***Invalid Positions Listed on STATS***

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:39 am

I'm going through the STATS player lists to cross-reference our position-eligibility lists. So far, I've found at least 15 mistakes:

Russ Adams - STATS has him listed at 3B, NFBC rules has him at Utility (2007: 27 games played, 3B-16, DH-7, 2B-2)

Eliezer Alfonzo - STATS has him listed at Catcher, NFBC has him at Utility (as per 2008 NFBC Eligibility List)

Clint Barmes - STATS has him listed at Shortstop, NFBC rules has him at Utility (2007: 27 games played, SS-8, 2B-5, OF-5, 3B-1)

Henry Blanco - STATS has him listed at Catcher, NFBC rules has him at Utility (2007: 22 games played, C-14, 1B-2)

Juan Castro - STATS has him listed at 3B, NFBC rules has him at Utility (2007: 54 games played, 3B-17, SS-16, 2B-8)

Ronny Cedeno - STATS has him listed at Shortstop, NFBC rules has him at Utility (2007: 38 games played, SS-15, 2B-8, 3B-4)

Alex Cintron - STATS has him listed at 3B, NFBC has him at Utility (as per 2008 NFBC Eligibility List)

Julio Franco - STATS has him listed at 1B, NFBC rules has him at Utility (2007: 55 games played, 1B-16, 3B-2, DH-1)

D'Angelo Jimenez - STATS has him listed at SS, NFBC rules has him at Utility (2007: 73 games played, SS-11, 2B-10, 3B-1)

Matt Kata - STATS has him listed at 3B, NFBC rules has him at Utility (2007: 78 games played, 3B-17, OF-13, 2B-12, SS-9, 1B-4, DH-3)

Andy Marte - STATS has him listed at Third Baseman, NFBC has him at Utility (2007: 20 games played, 3B-19)

Pablo Ozuna - STATS has him listed at Third Baseman, NFBC rules has him at Utility (2007: 27 games played, 3B-9, OF-7, DH-7, 2B-3, SS-1)

Olmedo Saenz - STATS has him listed at 1B, NFBC rules has him at Utility (2007: 92 games played, 1B-13, DH-5, 3B-3)

Mark Sweeney - STATS has him listed at 1B, NFBC rules has him at Utility (2007: 106 games played, 1B-13, OF-10)

Daryle Ward - STATS has him listed at First Baseman, NFBC rules has him at Utility (2007: 79 games played, 1B-16, OF-11)

All of these would fall under Rule 6 concerning Position Eligibility:

e) Players who played 20 or more games in the majors last year and didn't play 20 or more games at one position will be deemed UT-only eligible in 2008 unless otherwise designated by the NFBC Commissioner. The NFBC Commissioner will rule on player eligibility prior to the draft as he deems necessary. Those eligibility lists are final.

It seems that STATS is missing this component of the rules in determining position eligibility. Greg/Tom, please alert them to this error.

RedRum · Post by **RedRum** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:40 am

You have a lot of time on your hands!!!

But this is a true contribution this site... thanks...

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:00 am

Two more:

Brandon Fahey - STATS has him listed at Shortstop, NFBC rules has him at Utility (2007: 40 games played, SS-18, 2B-9, OF-7, 3B-2, DH-3)

Robby Hammock - STATS has him listed at Catcher, NFBC rules has him at Utility (2007: 34 games played, C-12, OF-7, 3B-4, 1B-1)

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:10 am

Great job, KOQ, better now than after the season begins.

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:16 am

Here's an interesting one:

Brian Myrow - STATS has him listed at First Baseman, NFBC rules should have him at Utility (2007: 12 games played, zero appearances at a postion)

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:30 am

Two more:

Martin Prado - STATS has him listed at Second Baseman, NFBC rules has him at Utility (2007: 24 games played, 2B-10, 3B-9)

Oscar Robles - STATS has him listed at Second Baseman, NFBC rules has him at Utility (2007: 24 games played, 2B-8, 3B-4)

Crazy Like a Fox · Post by **Crazy Like a Fox** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:36 am

Originally posted by King of Queens:

Two more:

Martin Prado - STATS has him listed at Second Baseman, NFBC rules has him at Utility (2007: 24 games played, 2B-10, 3B-9)

Oscar Robles - STATS has him listed at Second Baseman, NFBC rules has him at Utility (2007: 24 games played, 2B-8, 3B-4) Wow. You are the research king. Great work.

