NFBC Champions League Draft Results

[The Mighty Men]

Somebody needed to start the thread, so I'll do it.



Last night was the first baseball draft I ever did while in a snowstorm. It felt very strange to be doing a draft in December, but a good time was had by all. I also had no idea who the viewers were when they posted comments.



I figured in December, when the solid rookie contributors are much harder to identify, I would focus on drafting known veterans and build my team on them. That is precisely how it worked out, because I thought certain veterans fell too far in this draft while far more unknown players were taken. In a fun draft like this with low stakes, that is not a bad philosphy. Here is my team:



SS Jose Reyes NYM R1 P5

1B Prince Fielder MIL R2 P11

SP Tim Lincecum SF R3 P5

C Geovany Soto CHC R4 P11

3B Chipper Jones ATL R5 P5

OF Jermaine Dye CHW R6 P11

OF Johnny Damon NYY R7 P5

OF Brad Hawpe COL R8 P11

RP Bobby Jenks CHW R9 P5

OF Chris Young ARI R10 P11

SP Justin Verlander DET R11 P5

SP Carlos Zambrano CHC R12 P11

SP Aaron Harang CIN R13 P5

OF Hideki Matsui NYY R14 P11

SP Chien-Ming Wang NYY R15 P5

2B Aaron Hill TOR R16 P11

1B Ryan Garko CLE R17 P5

C Yadier Molina STL R18 P11

RP Brad Ziegler OAK R19 P5

2B Freddy Sanchez PIT R20 P11

RP Chris Volstad FLA R21 P5

OF Gary Sheffield DET R22 P11

RP Takashi Saito LA R23 P5

3B Bill Hall MIL R24 P11

SP Edwin Jackson DET R25 P5

SP Dana Eveland OAK R26 P11

OF Melky Cabrera NYY R27 P5

2B Luis Castillo NYM R28 P11

OF Jerry Owens CHW R29 P5

3B Joe Crede CHW R30 P11



It seems pretty well-rounded to me for a December team. I'm a bit short perhaps on saves, but many closer situations need to get worked out, and maybe a bit on speed, but I have a solid foundation of about 110 steals with Reyes, Young and Damon.



I think getting Verlander, Zambrano, Harang and Wang in rounds 11 through 15 is pretty amazing. Each has a question mark but they all are not going to stink. Also, I'm not sure of the health of Matsui, but in the 14th round I'm willing to risk this pick for upside.



[ December 17, 2008, 07:32 AM: Message edited by: The Mighty Men ]

[Spartacus]

Briefly, before I head to work: I did notice what you accomplished with your pitching staff in the rounds you mentioned. Some things just jump off the page. You assembled a pretty good staff in my opinion. Don't be amazed, just remember to put Asumijet on your Christmas card list, he helped

[Greg Ambrosius]

Thanks to everyone who participated in last night's NFBC Champions League Magazine draft and for the Viewers who livened things up in the Chat room. That was a lot of fun and I agree with Jack, it's a cool feeling doing a baseball draft when it's snowing outside and Christmas hasn't arrived yet. Now let's hope the snow and cold stop soon.



Here are the first eight rounds of last night's draft. Enjoy the results and provide some feedback if you can. Thanks.



NFBC Champions League Magazine Draft:



