP Kevin Millwood, TEX

R30 P1 C Yorvit Torrealba, COL yuck. if you had drafted this team prior to the start of last season, I would have said you're Houdini (what an amazing draft!). But alas, a year has passed and many things have changed...now you'd have to be Houdini to escape all those risks you took. I don't like the players you took mid-late either, so in my opinion, I think you will struggle. Too much age and not enough youth limits your upside. Good luck!

Potter · Post by **Potter** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 8:11 am

Red Who on my list does not have a ? I didn't say injury risk btw. Should I repeat my statement, or is scrolling prowess in better shape than your reading comprehension?

[ March 06, 2008, 02:13 PM: Message edited by: Potter ]

Likewhat17 · Post by **Likewhat17** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 2:55 pm

Potter's right in that there are a ton of guys there who do have question marks with them.. but overall, i really think it's a very solid and well-balanced team.. I truly believe I'll be at/near the top of this league

RedRum · Post by **RedRum** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 4:18 pm

Originally posted by Potter:

Red Who on my list does not have a ? I didn't say injury risk btw. Should I repeat my statement, or is scrolling prowess in better shape than your reading comprehension? So whats yor definition of a ? I wouldnt get personal if i were u Harry

baggler · Post by **baggler** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 5:20 pm

Like what .

I think you a have a contending team if you stay healthy but the fact that you have both Liriano and Kazmir with Harang means either 600k's or 400k's if one of those two go down.

I think at the 10 pick you could have gotten a better SP strikeout guy there. I know you were trying to gain some wins.

With Hafner you left yourself no flexibility at the U so your basically punting Sb's with this team along with a suspect batting average.

You look pretty solid with saves if Valerde Percival and Sherill hold on to their jobs.

The problem I have is I count atleast 10 guys with possible injury problems.

A decent satelite team but as far as the main event you would be donating your money.

I wish you luck and hope you prove me wrong !!!

Bama · Post by **Bama** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 5:21 pm

that team is awful. half of them start the on dl and the other start on the bench or in the minors. by far the worst team in league and there are 4 or 5 really bad teams in the league

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:15 pm

Great first 15 picks...and a sprinkle of talent after that.

The nay sayers are full of **** .

Full of **** .

~Lance

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:16 pm

It's either INJURY PROBLEM, or not

...adding "possible" applies to every single MLB player.

~Lance

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:27 pm

Originally posted by KLN:

that team is awful. half of them start the on dl and the other start on the bench or in the minors. by far the worst team in league and there are 4 or 5 really bad teams in the league Hey KLN...

Please post here which half starts in the minors...and which half starts on the DL.

~Lance

[ March 08, 2008, 12:09 PM: Message edited by: sportsbettingman ]

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:53 pm

Originally posted by sportsbettingman:

quote:Originally posted by KLN:

that team is awful. half of them start the on dl and the other start on the bench or in the minors. by far the worst team in league and there are 4 or 5 really bad teams in the league Please post here which half starts in the minors...and which half starts on the DL.

~Lance [/QUOTE]Gotta agree, 19 of 30 could have playing time issues. Too many risks to work.

Significant DL Risk

R1 P15 1B Albert Pujols, STL elbow

R2 P1 OF Alfonso Soriano, CHC quad/finger

R6 P1 SP Scott Kazmir, TB elbow

R8 P1 SP Francisco Liriano, MIN elbow

R11 P15 3B Hank Blalock, TEX shoulder/whiplash

R12 P1 2B Kaz Matsui, HOU fragile

R14 P1 1B Carlos Delgado, NYM wrist/hip

R16 P1 RP Troy Percival, TB old

R17 P15 RP George Sherrill, BAL hammy

R18 P1 OF Milton Bradley, TEX knee/fragile

R23 P15 3B Eric Chavez, OAK back/ fragile

R28 P1 2B Ray Durham, SF shoulder

R29 P15 SP Kevin Millwood, TEX hammy

Platoon, Bench or Minors

R15 P15 OF Jose Guillen, KC suspension

R20 P1 OF Dave Roberts, SF platoon

R24 P1 OF Cameron Maybin, FLA platoon/minors

R25 P15 OF Jacque Jones, DET platoon

R27 P15 SP Franklin Morales, COL minors

R30 P1 C Yorvit Torrealba, COL platoon

Good to go

R3 P15 OF Bobby Abreu, NYY

R4 P1 DH Travis Hafner, CLE

R5 P15 SP Aaron Harang, CIN

R7 P15 C Jorge Posada, NYY

R9 P15 RP Jose Valverde, HOU

R10 P1 SP Chien-Ming Wang, NYY

R13 P15 SS Khalil Greene, SD

R19 P15 SP Mark Buehrle, CHW

R21 P15 C Yadier Molina, STL

R22 P1 SS Jack Wilson, PIT

R26 P1 SP Carlos Silva, SEA

[ March 08, 2008, 01:07 AM: Message edited by: KJ Duke ]

Less than Dave · Post by **Less than Dave** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:02 pm

Originally posted by sportsbettingman:

Great first 15 picks...and a sprinkle of talent after that.

