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We will list all of the players eligible at each position by the end of this month and list them here and on the NFBC main page under our rankings. We're still redesigning the site, but will have those links updated shortly.



There are a few folks who will start the year as UT-only because they did not qualify at any position under our rules. They include:



Utility

1. David Ortiz Bos.

2. Jim Thome WSox

3. Travis Hafner Cle.

4. Kendry Morales LAA

5. Gary Sheffield Det.

6. Rocco Baldelli FA

7. Frank Thomas FA

8. Matt Stairs Phi.

9. Cliff Floyd FA

10. Jose Vidro FA

11. Craig Monroe FA

12. Eric Chavez Oak.



Morales played 27 games with the Angels last year, but not more than 20 at any position. He played 12 games in right field and six at first base. He will be UT-only until he plays 10 games at any position in 2009.



Chavez played 23 games in the majors last year and only 15 at third base and 8 at DH.



I have made an executive decision on Pablo Sandoval and will give him 1B eligibility to start the season. He played 41 games with the Giants last year and played 17 at first base, 12 at third base and 11 at catcher. He is projected to start at third base and with that much service time I believe he deserves to start out with a set position. He played the most at first base and will qualify there to start the 2009 NFBC season. Once he plays 10 games at third base, he will have dual eligibility.



If you have any questions on any other players, feel free to post them here. Any prospect who didn't have any service time in the majors last year would naturally qualify at the position he played the most in the minors last year. I'll list the eligibility lists as we post them on other threads and update them right here.