R1 P1 John Crane Ramirez, Hanley SS FLA 6s

R1 P2 Neal Moses Rodriguez, Alex 3B NYY 10s

R1 P3 Emory Upchurch Wright, David 3B NYM 4s

R1 P4 Chris Schniker Pujols, Albert 1B STL 50s

R1 P5 Jack Haan Reyes, Jose SS NYM 39s

R1 P6 Jeff Dobies Sizemore, Grady OF CLE 3s

R1 P7 KeviN Kirves Braun, Ryan OF MIL 7s

R1 P8 Rob Dykhoff Cabrera, Miguel 1B DET 18s

R1 P9 Ryan Carey Rollins, Jimmy SS PHI 1m 8s

R1 P10 Dave Clum Hamilton, Josh OF TEX 5s

R1 P11 Robert Jurney Howard, Ryan 1B PHI 35s

R1 P12 Todd Zola Kinsler, Ian 2B TEX 6s

R1 P13 Ken Norred Teixeira, Mark 1B ANA 53s

R1 P14 Dale Morgan Beltran, Carlos OF NYM 32s

R1 P15 Matt Bauler Pedroia, Dustin 2B BOS 3s



R2 P1 Matt Bauler Longoria, Evan 3B TB 9s

R2 P2 Dale Morgan Phillips, Brandon 2B CIN 22s

R2 P3 Ken Norred Holliday, Matt OF OAK 14s

R2 P4 Todd Zola Berkman, Lance 1B HOU 51s

R2 P5 Robert Jurney Upton, B.J. OF TB 9s

R2 P6 Dave Clum Soriano, Alfonso OF CHC 24s

R2 P7 Ryan Carey Crawford, Carl OF TB 1m 4s

R2 P8 Rob Dykhoff Lee, Carlos OF HOU 7s

R2 P9 KeviN Kirves Utley, Chase 2B PHI 6s

R2 P10 Jeff Dobies Ramirez, Manny OF LA 4s

R2 P11 Jack Haan Fielder, Prince 1B MIL 28s

R2 P12 Chris Schniker Roberts, Brian 2B BAL 1m 17s

R2 P13 Emory Upchurch Santana, Johan SP NYM 1m 1s

R2 P14 Neal Moses Guerrero, Vladimir OF ANA 1m 16s

R2 P15 John Crane Quentin, Carlos OF CHW 29s



R3 P1 John Crane Ramirez, Aramis 3B CHC 34s

R3 P2 Neal Moses Ellsbury, Jacoby OF BOS 32s

R3 P3 Emory Upchurch Morneau, Justin 1B MIN 58s

R3 P4 Chris Schniker Gonzalez, Adrian 1B SD 1m 10s

R3 P5 Jack Haan Lincecum, Tim SP SF 13s

R3 P6 Jeff Dobies Markakis, Nick OF BAL 7s

R3 P7 KeviN Kirves Kemp, Matt OF LA 42s

R3 P8 Rob Dykhoff Ramirez, Alexei 2B CHW 43s

R3 P9 Ryan Carey Bay, Jason OF BOS 31s

R3 P10 Dave Clum Rios, Alex OF TOR 20s

R3 P11 Robert Jurney Granderson, Curtis OF DET 39s

R3 P12 Todd Zola Suzuki, Ichiro OF SEA 13s

R3 P13 Ken Norred Ordonez, Magglio OF DET 1m 24s

R3 P14 Dale Morgan Martin, Russell C LA 10s

R3 P15 Matt Bauler McLouth, Nate OF PIT 56s



R4 P1 Matt Bauler McCann, Brian C ATL 31s

R4 P2 Dale Morgan Sabathia, C.C. SP MIL 53s

R4 P3 Ken Norred Lee, Derrek 1B CHC 1m 14s

R4 P4 Todd Zola Youkilis, Kevin 1B, 3B BOS 4s

R4 P5 Robert Jurney Hamels, Cole SP PHI 49s

R4 P6 Dave Clum Webb, Brandon SP ARI 7s

R4 P7 Ryan Carey Ortiz, David DH BOS 1m 17s

R4 P8 Rob Dykhoff Mauer, Joe C MIN 16s

R4 P9 KeviN Kirves Atkins, Garrett 3B, 1B COL 52s

R4 P10 Jeff Dobies Hart, Corey OF MIL 4s

R4 P11 Jack Haan Soto, Geovany C CHC 13s

R4 P12 Chris Schniker Papelbon, Jonathan RP BOS 1m 10s

R4 P13 Emory Upchurch Peavy, Jake SP SD 47s

R4 P14 Neal Moses Votto, Joey 1B CIN 33s

R4 P15 John Crane Ludwick, Ryan OF STL 48s



R5 P1 John Crane Martinez, Victor C CLE 31s

R5 P2 Neal Moses Jeter, Derek SS NYY 28s

R5 P3 Emory Upchurch Abreu, Bobby OF NYY 5s

R5 P4 Chris Schniker Victorino, Shane OF PHI 59s

R5 P5 Jack Haan Jones, Chipper 3B ATL 59s

R5 P6 Jeff Dobies Furcal, Rafael SS LA 14s

R5 P7 KeviN Kirves Cano, Robinson 2B NYY 16s

R5 P8 Rob Dykhoff Drew, Stephen SS ARI 59s

R5 P9 Ryan Carey Haren, Dan SP ARI 1m 30s

R5 P10 Dave Clum Pence, Hunter OF HOU 1m 3s

R5 P11 Robert Jurney Uggla, Dan 2B FLA 22s

R5 P12 Todd Zola Dunn, Adam OF ARI 6s

R5 P13 Ken Norred Lidge, Brad RP PHI 16s

R5 P14 Dale Morgan Nathan, Joe RP MIN 47s

R5 P15 Matt Bauler Billingsley, Chad SP LA 1m 15s



R6 P1 Matt Bauler Rodriguez, Francisco RP NYM 1m 5s

R6 P2 Dale Morgan Halladay, Roy SP TOR 11s

R6 P3 Ken Norred Oswalt, Roy SP HOU 1m 29s

R6 P4 Todd Zola Doumit, Ryan C PIT 40s

R6 P5 Robert Jurney Wells, Vernon OF TOR 1m 9s

R6 P6 Dave Clum Tulowitzki, Troy SS COL 43s

R6 P7 Ryan Carey Davis, Chris 1B, 3B TEX 48s

R6 P8 Rob Dykhoff Huff, Aubrey 3B, 1B BAL 9s

R6 P9 KeviN Kirves Pena, Carlos 1B TB 1m 8s

R6 P10 Jeff Dobies Bruce, Jay OF CIN 3s

R6 P11 Jack Haan Dye, Jermaine OF CHW 49s

R6 P12 Chris Schniker Liriano, Francisco SP MIN 16s

R6 P13 Emory Upchurch Kazmir, Scott SP TB 1m 27s

R6 P14 Neal Moses Rivera, Mariano RP NYY 36s

R6 P15 John Crane Beckett, Josh SP BOS 33s



R7 P1 John Crane Shields, James SP TB 1m 13s

R7 P2 Neal Moses Soria, Joakim RP KC 16s

R7 P3 Emory Upchurch Peralta, Jhonny SS CLE 1m 10s

R7 P4 Chris Schniker Hunter, Torii OF ANA 56s

R7 P5 Jack Haan Damon, Johnny OF NYY 10s

R7 P6 Jeff Dobies Loney, James 1B LA 21s

R7 P7 KeviN Kirves Harden, Rich SP CHC 21s

