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We won't be seeing Mr Liriano again until May (at the earliest)...



TORCHED BY SINGLE A HITTERS 2NITE!!!!



5.1 innings

6 Hits (5 doubles)

2 BB

4 ER







[ April 25, 2008, 06:08 PM: Message edited by: Gordon Gekko ]

The way your pitching is going that may be the only hope for about 389 of us.



I thought Mcgowan looked really good tonight considering his recent illness.

Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

The way your pitching is going that may be the only hope for about 389 of us.



I thought Mcgowan looked really good tonight considering his recent illness. it's only one week. there is a SP available in my league that likely is gone in 99% of all the other leagues. I'm thinking he could be a GREAT "fill-in" until Liriano gets back. Read your PM's...

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

The way your pitching is going that may be the only hope for about 389 of us.



I thought Mcgowan looked really good tonight considering his recent illness. it's only one week. there is a SP available in my league that likely is gone in 99% of all the other leagues. I'm thinking he could be a GREAT "fill-in" until Liriano gets back. Read your PM's... [/QUOTE]Nick Blackburn or Ryan Dempster?



Liriano struck out 8 and his stuff looked "very good". As long as he's not feeling any pain you've got quite a pitcher on your hands in a couple weeks. No need to worry. His stats in the minors shouldn't be a concern. It's his health. He should be dominant this year.

Originally posted by Crazy Like a Fox:

Nick Blackburn or Ryan Dempster?



Liriano struck out 8 and his stuff looked "very good". As long as he's not feeling any pain you've got quite a pitcher on your hands in a couple weeks. No need to worry. His stats in the minors shouldn't be a concern. It's his health. He should be dominant this year. no. those two guys are available in a lot of leagues. they are typical waiver wires guys (will bounce to and from waivers 3 or 4 times this year).



liriano's stuff "looks good" against SINGLE A pitchers? i look at the stat line to tell me what i need to know. liriano won't be up till may (at the earliest).

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Crazy Like a Fox:

Nick Blackburn or Ryan Dempster?



Liriano struck out 8 and his stuff looked "very good". As long as he's not feeling any pain you've got quite a pitcher on your hands in a couple weeks. No need to worry. His stats in the minors shouldn't be a concern. It's his health. He should be dominant this year. no. those two guys are available in a lot of leagues. they are typical waiver wires guys (will bounce to and from waivers 3 or 4 times this year).



liriano's stuff "looks good" against SINGLE A pitchers? i look at the stat line to tell me what i need to know. liriano won't be up till may (at the earliest). [/QUOTE]You're not serious are you?



"I think he threw the ball fine," Miracle manager Jeff Smith told the Fort Myers News-Press. "His fastball, it looked like it was jumping. I think the last two innings you could really see the stuff start to come. There was some life on his fastball. There was a good break on his slider."



I'll say it again. His stats even against Single A hitters don't matter. It's his health and his stuff that matters. Those two things are fine.



You are either the "King of Misinformation" or the King of Misguided Information.

First liriano was a lock to make the rotation out of spring training.



Next he had a lackluster spring and got shipped to the minors.



NOW he is having trouble with single A hitters.



Next will be that he needs to start 4 or 5 games at triple a.



Crazy, u need to get it through your head. We won't be seeing Liriano in the majors until his minor league performance improves.

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

First liriano was a lock to make the rotation out of spring training.



Next he had a lackluster spring and got shipped to the minors.



NOW he is having trouble with single A hitters.



Next will be that he needs to start 4 or 5 games at triple a.



Crazy, u need to get it through your head. We won't be seeing Liriano in the majors until his minor league performance improves. Um, just like we won't be seeing Soriano hit leadoff this year?



You act like Liriano needs to prove he can pitch in the major leagues. He just needs to prove he can go a certain amount of pitches without any pain. That's it. Expect 4 GREAT months out Liriano. It's going to take him awhile before he "trusts" his arm again.

Liriano has said ALL SPRING that his arm feels fine. Twins management either doesn't believe him or they want to SEE his performance get better.



Last night got Liriano further away from the majors, not closer!

Crazy, did you read what Gardenhire, the Twins big league manager, said regarding Liriano??

Liriano will be back in the majors next week. Slowey having arm problems. They need someone to step in.

Originally posted by GOD Loves You:

Crazy, did you read what Gardenhire, the Twins big league manager, said regarding Liriano?? Yes. He said he wants to see his pitch count get up to 85 and continue to improve his location. If he doesn't do that he'll stay in the minors longer.



Big deal. He'll be up in with Minnesota after he completes his next two starts. MARK IT DOWN.



You guys read WAY too much into an off pitching day in the minors. It's not a big deal. He was late coming into spring training, he pitched well, no-hit through 4 innings in his last spring training start. He'll be fine.



I think right now, his body is getting adjusted again to pitching. It's hard not pitching for so long and coming back after an injury like that. He's not out there trying to prove that he belongs in the majors, he's just trying to get his pitch count up and improve location a little bit. That's it.



Relax guys, he'll be fine.

F Liriano may win the Cy young this year still......



he has been throwing since November, not like he just started in the spring....



i happily drafted F Liriano, Y gallardo, and Lackey....all fell far more than they should have....MARATHON< NOT A SPRINT

Just got a call from a freind in Minn. He said Liriano will pitch on Sunday. Anyone hear anything like that?



O, and Hardens condition, is a sore back. Nothing serious...well I hope not.

Harden's condition is that he is Rich Harden. He got hurt sitting on a plane? Please! I heard that he bought some antique samurai swords while in Japan and I bet he hurt himself playing war with his friends.



As for Franky Liriano, he'll start Sunday and pitch well. I hope....