First Basemen

1. Albert Pujols St.L

2. Miguel Cabrera Det.

3. Ryan Howard Phi.

4. Mark Teixeira NYY

5. Lance Berkman Hou.

6. Prince Fielder Mil.

7. Justin Morneau. Min.

8. Adrian Gonzalez S.D.

9. Kevin Youkilis Bos.

10. Derrek Lee Cubs

11. Chris Davis Tex.

12. Aubrey Huff Bal.

13. Joey Votto Cin.

14. Carlos Pena T.B.

15. Garrett Atkins Col.

16. Carlos Delgado Mets

17. James Loney L.A.

18. Jorge Cantu Fla.

19. Conor Jackson Ari.

20. Adam LaRoche Pit.

21. Carlos Guillen Det.

22. Paul Konerko WSox

23. Pablo Sandoval S.F.

24. Nick Swisher NYY

25. Hank Blalock Tex.

26. Billy Butler K.C.

27. Casey Kotchman Atl.

28. Jason Giambi FA

29. Mike Jacobs K.C.

30. Ryan Garko Cle.

31. Casey Blake L.A.

32. Lyle Overbay Tor.

33. Todd Helton Col.

34. Chad Tracy Ari.

35. Daric Barton Oak.

36. Ronnie Belliard Wash.

37. Kevin Millar FA

38. Nick Johnson Wash.

39. Ryan Shealy K.C.

40. Richie Sexson FA

41. Rich Aurilia S.F.

42. Jeff Baker Col.

43. Wilson Betemit WSox

44. Ross Gload K.C.

45. John Bowker S.F.

46. Dmitri Young Wash.

47. Kila Ka’aihue K.C.

48. Doug Mientkiewicz FA

49. Frank Catalanotto Tex.

50. Chris Duncan St.L

51. Aaron Boone Hou.

52. Wes Helms Fla.

53. Sean Casey FA

54. Miguel Cairo FA

55. Kory Casto Wash.

56. Robb Quinlann LAA

57. Tony Clark Ari.

58. Bryan LaHair Sea.

59. Travis Ishikawa S.F.

60. Chris Shelton Sea.

61. Ben Broussard FA

62. Gaby Sanchez Fla.

63. Dan Johnson T.B.

64. Adam Rosalex Cin.

65. Mark Trumbo LAA

66. Brad Nelson Mil.



Second Basemen

1. Ian Kinsler Tex.

2. Dustin Pedroia Bos.

3. Brandon Phillips Cin.

4. Chase Utley Phi.

5. Brian Roberts Bal.

6. Alexei Ramirez WSox

7. Dan Uggla Fla.

8. Robinson Cano NYY

9. Howie Kendrick LAA

10. Mark DeRosa Cle.

11. Jose Lopez Sea.

12. Kelly Johnson Atl.

13. Placido Polanco Det.

14. Rickie Weeks Mil.

15. Mike Aviles K.C.

16. Orlando Hudson FA

17. Kazuo Matsui Hou.

18. Aaron Hill Tor.

19. Akinori Iwamura T.B.

20. Asdrubal Cabrera Cle.

21. Felipe Lopez Ari.

22. Alexi Cassila Min.

23. Freddy Sanchez Pit.

24. Mark Ellis Oak.

25. Maicer Izturis LAA

26. Emilio Bonifacio Fla.

27. Emmanuel Burriss S.F.

28. Mike Fontenot Cubs

29. Blake DeWitt L.A.

30. Luis Castillo Mets

31. Clint Barmes Col.

32. Ronnie Belliard Wash.

33. Eugenio Velez S.F.

34. Jeff Kent FA

35. Marco Scutaro Tor.

36. Brendan Harris Min.

37. Ray Durham FA

38. Aaron Miles Cubs

39. Jeff Baker Col.

40. Nick Punto Min.

41. Joe Inglett Tor.

42. Alberto Callaspo K.C.

43. Mark Grudzielanek FA

44. Mark Loretta FA

45. Adam Kennedy St.L

46. Ronny Cedeno Cubs

47. Edgar Gonzalez S.D.

48. Damion Easley FA

49. Juan Uribe FA

50. Jamey Carroll Cle.

51. David Eckstein FA

52. Tadahito Iguchi Phi.

53. Esteban German K.C.

54. Omar Quintanilla Col.

55. Augie Ojeda Ari.

56. Luis Rivas FA

57. Brendan Ryan St.L

58. Ramon Santiago Det.

59. Chin-lung Hu L.A.

60. Sean Rodriguez LAA

61. Joaquin Arias Tex.

62. David Newhan FA

63. Pablo Ozuna FA

64. Eric Patterson Oak.

65. Argenis Reyes Mets

66. Luis Maza L.A.

67. Jonathan Herrera Col.

68. Jayson Nix WSox

69. Matt Antonelli SD

70. Chris Getz WSox

71. Josh Barfield Cle.



Shortstops

1. Hanley Ramirez Fla.

2. Jose Reyes Mets

3. Jimmy Rollins Phi.

4. Rafael Furcal L.A.

5. Stephen Drew Ari.

6. Troy Tulowitzki Col.

7. Derek Jeter NYY

8. Jhonny Peralta Cle.

9. Michael Young Tex.

10. J.J. Hardy Mil.