R7 P8 Rob Dykhoff Santana, Ervin SP ANA 7s

R7 P9 Ryan Carey Ibanez, Raul OF SEA 33s

R7 P10 Dave Clum Hernandez, Felix SP SEA 23s

R7 P11 Robert Jurney Hardy, J.J. SS MIL 17s

R7 P12 Todd Zola Lackey, John SP ANA 18s

R7 P13 Ken Norred Wood, Kerry RP CHC 57s

R7 P14 Dale Morgan Young, Michael SS TEX 30s

R7 P15 Matt Bauler Lester, Jon SP BOS 1m 13s



R8 P1 Matt Bauler Jackson, Conor OF, 1B ARI 56s

R8 P2 Dale Morgan Delgado, Carlos 1B NYM 15s

R8 P3 Ken Norred Nady, Xavier OF NYY 13s

R8 P4 Todd Zola Lee, Cliff SP CLE 16s

R8 P5 Robert Jurney Dukes, Elijah OF WAS 14s

R8 P6 Dave Clum Wieters, Matt C BAL 27s

R8 P7 Ryan Carey Burnett, A.J. SP TOR 1m 1s

R8 P8 Rob Dykhoff Volquez, Edinson SP CIN 29s

R8 P9 KeviN Kirves Matsuzaka, Daisuke SP BOS 7s

R8 P10 Jeff Dobies Gallardo, Yovani SP MIL 31s

R8 P11 Jack Haan Hawpe, Brad OF COL 48s

R8 P12 Chris Schniker Bradley, Milton OF TEX 26s

R8 P13 Emory Upchurch Figgins, Chone 3B ANA 25s

R8 P14 Neal Moses Kendrick, Howie 2B ANA 1m 16s

R8 P15 John Crane Ryan, B.J. RP TOR 1m 23s



R9 P1 John Crane Cordero, Francisco RP CIN 14s

R9 P2 Neal Moses Napoli, Mike C ANA 20s

R9 P3 Emory Upchurch Valverde, Jose RP HOU 51s

R9 P4 Chris Schniker Cain, Matt SP SF 18s

R9 P5 Jack Haan Jenks, Bobby RP CHW 23s

R9 P6 Jeff Dobies Scherzer, Max RP ARI 4s

R9 P7 KeviN Kirves Marmol, Carlos RP CHC 10s

R9 P8 Rob Dykhoff Broxton, Jonathan RP LA 12s

R9 P9 Ryan Carey Zimmerman, Ryan 3B WAS 1m 16s

R9 P10 Dave Clum Greinke, Zack SP KC 1m 2s

R9 P11 Robert Jurney Beltre, Adrian 3B SEA 1m 7s

R9 P12 Todd Zola Fuentes, Brian RP COL 3s

R9 P13 Ken Norred Wainwright, Adam SP STL 1m 26s

R9 P14 Dale Morgan Cantu, Jorge 3B, 1B FLA 13s

R9 P15 Matt Bauler Tejada, Miguel SS HOU 3s



R10 P1 Matt Bauler Ethier, Andre OF LA 1m 11s

R10 P2 Dale Morgan Price, David RP TB 1m 14s

R10 P3 Ken Norred Theriot, Ryan SS CHC 45s

R10 P4 Todd Zola Cabrera, Orlando SS CHW 10s

R10 P5 Robert Jurney Chamberlain, Joba RP NYY 26s

R10 P6 Dave Clum Gordon, Alex 3B KC 11s

R10 P7 Ryan Carey Capps, Matt RP PIT 14s

R10 P8 Rob Dykhoff Johnson, Kelly 2B ATL 14s

R10 P9 KeviN Kirves Sheets, Ben SP MIL 50s

R10 P10 Jeff Dobies Vazquez, Javier SP ATL 4s

R10 P11 Jack Haan Young, Chris OF ARI 38s

R10 P12 Chris Schniker Arredondo, Jose RP ANA 1m 5s

R10 P13 Emory Upchurch Iannetta, Chris C COL 11s

R10 P14 Neal Moses Werth, Jayson OF PHI 1m 23s

R10 P15 John Crane Encarnacion, Edwin 3B CIN AutoSelect

R11 P1 John Crane Dempster, Ryan SP CHC 2m 21s

R11 P2 Neal Moses Wilson, Brian RP SF 48s

R11 P3 Emory Upchurch Burrell, Pat OF PHI 49s

R11 P4 Chris Schniker Young, Delmon OF MIN 39s

R11 P5 Jack Haan Verlander, Justin SP DET 14s

R11 P6 Jeff Dobies Bell, Heath RP SD 3s

R11 P7 KeviN Kirves Guillen, Carlos 3B, 1B DET 11s

R11 P8 Rob Dykhoff Nolasco, Ricky SP FLA 9s

R11 P9 Ryan Carey DeRosa, Mark 2B, 3B, OF CHC 39s

R11 P10 Dave Clum Morrow, Brandon RP SEA 2s

R11 P11 Robert Jurney Street, Huston RP COL 18s

R11 P12 Todd Zola Young, Chris SP SD 3s

R11 P13 Ken Norred Taveras, Willy OF COL 13s

R11 P14 Dale Morgan Milledge, Lastings OF WAS 14s

R11 P15 Matt Bauler Span, Denard OF MIN 24s



R12 P1 Matt Bauler LaRoche, Adam 1B PIT 2m 25s

R12 P2 Dale Morgan Gomez, Carlos OF MIN 1m 38s

R12 P3 Ken Norred Jurrjens, Jair SP ATL 1m 9s

R12 P4 Todd Zola Molina, Bengie C SF 11s

R12 P5 Robert Jurney Danks, John SP CHW 41s

R12 P6 Dave Clum Johnson, Josh SP FLA 4s

R12 P7 Ryan Carey Upton, Justin OF ARI 58s

R12 P8 Rob Dykhoff Blalock, Hank 1B, 3B TEX 56s

R12 P9 KeviN Kirves Baker, Scott SP MIN 44s

R12 P10 Jeff Dobies Garza, Matt SP TB 12s

R12 P11 Jack Haan Zambrano, Carlos SP CHC 16s

R12 P12 Chris Schniker Bedard, Erik SP SEA 30s

R12 P13 Emory Upchurch Reynolds, Mark 3B ARI 54s

R12 P14 Neal Moses Cruz, Nelson OF TEX 18s

R12 P15 John Crane Posada, Jorge C NYY 55s



R13 P1 John Crane Konerko, Paul 1B CHW 10s

R13 P2 Neal Moses Clement, Jeff C SEA 39s

R13 P3 Emory Upchurch Cameron, Mike OF MIL 38s

R13 P4 Chris Schniker Aviles, Mike SS, 2B KC 1m 1s

R13 P5 Jack Haan Harang, Aaron SP CIN 38s

R13 P6 Jeff Dobies Lindstrom, Matt RP FLA 5s

R13 P7 KeviN Kirves Dickerson, Chris OF CIN 19s

R13 P8 Rob Dykhoff Devine, Joey RP OAK 5s

R13 P9 Ryan Carey Kershaw, Clayton SP LA 6s

R13 P10 Dave Clum Sandoval, Pablo 1B SF 1m 13s

R13 P11 Robert Jurney Maybin, Cameron OF FLA 17s

R13 P12 Todd Zola Polanco, Placido 2B DET 7s

R13 P13 Ken Norred Lopez, Jose 2B SEA 11s

