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I'm not so sure this year is just par for the course re: injuries to star players, but what a week!



Down goes Papi!



Down goes Smoltzy!



Down goes Zimmerman!



Down goes Crawford?



Down goes Pujols?



This eerily reminds me of this past season in the NFL!!!



~Lance

Sooooooooo, you're implying that everyone you listed was on steroids or hgh before this season, mitigating prior injuries? Or that steroids in fact would help their injuries? If so, that's just silly and foolish.

Originally posted by NorCalAtlFan:

Sooooooooo, you're implying that everyone you listed was on steroids or hgh before this season, mitigating prior injuries? Or that steroids in fact would help their injuries? If so, that's just silly and foolish. Steroids best quality is to speed up the healing process.



Take that away...and you have many more injuries doing prolonged damage.



I'm not saying those guys were on anything...but in the steroid era...they'd be back on the field of play in a fraction of the time...if they missed games at all.



(...and I can be both silly AND foolish from time to time.)



~Lance

I understand that the medical "value" of steroids. But in most of these cases, the injuries were freakish or an ongoing problem that I don't think steroids would help.

Ortiz-messed up tendons in his wrist.

Smoltz-shoulder problems that have plagued him for years.

Zim-what is it now? Bum shoulder?

Crawford-hammy that I guess isn't too bad.

Pujols-a myriad of minor things.



Don't get me wrong Lance, I enjoy your posts!!! I just maybe took offense at the Smoltz insinuation. You can throw everyone else under the bus

I wake up to find out I lost Smoltz for the season in the Main...I'm pissed!



I am officially declaring war on LV3!!!



I had high hopes of having 3 closers!



PISSED!!!



~Lance

The fragility of the modern day baseball player is beyond bizarre. Why does it seem that most of them are 50 times more brittle than the average person on the street? In football, I'm amazed that more people aren't injured. That sport is brutal. However, baseball is anything but. Setting aside pitchers and their mechanics for the moment and just looking at position players, their activities, range of motion used, with rare exception nothing they do is excessive. Yet they keep dropping like flies.



What is that I hear.....sounds like a quack!



I wonder if that's a duck?



[ June 04, 2008, 11:55 AM: Message edited by: Liquidhippo ]

Originally posted by Liquidhippo:

The fragility of the modern day baseball player is beyond bizarre. Why does it seem that most of them are 50 times more brittle than the average person on the street? In football, I'm amazed that more people aren't injured. That sport is brutal. However, baseball is anything but. Setting aside pitchers and their mechanics for the moment and just looking at position players, their activities, range of motion used, with rare exception nothing they do is excessive. Yet they keep dropping like flies.



What is that I hear.....sounds like a quack!



I wonder if that's a duck? Good point. It seems that lately that if a guy has a hangnail he will go on the disabled list.



I tend to think that the injuries have always been there, but that players today are less likely to play through pain than those guys in the past.

Did I mention all of us having to re-figure our Main Event overall targets with a projected 1000 less home runs, and how that factors into RBI, ERA, WHIP and Runs!



~Lance

There are always less runs at this time of the year as was mentioned in another thread. Football players play 10% of the games baseball players do and baseball is much more technical and therefore minor injuries are a bigger deal.

Originally posted by bjoak:

There are always less runs at this time of the year as was mentioned in another thread. Football players play 10% of the games baseball players do and baseball is much more technical and therefore minor injuries are a bigger deal. I assumed the comparisons factored in the time of year when they noted the pace change.



As for baseball being a more technical sport than football...I don't agree.



Judging from high school...all the very best athletes in the school played football and basketball...not baseball.



There may be regions where this is not true...but in general I believe it is.



You spend 99% of a game either waiting for your turn to bat (4 times in 3 hours)...or watching a pitcher and catcher play catch. :rolleyes:



~Lance



[ June 04, 2008, 01:21 PM: Message edited by: sportsbettingman ]

Now you've got me going, Bri!



FOOTBALL is the game of inches!



There is so much more technical STUFF going on in EACH PART of EACH PLAY...from proper blocking technique, to route running, to angles of tackling and avoiding tackles to throwing the ball etc.



I will not go on...but I think the high brow-ed baseball enthusiasts wish to paint a picture of baseball being this mystical sport that is not correct.



I know Jordan sucked at baseball...so spare me that and Deion and Bo.





~Lance

I meant more technical in terms of what you need to be healthy for. A hangnail really can affect a pitcher. How many fb players does that affect?



As for runs, they looked pretty even on that other thread, but the last ESPN magazine (I'm thinking page 73) noted that this year we had one of the coldest Aprils. Weather affects bats. The decline in offense is also due to other factors that have nothing to do with steroids as noted here:



****://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=7514

Originally posted by sportsbettingman:

Now you've got me going, Bri!



FOOTBALL is the game of inches!



There is so much more technical STUFF going on in EACH PART of EACH PLAY...from proper blocking technique, to route running, to angles of tackling and avoiding tackles to throwing the ball etc.



I will not go on...but I think the high brow-ed baseball enthusiasts wish to paint a picture of baseball being this mystical sport that is not correct.



I know Jordan sucked at baseball...so spare me that and Deion and Bo.





~Lance Football players just like to get REAL close to other sweaty, smelly football players and snap towels at one another, right Roman? Not that there is anything wrong with that in this PC era!



Baseball is more cerabrel....err...cirabral...cerabral...for smart people!

I think modern ballplayers need to take after the old timers like the Mick, Whitey, and Martin and drink more BEER. Great Carbs and you do plenty of curls for muscle tone and flexibility.--Just an Observation

it's been the worst year imaginable for me in terms of injuries and demotions.. I constantly have 2-3 guys STARTING who are DL'd because my bench is already full of DL'd and minor-leagued players... who woulda thought:

SP Chris Young

SP Rich Hill

SP Clay Buchholz

SP Ian Kennedy - dropped

RP Manny Corpas (lost closers gig)



2B Howie Kendrick

SS Rafael Furcal

1B Billy Butler

OF Chris Duncan

3B Chone Figgins



... all of these on one team... unbelievable.

This season is fubar. Im wondering who will be the next player to fall. So far I've lost Smoltz and Westbrook for the season. Willingham, C. Pena, R. Zimmerman, R. Weeks, Wainwright, A. Soriano, are all on the DL. Brutal

Originally posted by Highlander:

This season is fubar. Im wondering who will be the next player to fall. So far I've lost Smoltz and Westbrook for the season. Willingham, C. Pena, R. Zimmerman, R. Weeks, Wainwright, A. Soriano, are all on the DL. Brutal But there's still no luck in fantasy baseball, right?



~Lance