11. Miguel Tejada Hou.

12. Ryan Theriot Cubs

13. Orlando Cabrera Det.

14. Mike Aviles K.C.

15. Yunel Escobar Atl.

16. Edgar Renteria S.F.

17. Asdrubal Cabrera Cle.

18. Yuniesky Betancourt Sea.

19. Cristian Guzman Wash.

20. Maicer Iztruis LAA

21. Jason Bartlett T.B.

22. Khalil Greene St.L

23. Jed Lowrie Bos.

24. Emmanuel Burriss S.F.

25. Clint Barmes Col.

26. Bobby Crosby Oak.

27. Brandon Wood LAA

28. Marco Scutaro Tor.

29. Brendan Harris Min.

30. Erick Aybar LAA

31. Cesar Izturis Bal.

32. Aaron Miles Cubs

33. Ben Zobrist T.B.

34. Julio Lugo Bos.

35. Nick Punto Min.

36. Jeff Keppinger Cin.

37. Omar Infante Atl.

38. Ramon Vazquez FA

39. Jerry Hairston Jr. Cin.

40. David Eckstein FA

41. Jack Wilson Pit.

42. Nomar Garciaparra FA

43. Ronny Cedeno Cubs

44. Alcides Escobar Mil.

45. Reid Brignac T.B.

46. Jason Donald Phi.

47. Omar Quintanilla Col.

48. Luis Rodriguez S.D.

49. Omar Vizquel FA

50. Angel Berroa NYY

51. Augie Ojeda Ari.

52. Luis Rivas FA

53. Eric Bruntlett Phi.

54. Brendan Ryan St.L

55. Elvis Andrus Tex.

56. Ramon Santiago Det.

57. Alex Cora FA

58. John McDonald Tor.

59. Alex Cintron FA

60. Chin-lung Hu L.A.

61. Craig Counsell FA

62. Tony Pena Jr. K.C.

63. Juan Castro FA

64. Adam Everett Det.

65. Brandon Fahey Bal.

66. Alberto Gonzalez Wash.

67. Ivan Ochoa S.F.

68. Brent Lillibridge WSox

69. Freddie Bynum FA

70. Brian Bixler Pit.

71. Luis Hernandez K.C.

72. Paul Janish Cin.

73. Luis Cruz Pit.

74. Brian Bocock S.F.



Third Basemen

1. Alex Rodriguez NYY

2. David Wright Mets

3. Evan Longoria T.B.

4. Aramis Ramirez Cubs

5. Kevin Youkilis Bos.

6. Chris Davis Tex.

7. Chipper Jones Atl.

8. Aubrey Huff Bal.

9. Garrett Atkins Col.

10. Chones Figgins LAA

11. Adrian Beltre Sea.

12. Ryan Zimmerman Wash.

13. Alex Gordon K.C.

14. Mark DeRosa Cle.

15. Jorge Cantu Fla.

16. Carlos Guillen Det.

17. Troy Glaus St.L

18. Mark Reynolds Ari.

19. Edwin Encarnacion Cin.

20. Melvin Mora Bal.

21. Hank Blalock. Tex.

22. Kevin Kouzmanoff S.D.

23. Mike Lowell. Bos.

24. Ian Stewart Col.

25. Casey Blake L.A.

26. Ty Wigginton FA

27. Scott Rolen Tor.

28. Jed Lowrie Bos.

29. Pedro Feliz Phi.

30. Joe Crede FA

31. Brandon Wood LAA

32. Blake DeWitt L.A.

33. Andy LaRoche Pit.

34. Bill Hall Mil.

35. Martin Prado Atl.

36. Marco Scutaro Tor.

37. Brendan Harris Min.

38. Ronnie Belliard Wash.

39. Brandon Inge Det.

40. Jose Bautista Tor.

41. Rich Aurilia S.F.

42. Wilson Betemit WSox

43. Willy Aybar T.B.

44. Greg Dobbs Phi.

45. Andy Marte Cle.

46. Jose Castillo Atl.

47. Geoff Blum Hou.

48. Jack Hannahan Oak.

49. Omar Infante Atl.

50. Ramon Vazquez FA

51. Brian Busher Min.

52. Juan Uribe FA

53. Jamey Carroll Cle.

54. Doug Mientkiewicz FA

55. Wes Helms Fla.

56. Mike Lamb Mil.

57. Russell Branyan Sea.

58. Eric Bruntlett Phi.

59. Craig Counsell FA

60. Augie Ojeda FA

61. Chris Gomez Bal.

62. Robb Quinlan LAA

63. German Duran Tex.

64. Donnie Murphy Bal.

65. Morgan Ensberg. Cle.

65. Matt Gamel Mil.

66. Wes Hodges. Cle.

67. Pedro Alvarez. Pit.

68. Josh Fields WSox



Catchers

1. Russell Martin L.A.

2. Brian McCann Atl.

3. Joe Mauer Min.

4. Geovany Soto Cubs

5. Victor Martinez Cle.

6. Ryan Doumit Pit.

7. Chris Iannetta Col.

8. Matt Wieters Bal.

9. Bengie Molina S.F.

10. Jorge Posada NYY

11. Ramon Hernandez Cin.

12. A.J. Pierzynski WSox

13. Jarrod Saltalamacchia Tex.