R13 P14 Dale Morgan Lilly, Ted SP CHC 30s

R13 P15 Matt Bauler Thome, Jim DH CHW AutoSelect



R14 P1 Matt Bauler Myers, Brett SP PHI 12s

R14 P2 Dale Morgan Weaver, Jered SP ANA 1m 9s

R14 P3 Ken Norred Mora, Melvin 3B BAL 24s

R14 P4 Todd Zola Lowe, Derek SP LA 22s

R14 P5 Robert Jurney Laird, Gerald C DET 24s

R14 P6 Dave Clum Pelfrey, Mike SP NYM 54s

R14 P7 Ryan Carey Hernandez, Ramon C CIN 1m 15s

R14 P8 Rob Dykhoff Choo, Shin-Soo OF CLE 5s

R14 P9 KeviN Kirves Byrnes, Eric OF ARI 8s

R14 P10 Jeff Dobies Glaus, Troy 3B STL 3s

R14 P11 Jack Haan Matsui, Hideki OF NYY 1m 5s

R14 P12 Chris Schniker Kouzmanoff, Kevin 3B SD 55s

R14 P13 Emory Upchurch Drew, J.D. OF BOS 21s

R14 P14 Neal Moses Weeks, Rickie 2B MIL 28s

R14 P15 John Crane Floyd, Gavin SP CHW AutoSelect



R15 P1 John Crane Saunders, Joe SP ANA AutoSelect

R15 P2 Neal Moses Ankiel, Rick OF STL 20s

R15 P3 Emory Upchurch Renteria, Edgar SS SF 1m 9s

R15 P4 Chris Schniker Cuddyer, Michael OF MIN 9s

R15 P5 Jack Haan Wang, Chien-Ming SP NYY 8s

R15 P6 Jeff Dobies Hudson, Orlando 2B ARI 7s

R15 P7 KeviN Kirves Hafner, Travis DH CLE 1m 17s

R15 P8 Rob Dykhoff Qualls, Chad RP ARI 3s

R15 P9 Ryan Carey Gonzalez, Mike RP ATL 54s

R15 P10 Dave Clum Matsui, Kaz 2B HOU 6s

R15 P11 Robert Jurney Jimenez, Ubaldo SP COL 16s

R15 P12 Todd Zola Blake, Casey 3B, 1B LA 4s

R15 P13 Ken Norred Cueto, Johnny SP CIN 6s

R15 P14 Dale Morgan Swisher, Nick OF, 1B NYY 49s

R15 P15 Matt Bauler Winn, Randy OF SF 3s



R16 P1 Matt Bauler Slowey, Kevin SP MIN 1m 19s

R16 P2 Dale Morgan Crisp, Coco OF KC 1m

R16 P3 Ken Norred Shoppach, Kelly C CLE 10s

R16 P4 Todd Zola Corpas, Manny RP COL 4s

R16 P5 Robert Jurney Hanrahan, Joel RP WAS 33s

R16 P6 Dave Clum Butler, Billy 1B KC 21s

R16 P7 Ryan Carey Parra, Manny SP MIL 38s

R16 P8 Rob Dykhoff Hermida, Jeremy OF FLA 19s

R16 P9 KeviN Kirves Maine, John SP NYM 6s

R16 P10 Jeff Dobies Wigginton, Ty 3B, OF HOU 11s

R16 P11 Jack Haan Hill, Aaron 2B TOR 1m 26s

R16 P12 Chris Schniker Pierzynski, A.J. C CHW 19s

R16 P13 Emory Upchurch Francisco, Frank RP TEX 9s

R16 P14 Neal Moses Giambi, Jason 1B NYY 1m 15s

R16 P15 John Crane Greene, Khalil SS STL 9s



R17 P1 John Crane Pierre, Juan OF LA 36s

R17 P2 Neal Moses Hoffman, Trevor RP SD 57s

R17 P3 Emory Upchurch Iwamura, Akinori 2B TB 26s

R17 P4 Chris Schniker Perez, Oliver SP NYM 10s

R17 P5 Jack Haan Garko, Ryan 1B CLE 55s

R17 P6 Jeff Dobies Meche, Gil SP KC 3s

R17 P7 KeviN Kirves Perez, Chris RP STL 3s

R17 P8 Rob Dykhoff Rodriguez, Wandy SP HOU 50s

R17 P9 Ryan Carey Lowrie, Jed SS, 3B BOS 1m 8s

R17 P10 Dave Clum Sherrill, George RP BAL 4s

R17 P11 Robert Jurney Spilborghs, Ryan OF COL 28s

R17 P12 Todd Zola Jones, Adam OF BAL 6s

R17 P13 Ken Norred Balfour, Grant RP MIL 44s

R17 P14 Dale Morgan Jacobs, Mike 1B FLA 8s

R17 P15 Matt Bauler Ray, Chris RP BAL 12s



R18 P1 Matt Bauler Carmona, Fausto SP CLE 28s

R18 P2 Dale Morgan Lind, Adam OF TOR 1m 28s

R18 P3 Ken Norred Wolf, Randy SP SD 3s

R18 P4 Todd Zola Johnson, Randy SP ARI 4s

R18 P5 Robert Jurney Snyder, Chris C ARI 12s

R18 P6 Dave Clum Francoeur, Jeff OF ATL 4s

R18 P7 Ryan Carey Kubel, Jason OF MIN 20s

R18 P8 Rob Dykhoff Murphy, David OF TEX 22s

R18 P9 KeviN Kirves Suzuki, Kurt C OAK 30s

R18 P10 Jeff Dobies Headley, Chase OF SD 28s

R18 P11 Jack Haan Molina, Yadier C STL 1m 5s

R18 P12 Chris Schniker Bourn, Michael OF HOU 20s

R18 P13 Emory Upchurch Percival, Troy RP TB 20s

R18 P14 Neal Moses Escobar, Yunel SS ATL 1m 21s

R18 P15 John Crane Duchscherer, Justin SP OAK 6s



R19 P1 John Crane Griffey, Ken OF CHW 9s

R19 P2 Neal Moses Helton, Todd 1B COL 19s

R19 P3 Emory Upchurch Arroyo, Bronson SP CIN 10s

R19 P4 Chris Schniker Lopez, Felipe 2B STL 7s

R19 P5 Jack Haan Ziegler, Brad RP OAK 13s

R19 P6 Jeff Dobies Flores, Jesus C WAS 3s

R19 P7 KeviN Kirves Snider, Travis OF TOR 42s

R19 P8 Rob Dykhoff DeJesus, David OF KC 15s

R19 P9 Ryan Carey Stewart, Ian 3B COL 11s

R19 P10 Dave Clum Barmes, Clint 2B, SS COL 12s

R19 P11 Robert Jurney Casilla, Alexi 2B MIN 10s

R19 P12 Todd Zola Willingham, Josh OF WAS 14s

R19 P13 Ken Norred Sonnanstine, Andrew SP TB 25s

R19 P14 Dale Morgan Inge, Brandon C, 3B DET 37s

R19 P15 Matt Bauler Navarro, Dioner C TB 3s



R20 P1 Matt Bauler Francisco, Ben OF CLE 1m 25s

R20 P2 Dale Morgan Guzman, Cristian SS WAS 29s

R20 P3 Ken Norred Teagarden, Taylor C TEX 34s

R20 P4 Todd Zola Hughes, Philip SP NYY 51s