GOD Loves You · Post by **GOD Loves You** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 2:05 pm

Glenn, what about Jack Cust?

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 2:27 pm

Originally posted by GOD Loves You:

Glenn, what about Jack Cust?

They got this one right.

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 3:40 pm

Okay, I believe these are the last four with incorrect positions listed:

Marlon Anderson - STATS has him listed at Outfield, NFBC rules has him at Utility (2007: 66 games played, OF-16, 1B-3, 2B-1, DH-3)

Joe Dillon - STATS has him listed at Outfield, NFBC rules has him at Utility (2007: 39 games played, OF-9, 1B-5, 2B-3, 3B-3)

Paul McAnulty - STATS has him listed at Outfield, NFBC rules has him at Utility (2007: 20 games, OF-9)

Kevin Thompson - STATS has him listed at Outfiled, NFBC rules has him at Utility (2007: 22 games, OF-19, DH-3)

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 1:36 am

KoQ - are u that good to get all of them? Is kendry on the list?

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 1:54 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

KoQ - are u that good to get all of them? Is kendry on the list? Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

I'm going to take the Executive Decision route on both players and keep them eligible at their current positions. Both played more in the minors last year than in the majors and taking their situations into account I've just decided to give them position eligibility to start the season.

Morales remains qualified at 1B

Callaspo remains qualifed at 3B

Both qualify under the NFBC authority to designate certain players as eligible as deemed necessary. Morales is on the First Basemen list. Check.

Callaspo is on the Third Basemen list. Check.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 1:57 am

yep, you're that good.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 5:05 am

I sent all of these examples to STATS this morning and we'll confer on Monday to make sure we have these correct this week before FAAB is run. Thanks Glenn for checking these over and hopefully we'll have smooth sailing this FAAB season. Jack Cust aged me in dog years last year (or was that just Gekko who aged me in dog years?) and we'd all like to avoid that this year!!

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 3:42 am

Greg, any update on this? It appears the players listed above still have incorrect positions.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:06 am

Originally posted by King of Queens:

Greg, any update on this? It appears the players listed above still have incorrect positions. They were all sent to STATS yesterday morning. I've sent them the updated criteria as well, which obviously was overlooked. I trust the adjustments will be made soon as we're correcting final rosters right now. Keep an eye on it and let me know.

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:20 am

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

quote:Originally posted by King of Queens:

Greg, any update on this? It appears the players listed above still have incorrect positions. They were all sent to STATS yesterday morning. I've sent them the updated criteria as well, which obviously was overlooked. I trust the adjustments will be made soon as we're correcting final rosters right now. Keep an eye on it and let me know. [/QUOTE]Will do, Greg. Thanks for the update.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:58 pm

These should all be listed correctly now. KOQ can double check for us.

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 1:28 pm

Looks good, Greg.

Curious about something -- did you have STATS change the eligibilities for these 24 players, or did you give them the global rule (6.e) to make their entire database (present and future) adhere?

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 2:29 am

Originally posted by King of Queens:

Looks good, Greg.

Curious about something -- did you have STATS change the eligibilities for these 24 players, or did you give them the global rule (6.e) to make their entire database (present and future) adhere? I gave them our 2008 rules, which they will apply to any new call-up during the season. But yes, I told them which ones we had to manually change because of my rulings before Draft Day. Since everyone had our eligibility lists on Draft Day, they obviously had to coincide on the web site now, which STATS applied. Again, any call-up going forward will be dealt with according to our 2008 eligibility guidelines.