Originally posted by k27orourke:

Just got a call from a freind in Minn. He said Liriano will pitch on Sunday. Anyone hear anything like that?

. Your friend already knows how liriano will pitch 2nite? If it's the same lackluster effort as last week, he won't even sniff the majors

From mlb.com:



Francisco Liriano, who is making his second Minor League start on Tuesday, would also be on track to start Sunday depending on how he fares for Rochester. If Slowey and Liriano are ready to go this weekend, there will be a decision to make in the rotation -- but Gardenhire isn't worrying about that just yet.



"First, we've got to see how [Liriano] does," Gardenhire said. "Then we'll make a decision on what we'll do. He should be stretched out to pretty close to 100 pitches tomorrow. Then we'll make a decision after the ballgame as to what we're going to do next. If it goes good, bring him up here."

UPDATE - LIRIANO LOOKED LIKE A BAG OF SHITT 2NITE.



maye you guys will listen to me when i said he was a mistake pick for anyone to make in the 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th rounds...12th would have been a consideration.



BYE BYE LIRIANO



[ April 08, 2008, 10:01 PM: Message edited by: Gordon Gekko ]

Francisco Liriano needed 88 pitches to get through four innings tonight for Class AAA Rochester, and Casey Daigle has replaced him to start the fifth inning in Norfolk, Va.



Liriano gave up three runs on five hits, with three walks and three strikeouts.



PITIFUL PERFORMANCE. DRAFT DAY BUST

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

UPDATE - LIRIANO LOOKED LIKE A BAG OF SHITT 2NITE.



maye you guys will listen to me when i said he was a mistake pick for anyone to make in the 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th rounds...12th would have been a consideration.



BYE BYE LIRIANO These are the times I wish we had trading.



I'd love to trade you Micah Owings for him.

Originally posted by Crazy Like a Fox:

quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

UPDATE - LIRIANO LOOKED LIKE A BAG OF SHITT 2NITE.



maye you guys will listen to me when i said he was a mistake pick for anyone to make in the 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th rounds...12th would have been a consideration.



BYE BYE LIRIANO These are the times I wish we had trading.



I'd love to trade you Micah Owings for him. [/QUOTE]if you were in my league, you may get a chance at him in the free agent pool later this year.

btw crazy, i think lirano will be a fine pitcher. too bad it won't be until next year.



He knew a good performance gets him back in the rotation this weekend. So, I believe he tried his "best". Too bad his "best" right now can't even get single A or triple A hitters out.



[ April 09, 2008, 05:28 AM: Message edited by: Gordon Gekko ]

ps - liriano is not getting the GB like he used to. he is an entirely different pitcher.



DONE or as some say DUN

Originally posted by Crazy Like a Fox:

quote:Originally posted by GOD Loves You:

Crazy, did you read what Gardenhire, the Twins big league manager, said regarding Liriano?? Yes. He said he wants to see his pitch count get up to 85 and continue to improve his location. If he doesn't do that he'll stay in the minors longer.



Big deal. He'll be up in with Minnesota after he completes his next two starts. MARK IT DOWN.



You guys read WAY too much into an off pitching day in the minors. It's not a big deal. He was late coming into spring training, he pitched well, no-hit through 4 innings in his last spring training start. He'll be fine.



I think right now, his body is getting adjusted again to pitching. It's hard not pitching for so long and coming back after an injury like that. He's not out there trying to prove that he belongs in the majors, he's just trying to get his pitch count up and improve location a little bit. That's it.



Relax guys, he'll be fine. [/QUOTE]Just like I said Gekko on April 4th, "He'll be up in with Minnesota after he completes his next two starts. MARK IT DOWN."



Liriano will surprise. His first start might be a little shaky for obvious reasons but he's going to be ok. His minor league numbers don't matter. He's clearly working on just getting his location back.



On a side note: All this talk about Liriano failing from you makes me think you're using this as a built in excuse in case you lose this year.



"I would have won if my computer didn't.........."



So far, you've thought Soriano would has "ZERO" chance of leading off this year, way wrong, and Liriano is going to need 4-5 starts in the minors because somehow he needs to prove himself down there before being brought up. Amazing.

Originally posted by Crazy Like a Fox:

quote:Originally posted by Crazy Like a Fox:

quote:Originally posted by GOD Loves You:

Crazy, did you read what Gardenhire, the Twins big league manager, said regarding Liriano?? Yes. He said he wants to see his pitch count get up to 85 and continue to improve his location. If he doesn't do that he'll stay in the minors longer.



Big deal. He'll be up in with Minnesota after he completes his next two starts. MARK IT DOWN.



You guys read WAY too much into an off pitching day in the minors. It's not a big deal. He was late coming into spring training, he pitched well, no-hit through 4 innings in his last spring training start. He'll be fine.



I think right now, his body is getting adjusted again to pitching. It's hard not pitching for so long and coming back after an injury like that. He's not out there trying to prove that he belongs in the majors, he's just trying to get his pitch count up and improve location a little bit. That's it.



Relax guys, he'll be fine. [/QUOTE]Just like I said Gekko on April 4th, "He'll be up in with Minnesota after he completes his next two starts. MARK IT DOWN."



Liriano will surprise. His first start might be a little shaky for obvious reasons but he's going to be ok. His minor league numbers don't matter. He's clearly working on just getting his location back.



On a side note: All this talk about Liriano failing from you makes me think you're using this as a built in excuse in case you lose this year.



"I would have won if my computer didn't.........."



So far, you've thought Soriano would has "ZERO" chance of leading off this year, way wrong, and Liriano is going to need 4-5 starts in the minors because somehow he needs to prove himself down there before being brought up. Amazing. [/QUOTE]Note to self- when pointing out everything someone is wrong about this early in the season choose a day when the person is not top 20 overall.