R20 P5 Robert Jurney Tracy, Chad 1B ARI 36s

R20 P6 Dave Clum Galarraga, Armando SP DET 4s

R20 P7 Ryan Carey Lewis, Fred OF SF 6s

R20 P8 Rob Dykhoff Guthrie, Jeremy SP BAL 11s

R20 P9 KeviN Kirves Cabrera, Asdrubal 2B, SS CLE 9s

R20 P10 Jeff Dobies Saltalamaccia, Jarrod C TEX 2s

R20 P11 Jack Haan Sanchez, Freddy 2B PIT 47s

R20 P12 Chris Schniker Kuroda, Hiroki SP LA 22s

R20 P13 Emory Upchurch Rowand, Aaron OF SF 4s

R20 P14 Neal Moses Guillen, Jose OF KC 14s

R20 P15 John Crane Kotchman, Casey 1B ATL 41s



[ January 21, 2009, 03:41 PM: Message edited by: Greg Ambrosius ]

[ALL-IN JD]

Last night was fun. March cant get here quick enough. Since it was a freebie, I went the other way drafting some high upside rookies and FA's:



C Flores

C Salty

1B Loney

2B Hudson

SS Furcal

3B Glaus

MI E. Aybar

CI Wiggington

OF Sizemore

OF M. Ramirez

OF Markakis

OF Hart

OF Bruce

UT Church

P Gallardo

P Scherzer

P Vazquez

P Garza

P Meche

P A. Miller

P Zumaya

P H. Bell

P Lindstrom



R T. Hanson

R D. Fowler

R M. Burris

R Andy Laroche

R Headley

R Izzy

R Gagne

[Ryan C]

Fun draft - great to get the juices flowing. My draft plan changed right off the bat when Dobies took my target Sizemore at 6 - then Braun/Cabrera went dropping Rollins into my lap. Thought about Hamilton and Howard - but demured. The early speed picks prompted the Ortiz choice in the 4th. Like Fireballs, the freeebie element allowed for more rookie with upside gambles at different points.



C R Hernandez 14.7

C M Olivo 30.7

1B C Davis 6.7

2B M DeRosa 11.9

SS J Rollins 1.9

3B R Zimmerman 9.9

MI J Lowrie 17.9

CI I Stewart 19.9

OF C Crawford 2.7

OF J Bay 3.9

OF R Ibanez 7.9

OF J Upton 12.7

OF J Kubel 18.7

UT D Ortiz 4.7



P D Haren 5.9

P Aj Burnett 8.7

P C Kershaw 13.9

P M Parra 16.7

P C Bucholz 21.9

P P Malholm 22.7

P M Capps 10.7

P M Gonzalez 15.9

P J Lewis 27.8



BN F Lewis 20.7

BN C Izturis 24.7

BN M Gamel 23.9

BN B Wood 29.9

BN Gio Gonzalez 26.7

BN JP Howell 25.9

BN J Haap 28.7



One thing I liked about this team was it's positional flexibility:



C Davis (1b/3b), DeRosa (2b/3b/Of), Lowrie (SS/3B)

Wood (3B/SS) and Stewart (should gain added 2B eligibility quickly) will help at some point.



This team will need resurgent years from Crawford and Ortiz and to a lesser extent Rollins. A breakthrough by J Upton would be nice. I would also love to see M Olivo make John Buck a true backup in KC.



Pitching-wise Burnett has to stay healthy. Kershaw and Parra will need to be solid at the very least for my staff, but I love the upside here. Love Maholm on the backend. One of the Bucholz/Gio G/Haap trio needs to breakout.



I Like the cheap SB's in reserve in Lewis and Izturis. And the potential power from Gamel/Wood.



As for saves - I need Mike Gonzalez to grab the job in Atl and for Joe Maddon to realize that JP Howell is the best arm in that bullpen. I figure J Lewis is good for 5-10 saves as the Indians protect their Kerry Wood investment.

[The Mighty Men]

Ryan: To me, Ortiz at 4.7 is a great value. If his health looks ok in the spring, there is no way he is a 4th round pick. I was watching him continue to fall in round 4 and wondered if he would make it back to me.



I also like DeRosa in 11 as a 2B, and his position flexibility is very nice to have.

[Ryan C]

Yeah - while I hate grabbing back to back guys from the same team (From Boston no less ) and clogging up my utility spot, Ortiz and Dunn were the best veteran pop left IMO.



Also, I looked at the 1B market there- and 9 were gone - top of my list at that point were Votto and Davis with my target being Davis. Votto went at 4.14 and I held my breath when I passed on Davis in the 5th that he would make it through the Jurney/Zola turn back to me in the 6th. The fact that Huff and Pena went right after made me feel even better about that one.



As for your draft - I think you did real well with the pitchers mentioned in 11-15. And Matsui should be a cheap 20-90 guy at worst. I also like A Hill - a guy that i think many are forgetting about. Your choice of Volstad led me to my Bucholz pick - so I like him as well. Chipper is one of those guys you will have to hold your breath on every year - praying he doesn't spend too much time on the DL. Also, it will be interesting to see if Brad Hawpe can step up into the void created by Holliday's departure in Col.