14. Yadier Molina St.L

15. Mike Napoli LAA

16. Kelly Shoppach Cle.

17. Dioner Navarro T.B.

18. Kurt Suzuki Oak.

19. Jesus Flores Wash.

20. Chris Snyder Ari.

21. Jeff Clement Sea.

22. Brandon Inge Det.

23. Taylor Teagarden Tex.

24. John Baker Fla.

25. Gerald Laird Det.

26. Kenji Johjima Sea.

27. Ivan Rodriguez FA

28. Rod Barajas Tor.

29. J.R. Towles Hou.

30. Miguel Oliva K.C.

31. Jason Varitek FA

32. Carlos Ruiz Phi.

33. Jason Kendall Mil.

34. Jeff Mathis LAA

35. John Buck K.C.

36. Brian Schneider Mets

37. Chris Coste Phi.

38. Nick Hundley S.D.

39. Yorvit Torrealba Col.

40. Matt Treanor Det.

41. Paul Bako Cubs

42. Gregg Zaun FA

43. Miguel Montero Ari.

44. Ronny Paulino Phi.

45. Jose Molina NYY

46. Brad Ausmus FA

47. Ramon Castro Mets

48. Wil Nieves Wash.

49. Jason LaRue St.L

50. Shawn Riggans T.B.

51. Paul Lo Duca FA

52. Humberto Quintero. Hou.

53. Dave Ross Atl.

54. Josh Bard Bos.

55. Kevin Cash NYY

56. Henry Blanco FA

57. Mike Redmond Min.

58. Toby Hall FA

59. Raul Chavez Pit.

60. Guillermo Quiroz Bal.

61. Steve Holm S.F.

62. Mike Rabelo Fla.

63. Ryan Hanigan Cin.

64. Jamie Burke Sea.

65. Chad Moeller. FA

66. Michael Barrett Tor.

67. Rob Bowen Oak.

68. Luke Carlin. S.D.

69. Danny Ardoin L.A

70. Clint Simmons Atl.

71. Corky Miller Atl.

72. Max Ramirez Tex.



Outfielders

1. Grady Sizemore. Cle.

2. Ryan Braun Mil.

3. Josh Hamilton Tex.

3. Matt Holliday Oak.

5. Carlos Beltran Mets

6. Alfonso Soriano Cubs

7. Carl Crawford T.B.

8. Carlos Lee Hou.

9. B.J. Upton T.B.

10. Manny Ramirez FA

11. Carlos Quentin WSox

12. Ichiro Suzuki Sea.

13. Jacoby Ellsbury Bos.

14. Jason Bay Bos.

15. Alex Rios Tor.

16. Nick Markakis Bal.

17. Matt Kemp L.A.

18. Curtis Granderson Det.

19. Vladimir Guerrero LAA

20. Magglio Ordonez Det.

21. Nate McLouth Pit.

22. Corey Hart Mil.

23. Shane Victorino Phi.

24. Bobby Abreu FA

25. Ryan Ludwick St.L

26. Hunter Pence Hou.

27. Adam Dunn FA

28. Vernon Wells Tor.

29. Jermaine Dye WSox

30. Jay Bruce Cin.

31. Torii Hunter LAA

32. Johnny Damon NYY

33. Raul Ibanez Phi.

34. Chris Young. Ari.

35. Andre Ethier L.A.

36. Brad Hawpe Col.

37. Conor Jackson Ari.

38. Xavier Nady. NYY

39. Jayson Werth Phi.

40. Mark DeRosa Cle.

41. Lastings Milledge Wash.

42. Delmon Young Min.

43. Milton Bradley Cubs

44. Elijah Dukes Wash.

45. Nick Swisher NYY

46. Carlos Gomez Min.

47. Pat Burrell T.B.

48. Willy Taveras Cin.

49. Denard Span Min.

50. Justin Upton Ari.

51. Adam Jones Bal.

52. J.D. Drew. Bos.

53. Shin-Soo Choo Cle.

54. Nelson Cruz Tex.

55. Eric Byrnes. Ari.

56. Mike Cameron Mil.

57. David DeJesus K.C.

58. Hideki Matsui NYY

59. Rick Ankiel. St.L

60. Randy Winn S.F.

61. Michael Cuddyer. Min.

62. Jason Kubel Min.

63. Cameron Maybin Fla.

64. Coco Crisp K.C.

65. Jeff Francoeur Atl.

66. Jeremy Hermida Fla.

67. Ken Griffey Jr. FA

68. Josh Willingham Wash.

69. Ty Wigginton FA

70. Michael Bourn Hou.

71. Aaron Rowand S.F.

72. Jose Guillen K.C.

73. Chase Headley S.D.

74. Fred Lewis S.F.

75. Ryan Church Mets

76. Brian Giles S.D.

77. Luke Scott Bal.

78. Ben Francisco Cle.

79. Adam Lind Tor.

80. Carlos Gonzalez Col.

81. Jack Cust Oak.

82. David Murphy Tex.

83. Kosuke Fukudome Cubs

84. Josh Anderson Atl.

85. Juan Pierre L.A.

86. Ryan Sweeney Oak.

87. Travis Snider. Tor.

88. Jody Gerut S.D.

89. Garret Anderson FA

90. Cody Ross Fla.