The nay sayers are full of **** .

Full of **** .

~Lance Lance, in those first 15 picks, you have:

Pujols - guaranteed DL at some point

Soriano - not running much this year, 15 SB tops

Abreu - getting older, SB won't keep comin... power is already dwindled but not a bad pick because of lineup

Hafner - he's a DH... limits flexibility but could still be a good pick if he reverts back to the Hafner that I know and love

Harang - very solid

Kazmir - wins will be tough to come by just like last year, high WHIP, injury concerns

Posada - fine as long as you expect his pre-2007 numbers again

Liriano - won't be at full strength until May at least.. 150 IP max I'd say with a 80-100 pitch count every game for awhile

Valverde - inconsistent injury-prone closer pitching in a bandbox

Wang - no K's, overrated

Blalock - won't have full strength in shoulder this year

Matsui - SB and R if he stays in the 2 hole and that's it

Greene - horrendous avg

Delgado - he's broken, guaranteed DL/diminishing skills, he's done

Guillen - missing first 15 games, then comes back to hit in the Royals lineup in a pitcher's park

Lots of injuries, question marks on just about every player, and about the least amount of upside I have ever seen on a team. He didn't even pick a player who was a rookie within the last 3 years other than Liriano... this team has nowhere to go but down. Call us full of **** if you want, but at the end of the season you'll see we weren't.

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:06 pm

Willing to ridicule a person over your bullshit projections based on speculation and nothing more...nice.

The day you can predict health and injury and drive to ANY DEGREE of accuracy...call me...you'll have a full time job.

~Lance

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:10 pm

At least 10 of these 13 players will spend time on the DL this season. Wager?

Significant DL Risk

R1 P15 1B Albert Pujols, STL elbow

R2 P1 OF Alfonso Soriano, CHC quad/finger

R6 P1 SP Scott Kazmir, TB elbow

R8 P1 SP Francisco Liriano, MIN elbow

R11 P15 3B Hank Blalock, TEX shoulder/whiplash

R12 P1 2B Kaz Matsui, HOU fragile

R14 P1 1B Carlos Delgado, NYM wrist/hip

R16 P1 RP Troy Percival, TB old

R17 P15 RP George Sherrill, BAL hammy

R18 P1 OF Milton Bradley, TEX knee/fragile

R23 P15 3B Eric Chavez, OAK back/ fragile

R28 P1 2B Ray Durham, SF shoulder

R29 P15 SP Kevin Millwood, TEX hammy

[ March 08, 2008, 01:14 AM: Message edited by: KJ Duke ]

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:14 pm

Most of those are last rounders.

C'mon, Kevin!

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:16 pm

Originally posted by sportsbettingman:

Most of those are last rounders.

C'mon, Kevin! 11 of the 13 are top 23 rds = starters. It's just an offer, you don't have to accept.

Could be a fun bet though, watching them, one by one, hit the DL! ... 9 or less you win, 10 or more I win, plus a "per DL bonus" for anything below 9 or over 10.

[ March 08, 2008, 01:19 AM: Message edited by: KJ Duke ]

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:20 pm

I'd bet no more than 10 of his first 23 picks end up on the DL.

~Lance

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:21 pm

Originally posted by sportsbettingman:

I'd bet no more than 10 of his first 23 picks end up on the DL.

~Lance I'd take that too, whichever you like better.

KJ Duke · Post by **KJ Duke** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:28 pm

If 10 or less go DL, you win. If 11 or more, I win. 200 stones plus a bonus of 50 for every one below 10 or above 11?

R1 P15 1B Albert Pujols, STL

R2 P1 OF Alfonso Soriano, CHC

R3 P15 OF Bobby Abreu, NYY

R4 P1 DH Travis Hafner, CLE

R5 P15 SP Aaron Harang, CIN

R6 P1 SP Scott Kazmir, TB

R7 P15 C Jorge Posada, NYY

R8 P1 SP Francisco Liriano, MIN

R9 P15 RP Jose Valverde, HOU

R10 P1 SP Chien-Ming Wang, NYY

R11 P15 3B Hank Blalock, TEX

R12 P1 2B Kaz Matsui, HOU

R13 P15 SS Khalil Greene, SD

R14 P1 1B Carlos Delgado, NYM

R15 P15 OF Jose Guillen, KC

R16 P1 RP Troy Percival, TB

R17 P15 RP George Sherrill, BAL

R18 P1 OF Milton Bradley, TEX

R19 P15 SP Mark Buehrle, CHW

R20 P1 OF Dave Roberts, SF

R21 P15 C Yadier Molina, STL

R22 P1 SS Jack Wilson, PIT

R23 P15 3B Eric Chavez, OAK

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:28 pm

I'd bet that, KJ!

11 DL'd you win...10 DL's or less..I win.

Of the first 23 picks.

~Lance