[Edwards Kings]

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:



R8 P6 Dave Clum Wieters, Matt C BAL

My friend Dave showing Wieters some man-love. That is what sleepless nights and new babies will do for you!

[Greg Ambrosius]

In the Industry draft we just finished for the magazine, 7 of the first 29 picks were first basemen. Man, that well dries up in a hurry if you don't jump in early, which I unfortunately didn't from the 11th spot. Damn Geoff Stein took Howard and Tex at 12-13 turn. I took Hamilton at 11, figuring I'd get either 1B next. I hate MDC.com.

[Schwks]

Is it me, or does it seem like this year more then most favors those who pick in top 7-9. The bottom 5 or 6 first round picks are really guys youd like in mid second round....Texeira, Beltran were second rounders last year and did nothing to really better their draft positions. Meanwhile the difference between the advantage gained by drafting at top of 2nd is miniscule...is there a vast difference between Longoria and Quentin? or Phillips and Roberts? Conversely look at difference between Wright and Pedroia

[Asumijet]

Originally posted by Spartacus:

Briefly, before I head to work: I did notice what you accomplished with your pitching staff in the rounds you mentioned. Some things just jump off the page. You assembled a pretty good staff in my opinion. Don't be amazed, just remember to put Asumijet on your Christmas card list, he helped I do like Christmas cards. Hopefully, my strategy or lack thereof was beneficial to all. It was a privilege to draft with such proven talent and get the baseball juices flowing again. Hope everyone has a great holiday season.



Greg-- Any chance there be a mock auction draft like last year?

[RedRum]

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

Thanks to everyone who participated in last night's NFBC Champions League Magazine draft and for the Viewers who livened things up in the Chat room. That was a lot of fun and I agree with Jack, it's a cool feeling doing a baseball draft when it's snowing outside and Christmas hasn't arrived yet. Now let's hope the snow and cold stop soon.



Here are the first eight rounds of last night's draft. Enjoy the results and provide some feedback if you can. Thanks.



NFBC Champions League Magazine Draft:



R1 P1 John Crane Ramirez, Hanley SS FLA 6s

R1 P2 Neal Moses Rodriguez, Alex 3B NYY 10s

R1 P3 Emory Upchurch Wright, David 3B NYM 4s

R1 P4 Chris Schniker Pujols, Albert 1B STL 50s

R1 P5 Jack Haan Reyes, Jose SS NYM 39s

R1 P6 Jeff Dobies Sizemore, Grady OF CLE 3s

R1 P7 KeviN Kirves Braun, Ryan OF MIL 7s

R1 P8 Rob Dykhoff Cabrera, Miguel 1B DET 18s

R1 P9 Ryan Carey Rollins, Jimmy SS PHI 1m 8s

R1 P10 Dave Clum Hamilton, Josh OF TEX 5s

R1 P11 Robert Jurney Howard, Ryan 1B PHI 35s

R1 P12 Todd Zola Kinsler, Ian 2B TEX 6s

R1 P13 Ken Norred Teixeira, Mark 1B ANA 53s

R1 P14 Dale Morgan Beltran, Carlos OF NYM 32s

R1 P15 Matt Bauler Pedroia, Dustin 2B BOS 3s



R2 P1 Matt Bauler Longoria, Evan 3B TB 9s

R2 P2 Dale Morgan Phillips, Brandon 2B CIN 22s

R2 P3 Ken Norred Holliday, Matt OF OAK 14s

R2 P4 Todd Zola Berkman, Lance 1B HOU 51s

R2 P5 Robert Jurney Upton, B.J. OF TB 9s

R2 P6 Dave Clum Soriano, Alfonso OF CHC 24s

R2 P7 Ryan Carey Crawford, Carl OF TB 1m 4s

R2 P8 Rob Dykhoff Lee, Carlos OF HOU 7s

R2 P9 KeviN Kirves Utley, Chase 2B PHI 6s

R2 P10 Jeff Dobies Ramirez, Manny OF LA 4s

R2 P11 Jack Haan Fielder, Prince 1B MIL 28s

R2 P12 Chris Schniker Roberts, Brian 2B BAL 1m 17s

R2 P13 Emory Upchurch Santana, Johan SP NYM 1m 1s

R2 P14 Neal Moses Guerrero, Vladimir OF ANA 1m 16s

R2 P15 John Crane Quentin, Carlos OF CHW 29s



R3 P1 John Crane Ramirez, Aramis 3B CHC 34s

R3 P2 Neal Moses Ellsbury, Jacoby OF BOS 32s

R3 P3 Emory Upchurch Morneau, Justin 1B MIN 58s

R3 P4 Chris Schniker Gonzalez, Adrian 1B SD 1m 10s

R3 P5 Jack Haan Lincecum, Tim SP SF 13s

R3 P6 Jeff Dobies Markakis, Nick OF BAL 7s

R3 P7 KeviN Kirves Kemp, Matt OF LA 42s

R3 P8 Rob Dykhoff Ramirez, Alexei 2B CHW 43s

R3 P9 Ryan Carey Bay, Jason OF BOS 31s

R3 P10 Dave Clum Rios, Alex OF TOR 20s

R3 P11 Robert Jurney Granderson, Curtis OF DET 39s

R3 P12 Todd Zola Suzuki, Ichiro OF SEA 13s

R3 P13 Ken Norred Ordonez, Magglio OF DET 1m 24s

R3 P14 Dale Morgan Martin, Russell C LA 10s

R3 P15 Matt Bauler McLouth, Nate OF PIT 56s



R4 P1 Matt Bauler McCann, Brian C ATL 31s

R4 P2 Dale Morgan Sabathia, C.C. SP MIL 53s

R4 P3 Ken Norred Lee, Derrek 1B CHC 1m 14s

R4 P4 Todd Zola Youkilis, Kevin 1B, 3B BOS 4s

R4 P5 Robert Jurney Hamels, Cole SP PHI 49s

R4 P6 Dave Clum Webb, Brandon SP ARI 7s

R4 P7 Ryan Carey Ortiz, David DH BOS 1m 17s

R4 P8 Rob Dykhoff Mauer, Joe C MIN 16s

R4 P9 KeviN Kirves Atkins, Garrett 3B, 1B COL 52s

R4 P10 Jeff Dobies Hart, Corey OF MIL 4s

R4 P11 Jack Haan Soto, Geovany C CHC 13s

R4 P12 Chris Schniker Papelbon, Jonathan RP BOS 1m 10s

R4 P13 Emory Upchurch Peavy, Jake SP SD 47s

R4 P14 Neal Moses Votto, Joey 1B CIN 33s

R4 P15 John Crane Ludwick, Ryan OF STL 48s



R5 P1 John Crane Martinez, Victor C CLE 31s

R5 P2 Neal Moses Jeter, Derek SS NYY 28s

R5 P3 Emory Upchurch Abreu, Bobby OF NYY 5s

R5 P4 Chris Schniker Victorino, Shane OF PHI 59s

R5 P5 Jack Haan Jones, Chipper 3B ATL 59s

R5 P6 Jeff Dobies Furcal, Rafael SS LA 14s

R5 P7 KeviN Kirves Cano, Robinson 2B NYY 16s

R5 P8 Rob Dykhoff Drew, Stephen SS ARI 59s

R5 P9 Ryan Carey Haren, Dan SP ARI 1m 30s

R5 P10 Dave Clum Pence, Hunter OF HOU 1m 3s

R5 P11 Robert Jurney Uggla, Dan 2B FLA 22s

R5 P12 Todd Zola Dunn, Adam OF ARI 6s

R5 P13 Ken Norred Lidge, Brad RP PHI 16s

R5 P14 Dale Morgan Nathan, Joe RP MIN 47s

R5 P15 Matt Bauler Billingsley, Chad SP LA 1m 15s



R6 P1 Matt Bauler Rodriguez, Francisco RP NYM 1m 5s

R6 P2 Dale Morgan Halladay, Roy SP TOR 11s

R6 P3 Ken Norred Oswalt, Roy SP HOU 1m 29s

R6 P4 Todd Zola Doumit, Ryan C PIT 40s

R6 P5 Robert Jurney Wells, Vernon OF TOR 1m 9s

R6 P6 Dave Clum Tulowitzki, Troy SS COL 43s

R6 P7 Ryan Carey Davis, Chris 1B, 3B TEX 48s

R6 P8 Rob Dykhoff Huff, Aubrey 3B, 1B BAL 9s

R6 P9 KeviN Kirves Pena, Carlos 1B TB 1m 8s

R6 P10 Jeff Dobies Bruce, Jay OF CIN 3s

R6 P11 Jack Haan Dye, Jermaine OF CHW 49s

R6 P12 Chris Schniker Liriano, Francisco SP MIN 16s

R6 P13 Emory Upchurch Kazmir, Scott SP TB 1m 27s

R6 P14 Neal Moses Rivera, Mariano RP NYY 36s

R6 P15 John Crane Beckett, Josh SP BOS 33s



R7 P1 John Crane Shields, James SP TB 1m 13s

R7 P2 Neal Moses Soria, Joakim RP KC 16s

R7 P3 Emory Upchurch Peralta, Jhonny SS CLE 1m 10s

R7 P4 Chris Schniker Hunter, Torii OF ANA 56s

R7 P5 Jack Haan Damon, Johnny OF NYY 10s

R7 P6 Jeff Dobies Loney, James 1B LA 21s

R7 P7 KeviN Kirves Harden, Rich SP CHC 21s

R7 P8 Rob Dykhoff Santana, Ervin SP ANA 7s

R7 P9 Ryan Carey Ibanez, Raul OF SEA 33s

R7 P10 Dave Clum Hernandez, Felix SP SEA 23s

R7 P11 Robert Jurney Hardy, J.J. SS MIL 17s

R7 P12 Todd Zola Lackey, John SP ANA 18s

R7 P13 Ken Norred Wood, Kerry RP CHC 57s

R7 P14 Dale Morgan Young, Michael SS TEX 30s

R7 P15 Matt Bauler Lester, Jon SP BOS 1m 13s



R8 P1 Matt Bauler Jackson, Conor OF, 1B ARI 56s

R8 P2 Dale Morgan Delgado, Carlos 1B NYM 15s

R8 P3 Ken Norred Nady, Xavier OF NYY 13s

R8 P4 Todd Zola Lee, Cliff SP CLE 16s

R8 P5 Robert Jurney Dukes, Elijah OF WAS 14s

R8 P6 Dave Clum Wieters, Matt C BAL 27s

R8 P7 Ryan Carey Burnett, A.J. SP TOR 1m 1s

R8 P8 Rob Dykhoff Volquez, Edinson SP CIN 29s

R8 P9 KeviN Kirves Matsuzaka, Daisuke SP BOS 7s

R8 P10 Jeff Dobies Gallardo, Yovani SP MIL 31s

R8 P11 Jack Haan Hawpe, Brad OF COL 48s

R8 P12 Chris Schniker Bradley, Milton OF TEX 26s

R8 P13 Emory Upchurch Figgins, Chone 3B ANA 25s

R8 P14 Neal Moses Kendrick, Howie 2B ANA 1m 16s

R8 P15 John Crane Ryan, B.J. RP TOR 1m 23s Can we see the rest of this draft ???

[RedRum]

Originally posted by fireballs:

Last night was fun. March cant get here quick enough. Since it was a freebie, I went the other way drafting some high upside rookies and FA's:



C Flores

C Salty

1B Loney

2B Hudson

SS Furcal

3B Glaus

MI E. Aybar

CI Wiggington

OF Sizemore

OF M. Ramirez

OF Markakis

OF Hart

OF Bruce

UT Church

P Gallardo

P Scherzer

P Vazquez

P Garza

P Meche

P A. Miller

P Zumaya

P H. Bell

P Lindstrom



R T. Hanson

R D. Fowler

R M. Burris

R Andy Laroche

R Headley

R Izzy

R Gagne Thats a stellar OutField....