91. Mark Teahen K.C.

92. Marcus Thames Det.

93. Skip Schmaker St.L

94. Juan Rivera LAA

95. Marlon Byrd Tex.

96. Gary Matthews Jr. LAA

97. Matt LaPorta Cle.

98. Colby Rasmus St.L

99. Brandon Moss Pit.

100. Eric Hinske FA

101. Jim Edmonds FA

102. Mark Kotsay Bos.

103. Fernando Tatis Mets

104. Scott Hairston S.D.

105. Emil Brown FA

106. Franklin Gutierrez Sea.

107. Reed Johnson. Cubs

108. Gregor Blanco Atl.

109. Andrew McCutchen Pit.

110. Willie Harris Wash.

111. Gabe Gross T.B.

112. Melky Cabrera NYY

113. Luis Gonzalez FA

114. Joe inglett Tor.

115. David Dellucci Cle.

116. Omar Infante Atl.

117. Jerry Hairston Jr. Cin.

118. Corey Patterson Wash.

119. Ryan Spillborghs Col.

120. Matt Joyce Det.

121. Austkin Kearns FA

122. Steve Pearce Pit.

123. Brandon Jones Atl.

124. Joey Gathright K.C.

125. Dexter Fowler Col.



Utility

1. David Ortiz Bos.

2. Jim Thome WSox

3. Travis Hafner Cle.

4. Kendry Morales LAA

5. Gary Sheffield Det.

6. Rocco Baldelli FA

7. Frank Thomas FA

8. Matt Stairs Phi.

9. Cliff Floyd FA

10. Jose Vidro FA

11. Craig Monroe FA

12. Eric Chavez Oak.



Starting Pitchers

1. Johan Santana Mets

2. Tim Lincecum S.F.

3. CC Sabathia NYY

4. Cole Hamels Phi.

5. Brandon Webb Ari.

6. Jake Peavy S.D.

7. Dan Haren Ari.

8. Roy Halladay Tor.

9. Josh Beckett Bos.

10. Francisco Liriano Min.

11. Roy Oswalt Hou.

12. Cliff Lee Cle.

13. Scott Kazmir T.B.

14. Edinson Volquez Cin.

15. Chad Billingsley L.A.

16. Ervin Santana LAA

17. Rich Harden Cubs

18. A.J. Burnett NYY

19. John Lackey LAA

20. James Shields T.B.

21. Daisuke Matsuzaka Bos.

22. Jon Lester Bos.

23. Felix Hernandez Sea.

24. Joba Chamberlain NYY

25. Yovani Gallardo Mil.

26. Carlos Zambrano Cubs

27. Chris Young S.D.

28. Matt Cain S.F.

29. Adam Wainwright St.L

30. Zack Greinke K.C.

31. Ben Sheets FA

32. Javier Vazquez Atl.

33. David Price T.B.

34. Ryan Dempster Cubs

35. Ricky Nolasco Fla.

36. Aaron Harang Cin.

37. Justin Verlander Det.

38. Max Scherzer Ari.

39. Jered Weaver LAA

40. John Danks WSox

41. Erik Bedard Sea.

42. Ted Lilly Cubs

43. Derek Lowe Atl.

44. Brett Myers Phi.

45. Matt Garza K.C.

46. Josh Johnson Fla.

47. Chien-Ming Wang NYY

48. Gil Meche K.C.

49. Johnny Cueto Cin.

50. Scott Baker Min.

51. Kevin Slowey Min.

52. Fausto Carmona Cle.

53. John Maine Mets

54. Gavin Floyd WSox

55. Mark Buehrle WSox

56. Clayton Kershaw L.A.

57. Oliver Perez FA

58. Joe Saunders LAA

59. Jair Jurrjens Atl.

60. Bronson Arroyo Cin.

61. Justin Duchscherer Oak.

62. Andy Sonnanstine T.B.

63. Clay Buchholz Bos.

64. Mike Pelfrey Mets

65. Ubaldo Jimenez Col.

66. Aaron Cook Col.

67. Kyle Lohse St.L

68. Manny Parra Mil.

69. Andy Pettitte FA

70. Randy Wolf FA

71. Wandy Rodriguez Hou.

72. Randy Johnson S.F.

73. Paul Maholm Pit.

74. Jeremy Bonderman Det.

75. Hiroki Kuroda L.A.

76. Jesse Litsch Tor.

77. Dave Bush Mil.

78. Chris Volstad Fla.

79. Chris Carpenter St.L

80. Pedro Martinez Mets

81. Jeremy Guthrie Bal.

82. Jonathan Sanchez S.F.

83. Jeff Francis Col.

84. Todd Wellemeyer St.L

85. Armando Galarraga Det.

86. Jamie Moyer Phi.

87. Scott Olsen Wash.

88. Joe Blanton Phi.

89. Phil Hughes NYY

90. Brad Penny Bos.

91. Nick Blackburn Min.

92. Jon Garland FA

93. Kyle Davies K.C.

94. Jorge Campillo Atl.

95. Braden Looper FA

96. Vicente Padilla Tex.

97. Tim Wakefield Bos.

98. Tommy Hanson Atl.

