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Play-In Games

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 5:24 am
by chimpat
A couple quick questions in the case of play-in games early next week.....



1. I'm assuming the stats WILL count towards the regular season since they're still technically not the postseason yet?



2. Will teams get to edit their lineups again or are they locked in as of this last week.



3. Will bids be allowed for players on the wire?



Thanks in advance, hopefully it doesn't come to it and we can wrap this marathon up Sunday night, but some of these races are too close to call.

Play-In Games

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 5:29 am
by Tom Kessenich
1. The stats will count.



2. You can set your lineup for any playoff games but there is no FAAB. So the roster you have now is the roster you would use for any playoff games.

Play-In Games

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 5:34 am
by chimpat
Thanks for the quick response Tom.

Play-In Games

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 5:59 am
by sportsbettingman
Any chance at changing this rule in the future?



I understand it's a regular season game...but it's also game #163 for two teams, creating an unfair advantage to owners who have players on said teams.



I don't believe the uproar would be great if you changed the NFBC rules to not count a play-in game toward your contest.



~Lance

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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:28 am
by Greg Ambrosius
Originally posted by sportsbettingman:

Any chance at changing this rule in the future?



I understand it's a regular season game...but it's also game #163 for two teams, creating an unfair advantage to owners who have players on said teams.



I don't believe the uproar would be great if you changed the NFBC rules to not count a play-in game toward your contest.



~Lance Lance, I understand the reasoning here, but game #163 is still part of the regular season, just like it always has been in MLB history. So if we didn't include this game, our final stats wouldn't correlate with the final 2008 stats of all MLB players. That just doesn't make sense.



It's also possible that some MLB teams will play only 161 games in a season (due to rainouts), which isn't fair to all owners either. Come to think about it, nothing about Major League Baseball is fair!! :D



Again, good point and if enough owners feel this isn't the right the way to handle this we'll consider changing the rule. But Game #163 is still part of the regular season and until that changes it seems like those stats should count towards our regular season. Just my two cents.

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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:38 am
by sportsbettingman
Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

quote:Originally posted by sportsbettingman:

Any chance at changing this rule in the future?



I understand it's a regular season game...but it's also game #163 for two teams, creating an unfair advantage to owners who have players on said teams.



I don't believe the uproar would be great if you changed the NFBC rules to not count a play-in game toward your contest.



~Lance Lance, I understand the reasoning here, but game #163 is still part of the regular season, just like it always has been in MLB history. So if we didn't include this game, our final stats wouldn't correlate with the final 2008 stats of all MLB players. That just doesn't make sense.



It's also possible that some MLB teams will play only 161 games in a season (due to rainouts), which isn't fair to all owners either. Come to think about it, nothing about Major League Baseball is fair!! :D



Again, good point and if enough owners feel this isn't the right the way to handle this we'll consider changing the rule. But Game #163 is still part of the regular season and until that changes it seems like those stats should count towards our regular season. Just my two cents.
[/QUOTE]I didn't know that the 161 game seasons happened due to rainouts...I looked it up...sure does!



"Since the schedule expanded to 162 games (AL 1961, NL 1962), there have been four shortened seasons -- 1972, 1981, 1994, and 1995.



Teams try to make up rainouts, typically by scheduling a doubleheader or finding a common open date later in the season. Since interleague play (1997), however, the schedule has become sufficiently fragmented -- most IL opponents play each other only once -- that some rainouts are nigh-impossible to fit back in, and unless such a game is needed for determining postseason berths, MLB will let one or two go by the wayside. (In 1988, the Mets, Pirates, and Braves each played only 160 games. The Mets won the East by a mile ahead of the Pirates, and the Braves were dead last by another mile in the West, so the missed games made no difference.



There is a contingency, such that if a game is missed by a contender and not made up, and is needed to determine berthings for at least one of the involved teams, it can be wedged in on the first day after the season. The Cardinals faced this last year, where if the Astros had caught them the Cards would have had to play the makeup game (forget the opponent), and then possibly a tiebreaker against the Astros -- but Houston fell short. AFAIK this never has been necessary."



If that's the case...that's fair enough.



I remember Childs and Kenyon flipping spots last year, and it just didn't seem fair...but like you said...nothing in MLB is fair! :D



~Lance



[ September 25, 2008, 02:45 PM: Message edited by: sportsbettingman ]

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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 9:59 am
by bjoak
I say ditch them. When close to a tie, the worst part about it is trying to figure whether it is worth playing a player or not for that one day. If you are slightly ahead of a competitor after Sunday and he has no one playing in it you still have to wonder whether it is worth playing your one guy as someone elses rate stats could fall beneath your competitor. Meanwhile you are risking your own rate stats by putting your guy in. Too stressful!



Come to think of it, this problem could be alleviated by disallowing roster changes for that final game. I'd be on board for that.



[ September 25, 2008, 04:01 PM: Message edited by: bjoak ]

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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 1:51 am
by crazytown
Thursday night Washington v. Florida game is rained out and will not be made up.

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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 4:37 am
by sportsbettingman
Originally posted by crazytown.gov:

Thursday night Washington v. Florida game is rained out and will not be made up. Yup...after talking about it the same morning...I now have ZERO problem with the possible 163rd game!



~Lance