Changing Owner Names and Team Names?

Quack & Willy · Post by **Quack & Willy** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:45 am

Just a thought here, but is there any reason why a team would have the need to change the owner's name after all teams have been drafted? Seems like some people here don't want to own up to the team they drafted, and are changing things up.

The Mighty Men · Post by **The Mighty Men** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:55 am

Originally posted by Quack & Willy:

some people here don't want to own up to the team they drafted That is a really good way to say it!

Cooperstown · Post by **Cooperstown** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:14 am

What, competing incognito?

Say it ain't so.

Maybe that will be my next team name, The Competing Incognitos.

CC's Desperados · Post by **CC's Desperados** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:34 am

I think they are avoiding the free agent pick up list. By changing names, you have to work a little harder to look for some fantasy owners. If it's harder, you might not look so hard.

RedRyder · Post by **RedRyder** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:39 am

I changed my owner name last year after I got married in the 7th round of the Main.

-Mrs. Josh Hamilton

Sebadiah23 · Post by **Sebadiah23** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:43 am

The one thing the owner has to keep in mind is being fair to everyone else in the contest. If everyone was constantly changing their names, the standings, especially the overall standings, would be a big useless mess. Changing names would then be banned. Everyone else is looking two steps ahead and sees what the consequences of their actions would be. And then they do the right thing.

The Mighty Men · Post by **The Mighty Men** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:50 am

Originally posted by RedRyder:

I changed my owner name last year after I got married in the 7th round of the Main.

-Mrs. Josh Hamilton This is acceptable. You owned up to it. Plus, he was a great pick for you!

Quack & Willy · Post by **Quack & Willy** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:57 am

Originally posted by Sebadiah23:

The one thing the owner has to keep in mind is being fair to everyone else in the contest. If everyone was constantly changing their names, the standings, especially the overall standings, would be a big useless mess. Changing names would then be banned. Everyone else is looking two steps ahead and sees what the consequences of their actions would be. And then they do the right thing. exactly my point. I have zero issue with changing names prior to the season as you may want to "protect" your strategy in selected leagues. At this point, no more full season leagues to draft, and it should be shut-off. No changing team names, or owner names. Additionally, I wonder how they are going to tie together the Online vs Main teams now since an owner has different names.

Greg/Tom - care to address?

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:10 am

Originally posted by Quack & Willy:

quote:Originally posted by Sebadiah23:

The one thing the owner has to keep in mind is being fair to everyone else in the contest. If everyone was constantly changing their names, the standings, especially the overall standings, would be a big useless mess. Changing names would then be banned. Everyone else is looking two steps ahead and sees what the consequences of their actions would be. And then they do the right thing. exactly my point. I have zero issue with changing names prior to the season as you may want to "protect" your strategy in selected leagues. At this point, no more full season leagues to draft, and it should be shut-off. No changing team names, or owner names. Additionally, I wonder how they are going to tie together the Online vs Main teams now since an owner has different names.

Greg/Tom - care to address? [/QUOTE]As we found out last year, when NFBC owners change their owner names it really causes all kinds of trouble for us as we match up teams not only in the online championship and the main event but for your username and password the next season. We kept losing access to an owners' teams last year after that person changed ownership names and it became a pain for that owner, us and STATS.

I hope owners think twice before doing this as it very well could goof up the Combined Standings along with a lot of other things that will only make our jobs tougher later on.

Glenneration X · Post by **Glenneration X** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:34 am

I wouldn't be surprised if some owners who are very concious of their place in NFBC history would use an owner name change for poorly performing teams so that those teams don't negatively affect their lifetime rankings.

Now that I think about it....I'd like to change my owner name for all my teams (they all suck) so I can be a rookie again next year!

Ryan C · Post by **Ryan C** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:04 pm

Guess I won't change my name to "Cowardly Robert Ford" after all.

Dirt Dogs · Post by **Dirt Dogs** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:55 pm

Greg,

You should try to update the site so owner names cannot be changed on the system. Team Names, sure why not, you should be able to change that a million times. But if owner name changes could potentially have standing/scoring implications i think you should update the sites so owner names cannot be changed.

Thunder · Post by **Thunder** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:21 pm

i have a hard time understanding all this. does anybody/everybody care about some owner changing his/her name? if so, please explain it to me!

bill

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:50 pm

Originally posted by Kentucky Reign:

i have a hard time understanding all this. does anybody/everybody care about some owner changing his/her name? if so, please explain it to me!

bill Why list them at all if they are not accurate?

Simple question.

There are BIG prizes on the line for a double winner. I'm sure the insurer wouldn't mind a main event team changing its owners listed name to that of a high ranking owner in the online event right before the final day of the season.

Childish and non-transparent.

~Lance

JohnZ · Post by **JohnZ** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:15 pm

Originally posted by sportsbettingman:

quote:Originally posted by Kentucky Reign:

i have a hard time understanding all this. does anybody/everybody care about some owner changing his/her name? if so, please explain it to me!

bill Why list them at all if they are not accurate?

Simple question.

There are BIG prizes on the line for a double winner. I'm sure the insurer wouldn't mind a main event team changing its owners listed name to that of a high ranking owner in the online event right before the final day of the season.

Childish and non-transparent.