99. John Lannan Wash.

100. Edwin Jackson Det.

101. Glen Perkins Min.

102. Anthony Reyes Cle.

103. Paul Byrd FA

104. Jorge De La Rosa Col.

105. Dana Eveland Oak.

106. Kevin Millwood Tex.

107. Brian Bannister K.C.

108. Kyle Kendrick Phi.

109. Jason Marquis Col.

110. Brian Moehler Hou.

111. Tim Redding Mets

112. Jeff Suppan Mil.

113. Barry Zito S.F.

114. Brandon Backe Hou.

115. Matt Harrison Tex.

116. Garrett Olson Bal.

117. Kenny Rodgers FA

118. Livan Hernandez FA

119. Daniel Cabrera Wash.

120. Zach Miner Det.

121. Jo-Jo Reyes Atl.

122. Sidney Ponson FA

123. Tim Hudson Atl.

124. Shaun Marcum Tor.

125. Brian Burres Bal.

126. John Smoltz Bos.

127. Jose Contreras WSox

128. Odalis Perez FA

129. Livan Hernandez FA

130. Mark Hendrickson FA

131. Doug Davis Ari.

132. Sean Marshall Cubs

133. Dontrelle Willis Det.

134. Jeremy Sowers Cle.

135. Greg Smith Col.

136. Ian Snell Pit.



[ January 22, 2009, 12:39 PM: Message edited by: Greg Ambrosius ]

Hey stache,

Your dropping the ball on this one. If you going to make Sandoval 1st base eligible then Morales should be an OF'er. You need to be consistent. You still have a few months left to make the right decision.

hey cork,



why is it a problem to live with his "executive" decision???? it was obviously thought out and a decision rendered for whatever reason....you have plenty of time to adjust your cheatsheets....remember its january!!!

Just pure logic. Morales 12 games in RF-UT only.

Sandoval 17 games at 1st- 1st base elg. WTF?

Why not make Sandoval CATCHER eligble while were at it. If the rule is 20 games last season then it should be 20 games not 17. I have to wonder if Sandoval was a 39 yr old journeyman if he'd be 1st elg...I bet not. The fact that he will most likely become Catcher Eligible at some point in the season makes him have some serious fantasy value. The fact that you don't have to tie up a UT spot to draft him proves this.

Just looking to make it right.

Another question to ask is why did their need to be an "executive" decision in the first place? If the rule is 20 games then that is rule, is it not?

Originally posted by Corkedbats:

Just pure logic. Morales 12 games in RF-UT only.

Sandoval 17 games at 1st- 1st base elg. WTF?

Why not make Sandoval CATCHER eligble while were at it. If the rule is 20 games last season then it should be 20 games not 17. I have to wonder if Sandoval was a 39 yr old journeyman if he'd be 1st elg...I bet not. The fact that he will most likely become Catcher Eligible at some point in the season makes him have some serious fantasy value. The fact that you don't have to tie up a UT spot to draft him proves this.

Just looking to make it right.

Another question to ask is why did their need to be an "executive" decision in the first place? If the rule is 20 games then that is rule, is it not? Why would anyone call me "hey stache?" Sheesh.



My thinking is that Sandoval played 29 games at the corner infield position last year and will likely be drafted there for 2009. He played 17 at first base and 12 at third base and the Giants said he will start at third base. He's not expected to catch and if he catches 10 games then he can qualify after that. You're right, I could have left him at UT, but I think allowing him CI eligibility on Draft Day is consistent with how his eligibility should be and probably will be in many other leagues/games.