[DOUGHBOYS]

Originally posted by RedRum:

quote:Originally posted by fireballs:

Last night was fun. March cant get here quick enough. Since it was a freebie, I went the other way drafting some high upside rookies and FA's:



C Flores

C Salty

1B Loney

2B Hudson

SS Furcal

3B Glaus

MI E. Aybar

CI Wiggington

OF Sizemore

OF M. Ramirez

OF Markakis

OF Hart

OF Bruce

UT Church

P Gallardo

P Scherzer

P Vazquez

P Garza

P Meche

P A. Miller

P Zumaya

P H. Bell

P Lindstrom



R T. Hanson

R D. Fowler

R M. Burris

R Andy Laroche

R Headley

R Izzy

R Gagne Thats a stellar OutField.... [/QUOTE]It should be when using the first five of six picks on them. Did you feel handcuffed in the later rounds? Were there some potential OF bargains that you passed on because you were set there?

[ALL-IN JD]

Definitely when it came to selecting my MI. I figured id roll the dice with two potential (nothing for sure)sleepers in Aybar and Burris. Also figured that my OF would hopefully make up for some of the MI short comings. Also missed out on a third closer but saves can always be addressed in season.





Jeff

[Raskol]

Here's my team from the 3-hole. I was going Wright all the way, assuming that A-Rod and Hanley would be gone. Tough call taking Wright over Pujols but I figured 3B is shallow whereas I could probably get a quality 1B later on (turned out I was more right than I knew).



Like most drafts, nothing went as expected. Johan making it back to me at 2.13 was a surprise and one I couldn't pass up. Ditto with Morneau at 3.3.



Once Peavy made it to me at 4.13 I figured I was committed to being the SP powerhouse, so I took Kazmir in the 6th.



Then the scramble began for position players...



Not too happy with my later picks. The prospect hunters had already scooped up most of the potential big names. Catchers were few and far between, as were second basemen. The Renteria pick was a mistake enabled by my 3-year old. Who knows, maybe he'll hit .330 again....yeah, right.



1 Wright David

2 Santana Johan

3 Morneau Justin

4 Peavy Jake

5 Abreu Bobby

6 Kazmir Scott

7 Peralta Jhonny

8 Figgins Chone

9 Valverde Jose

10 Iannetta Chris

11 Burrell Pat

12 Reynolds Mark

13 Cameron Mike

14 Drew J.D.

15 Renteria Edgar

16 Francisco Frank

17 Iwamura Akinori

18 Percival Troy

19 Arroyo Bronson

20 Rowand Aaron

21 Varitek Jason

22 Martinez Pedro

23 Viciedo Dayan

24 Pearce Steven

25 Wheeler Dan

26 Ramirez Max

27 Masterson Justin

28 Zito Barry

29 Millar Kevin

30 Izturis Maicer

[Schwks]

Rask, I was reading your post and thinking "I like the thought process"...but after Kaz you went away from plan and didnt fill in with any decent sps (though Arroyo in 19 was great value)

[Captain Hook]

agree Schwks but it was probably the result of "feeling" so far behind in the hitting categories.

[Raskol]

Originally posted by Schwks:

Rask, I was reading your post and thinking "I like the thought process"...but after Kaz you went away from plan and didnt fill in with any decent sps (though Arroyo in 19 was great value) What, you don't think Zito will get another Cy Young this year?



I agree with your criticism. It is hard to 'catch up' on the offensive categories with 3 of your first 6 picks are pitchers. Throw in Valverde in the 9th and that is 4 out of my first 10 picks.



Basically though I am praying for something from one of Pedro, Masterson or Zito. Or for a few good FAAB pickups, which always seem to be available over the course of a season.

[Schwks]

I actually thought you were pretty darn solid offensively after 5 rds with great production, so that if you had taken an extra sp in 6-10 and one in 11-15, you'd have 5 solid guys to build around.

[Ryan C]

[ December 19, 2008, 12:22 PM: Message edited by: Ryan Carey ]

[Raskol]

Originally posted by Schwks:

I actually thought you were pretty darn solid offensively after 5 rds with great production, so that if you had taken an extra sp in 6-10 and one in 11-15, you'd have 5 solid guys to build around. I'm hoping that the good Arroyo shows up, which would give me 4 solid SPs. Or at least 3 1/2. In Valverde and Francisco, I have two high-K rate closers. I think this give me the foundation I need to win Ks. ERA and WHIP should be solid, provided nobody tears a rotator cuff. Wins just can't be predicted but Johan should get a few more this year with the revamped bullpen behind him. Those will likely be offset by Peavy's atrocious team though....



SBs should be OK, but not great. If Figgins shows up feeling fast, then I'll be better. Power is good I think--I am hoping that Reynolds gets more selective. AVG could be an issue either way....



As always, thanks for the input!

[Captain Hook]

Originally posted by RedRum:

[/qb]Can we see the rest of this draft ??? [/QB][/quote]


sure, as soon as the magazine comes out

[Greg Ambrosius]

I've added four more rounds to the original post of draft picks. 12 rounds should tie you folks over for a few days. Enjoy.

[rkulaski]

Originally posted by Raskol:

quote:Originally posted by Schwks:

I actually thought you were pretty darn solid offensively after 5 rds with great production, so that if you had taken an extra sp in 6-10 and one in 11-15, you'd have 5 solid guys to build around. I'm hoping that the good Arroyo shows up, which would give me 4 solid SPs. Or at least 3 1/2. In Valverde and Francisco, I have two high-K rate closers. I think this give me the foundation I need to win Ks. ERA and WHIP should be solid, provided nobody tears a rotator cuff. Wins just can't be predicted but Johan should get a few more this year with the revamped bullpen behind him. Those will likely be offset by Peavy's atrocious team though....



SBs should be OK, but not great. If Figgins shows up feeling fast, then I'll be better. Power is good I think--I am hoping that Reynolds gets more selective. AVG could be an issue either way....



As always, thanks for the input! [/QUOTE]Good 'ol Arroyo. I'll never forget earlier this summer when I just came home from work and my co-manager called me. He told me Arroyo had just pitched 1 inning and given up 12 earned runs (or something in the neighborhood)... For the 2nd straight year, he posted solid numbers after the all-star break.