~Lance [/QUOTE]I think everyone should change their name tonight to "Scott Keikoan"

TRAIN · Post by **TRAIN** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:54 am

I do not understand why team owners are allowed to change their names or their team names once the contest has started. When you have such a high stakes and high profile contest (partnered with NBC), you cannot allow even the slightest hint of impropriety. One day I look at my team owners' names and team names and the next day they change and all of a sudden I am competing against a new team name or team owner? It just doesn't feel right

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:48 am

Originally posted by sportsbettingman:

quote:Originally posted by Kentucky Reign:

i have a hard time understanding all this. does anybody/everybody care about some owner changing his/her name? if so, please explain it to me!

bill Why list them at all if they are not accurate?

Simple question.

There are BIG prizes on the line for a double winner. I'm sure the insurer wouldn't mind a main event team changing its owners listed name to that of a high ranking owner in the online event right before the final day of the season.

Childish and non-transparent.

~Lance [/QUOTE]I've asked STATS if we can lock this going forward. My first thought about this is exactly what Lance said here with the insurance policy. We really can't have teams changing owner names and team names with this bonus plan in place and I'm not sure what benefit it does for the competition anyway for folks to be changing owner names. Team names can be harmless, but I'll look into locking both if we can.

Glenneration X · Post by **Glenneration X** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:43 am

Originally posted by Kentucky Reign:

i have a hard time understanding all this. does anybody/everybody care about some owner changing his/her name? if so, please explain it to me!

bill The real question isn't why everyone cares about some owner changing his/her name. The question is why they would change his/her name in the first place?

I can't think of one legitimate reason why anyone would change their owner name AFTER a contest has started. I can think of many illegitimate reasons.

Greg, with the legitimacy issues caused by other fantasy contests, you really can't afford any hint of impropriety. One thing the contests you run have is the faith of your customers that it is fairly run. There is no reason to risk that so that a small minority can play games that don't need to be played.

Glenn

Dirt Dogs · Post by **Dirt Dogs** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:55 am

Think about this. If i know a few guys in the main event and one of them is doing real good and I have a online team that is doing real good but my main event team is in the dog house. Whats to keep me from changing my owner name to the my friends name so now his awesome main and my awesome online team are now viewed as one and we sit atop the combined team rankings for the 5K prize?

not to say it's happening but i think that is what people are concerned about.

Quahogs · Post by **Quahogs** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:06 am

Originally posted by Dirt Dogs:

Think about this. If i know a few guys in the main event and one of them is doing real good and I have a online team that is doing real good but my main event team is in the dog house. Whats to keep me from changing my owner name to the my friends name so now his awesome main and my awesome online team are now viewed as one and we sit atop the combined team rankings for the 5K prize?

not to say it's happening but i think that is what people are concerned about. You can all change your names to Frank Zappa but Greg knows that Dweezil bought one team and Moon Unit bought the other. HE knows what's up. That's good enough for me.

Dirt Dogs · Post by **Dirt Dogs** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:16 am

yes, Greg knows whats up and who signed up etc.

But the point is that if people are changing names it CAN affect the combined overall standings, even though it will all be worked out at the end because he knows who signed up. But if teams arent linked together cause of owner name changes you dont think the standings might be skewed slightly.

If i change my owner name today, yeah greg knows who the real owner is but then my teams dont match up thus affecting the overall combined standings would it not...

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:18 am

Originally posted by Dirt Dogs:

Think about this. If i know a few guys in the main event and one of them is doing real good and I have a online team that is doing real good but my main event team is in the dog house. Whats to keep me from changing my owner name to the my friends name so now his awesome main and my awesome online team are now viewed as one and we sit atop the combined team rankings for the 5K prize?

not to say it's happening but i think that is what people are concerned about. They don't suddenly become linked just because someone changes their team name or owner's name. That definitely isn't happening, so no worries there.

Here's the deal: When you first sign up the team name becomes "Team Last Name." So when I sign up it becomes Team Ambrosius for every team. Not every team comes up with a clever team name right away, so I always left open the ability to change your team name for the simple reason that some folks come up with a clever name after Opening Day.

I didn't realize that the owner's name could be changed, but we can easily lock that and now the team name too. I've told STATS to do that and they are more than happy to do that because as I said previously that was really causing troubles for us on the back-end with owners whose teams were not showing up under their real names.

If this hasn't been done already, it's being done now. Three weeks in is long enough for someone to name their team.

Glad to see that you folks have found more loopholes in the NFBC than I ever knew existed. Crazy stuff.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:19 am

Originally posted by Dirt Dogs:

yes, Greg knows whats up and who signed up etc.

But the point is that if people are changing names it CAN affect the combined overall standings, even though it will all be worked out at the end because he knows who signed up. But if teams arent linked together cause of owner name changes you dont think the standings might be skewed slightly.

If i change my owner name today, yeah greg knows who the real owner is but then my teams dont match up thus affecting the overall combined standings would it not... No it would not.

Purple Helmets · Post by **Purple Helmets** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:23 am

It personally doesn't bother me at all that a few individuals change their own name and team name for their entry. I think those individuals do it to try to hide their moves and I can appreciate their strategic efforts. There is one owner in particular whose teams I follow simply because I know he is trying to avoid it by making the aforementioned changes. Seems like a lot of wasted thought...I have enough troubles deciding on my weekly moves without considering what I want my name or my team name to be for a given week. If it makes Greg's job more difficult then I guess it is an issue that should be addressed.

Gekko, what do you think? How come you're so quiet on this topic?

Dirt Dogs · Post by **Dirt Dogs** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:24 am

Awesome!

Glad to know that the standings cannot be messed with in anyway with owner & team name changes.

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