Morales will play first base this year and falls under our rules like everyone else: 20+ games played (27) and none over 20. No need to make a decision to allow him to qualify at a position he likely won't play at this year. Let him earn 1B eligibility.



Now you know and now you can adjust your Cheat Sheets accordingly. Good luck.

stache is in reference to your awesome porn stache.

Your still not being consistent. If the rule is 20 games per position then that should be the rule. Why make an exception for anyone? Why have rules if we aren't going to follow them?

Originally posted by Corkedbats:

stache is in reference to your awesome porn stache.

Your still not being consistent. If the rule is 20 games per position then that should be the rule. Why make an exception for anyone? Why have rules if we aren't going to follow them? I'll tell my kids that tonight. They'll love it.



You are correct, I am making an exception for Sandoval. Our rules allow that because each year there is going to be someone who came up late in the year, played more than 20 games total and less than 20 at any position and be in a different boat than a September callup who played 19 games total and gets eligibility at a position he played 7 games at. We figured that out and wrote it in the rules that I can make exceptions if I deem necessary. I'm making this decision and letting folks know 2+ months in advance.



"Why have rules if we aren't going to follow them?" You have it all wrong. I am following my own rules. I'm making the exception, just like my rules allow. It's written there in black and white that exceptions can be made. Now we're on the same page.

I was thinking the same thing Greg was 17 games at 1B and 12 at 3B would make him a CI. I don't think stats can make a player just CI so give him 1B because 17 of those 29 games at CI were at first. Also he did not play DH like many other guys that fell short.



Greg does a great job with the NFBC and if he feels a guy should be 1B, 2B, 3B or whatever so be it. He has earned my trust and many others and he is always open to making changes if a lot of people have a problem with something.

Originally posted by Snord35:

I was thinking the same thing Greg was 17



Greg does a great job with the NFBC and if he feels a guy should be 1B, 2B, 3B or whatever so be it. He has earned my trust and many others and he is always open to making changes if a lot of people have a problem with something. Greg,

Since you openly admit you make up your own rules. Can you please make Sandoval a Catcher for this years draft.

Thanks

For those who haven't read the Rules section, here is our eligibility rule. Please note the bolded section:



6. Position Eligibility: The NFBC will use the following position eligibility rules in 2009: a) Players who played at least 20 games at any position in 2008 will qualify at that position for the entire 2009 NFBC season. Players who play 10 games at a new position in 2009 will be eligible at that position after they have played for the 10th time there this year.

b) Players who played less than 20 games total in the majors last year will be eligible at the position they played the most games at, not including DH or pinch-hitting.

c) Those players who only pinch-hit in the majors in 2008 will be position eligible according to their minor-league games played status in 2008. They would qualify at the position they played the most games in the minors.

d) Players who played all of 2008 in the minor leagues will be awarded position eligibility for 2009's NFBC season based on the most games played at all levels in the minors. STATS will determine that one eligible position before Draft Day and that will determine that players' status for 2009 once he is called up to the majors. Those players who only pinch-hit or DH in the minors will only be UT-eligible.

e) Players who played 20 or more games in the majors last year and didn't play 20 or more games at one position will be deemed UT-only eligible in 2009 unless otherwise designated by the NFBC Commissioner. The NFBC Commissioner will rule on player eligibility prior to the draft as he deems necessary. Those eligibility lists are final.

f) Additional position eligibility will be awarded during the season when a player has played a new position 10 times which he was not previously eligible.

Originally posted by Corkedbats:

quote:Originally posted by Snord35:

I was thinking the same thing Greg was 17



Greg does a great job with the NFBC and if he feels a guy should be 1B, 2B, 3B or whatever so be it. He has earned my trust and many others and he is always open to making changes if a lot of people have a problem with something. Greg,

Since you openly admit you make up your own rules. Can you please make Sandoval a Catcher for this years draft.

Thanks [/QUOTE]I'll definitely consider it and get back to the group....okay, he qualifies at first base. Good luck all.

Originally posted by Corkedbats:

Hey stache,

Your dropping the ball on this one. If you going to make Sandoval 1st base eligible then Morales should be an OF'er. You need to be consistent. You still have a few months left to make the right decision. I was wondering the same thing. Why give a guy eligibility at a position that he probably wont play this year. I think it would have been better to leave him as ut to start the year. If you change his elig. it looks as if you would make him eligible at the position that he most likely to play or just leave it alone.

I find it funny that someone called "Corkedbats" is complaining about rules being broken...

I do have to agree that giving Sandoval 1B eligibility and not Morales as an OF seems a little weird. They both played over 20 games but neither qualified by playing 20 at one position. Neither even played 50% of their games at a position so why one and not the other?

Why not end all this mess each year and change the 20 games down to 10?



The problem for most IMO is that the rules here are so different from the other leagues we play in.



Just change it to 10 and end all the BS.



Why is it 20 in the first place? It doesn't make and sense on some of these guys.

Originally posted by Tom Kessenich:

For those who haven't read the Rules section, here is our eligibility rule. Please note the bolded section:



6. Position Eligibility: The NFBC will use the following position eligibility rules in 2009: a) Players who played at least 20 games at any position in 2008 will qualify at that position for the entire 2009 NFBC season. Players who play 10 games at a new position in 2009 will be eligible at that position after they have played for the 10th time there this year.

b) Players who played less than 20 games total in the majors last year will be eligible at the position they played the most games at, not including DH or pinch-hitting.

c) Those players who only pinch-hit in the majors in 2008 will be position eligible according to their minor-league games played status in 2008. They would qualify at the position they played the most games in the minors.

d) Players who played all of 2008 in the minor leagues will be awarded position eligibility for 2009's NFBC season based on the most games played at all levels in the minors. STATS will determine that one eligible position before Draft Day and that will determine that players' status for 2009 once he is called up to the majors. Those players who only pinch-hit or DH in the minors will only be UT-eligible.

e) Players who played 20 or more games in the majors last year and didn't play 20 or more games at one position will be deemed UT-only eligible in 2009 unless otherwise designated by the NFBC Commissioner. The NFBC Commissioner will rule on player eligibility prior to the draft as he deems necessary. Those eligibility lists are final.

f) Additional position eligibility will be awarded during the season when a player has played a new position 10 times which he was not previously eligible. i think this says it all. end of conversation.



bill

Is Ramon Castro still only eligible at Utility?

I've updated this position eligibility list and will continue to do so as we post the rest of the positions this week. We'll also get these on the home page next week as well. If you see anyone we are missing at a position, let us know and we'll update it here for official use in all NFBC contests.

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

I've updated this position eligibility list and will continue to do so as we post the rest of the positions this week. We'll also get these on the home page next week as well. If you see anyone we are missing at a position, let us know and we'll update it here for official use in all NFBC contests. Thanks Stache

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

I have made an executive decision on Pablo Sandoval and will give him 1B eligibility to start the season. He played 41 games with the Giants last year and played 17 at first base, 12 at third base and 11 at catcher. He is projected to start at third base and with that much service time I believe he deserves to start out with a set position. He played the most at first base and will qualify there to start the 2009 NFBC season. Once he plays 10 games at third base, he will have dual eligibility.

i wonder how much his adp will be increased with the prospects of dual elgibility? if he has a sizzling spring, will he go in the single digits in any drafts?

Where is Matt Antonelli eligible?

Originally posted by overyourshoulder:

Where is Matt Antonelli eligible? Good question. 21 games with the Padres, 18 at second base. By definition, he is UT only. That's where he'd have to qualify at this point for Draft Day.



[ January 14, 2009, 01:33 PM: Message edited by: Greg Ambrosius ]

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

quote:Originally posted by overyourshoulder:

Where is Matt Antonelli eligible? Good question. 21 games with the Padres, 18 at second base. By definition, he is UT only. That's where he'd have to qualify at this point for Draft Day. [/QUOTE]Any reason why Sandoval gets a position (1b) and Antonelli is UT ? Antonelli IS a 2b right ?

Originally posted by Quahogs:

quote:Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

quote:Originally posted by overyourshoulder:

Where is Matt Antonelli eligible? Good question. 21 games with the Padres, 18 at second base. By definition, he is UT only. That's where he'd have to qualify at this point for Draft Day. [/QUOTE]Any reason why Sandoval gets a position (1b) and Antonelli is UT ? Antonelli IS a 2b right ? [/QUOTE]Diplomatic immunity?



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Why not change 20 games to 10 and end all of this confusion?



Does anyone have this confusion with other leagues they play in?



Sorry, I just don't understand why it has to be 20 and why some are exempt, and others not.



[ January 14, 2009, 03:18 PM: Message edited by: JohnZ ]