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Same problem both sites. No matter the feed back they will continue to do what they do. Greg will still say they can't fix it this year. But next year it will get better. But it doesn't. 6 years running! Maybe next year? Not!

wa wa wa , here's your bottle

Originally posted by Walla Walla:

Same problem both sites. No matter the feed back they will continue to do what they do. Greg will still say they can't fix it this year. But next year it will get better. But it doesn't. 6 years running! Maybe next year? Not! Same problem with MDC and STATS? They don't even do the same things? But go ahead and list them John and tell me what they could do better to get your teams higher in the standings.



MDC was fantastic for all of our online drafts. One owner out of 600 had autodraft on when his first round pick came up and we went BEYOND the call of duty to rectify that first round. John, you and 11 other owners know that. So please don't blame MDC for anything that happened to you there.



The criticisms for STATS are always on enhancements that aren't completed yet. Yeah, we'd all love every enhancement PERFECT, right down to WHIP showing 8 places on LIVE STANDINGS!! But if you really think the site is holding you back from winning this year, then you are right that another game is better suited for you next year.



It's a shame you really think nothing has changed in six years. We have Live Standings, bid functionality that is much improved from six years ago, ah, I could go on and on. But why bother.



Good luck John and again thanks for six fun years.

Greg, I'm not about to repeat 6 years of complaints. It's your contest and your partners.

Good luck down the road.

Originally posted by Walla Walla:

Greg, I'm not about to repeat 6 years of complaints. It's your contest and your partners.

Good luck down the road. But you felt it necessary to repeat your vague complaints on the message board. You had no point then.

390 guys in this- 5 guys that complain about stats. it is daily scoring- what is it to you people- crack cocaine. it corrects the next morning for crying out loud. i LOVED when we did fantasy football by hand. it is .05 off- are you kidding me?

Even Helen Keller would be able to see the improvements over the past 6 years. Of course it's not perfect yet, but it's very good, and it's been getting incrementally better.



Don't lose any sleep over serial complainers, Greg. Some people will always find perceived faults, and trying to please them is useless.

MDC could do a better job of getting better player list. They add new players as the come along, but they don't seemed to remove players who don't play any more.

Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

MDC could do a better job of getting better player list. They add new players as the come along, but they don't seemed to remove players who don't play any more. I don't disagree Shawn, but that's not what John is complaining about with MDC. He just thinks it SUCKS to draft on. Again, we didn't have many other issues with that part of the site through 110+ online pay drafts, but your point is well taken. We use the MDC.com default list and one owner said they should use the NFBC ADP list instead, which is a good point.



I'm not worried about staying with MDC. I think they're solid, but John is free to his opinion on that matter.

Originally posted by Walla Walla:

Greg, I'm not about to repeat 6 years of complaints. It's your contest and your partners.

Good luck down the road. I don't blame you John. I feel bad that I've ruined your baseball enjoyment for six years. Heck, if I had known you were that mad at STATS I would have stopped you after four years.



List your STATS improvement needs here and maybe you'll save the life of a fellow NFBCer down the road. I'll gladly look at every terrible part of your list and send to STATS. Good luck the rest of the way and win so much you can retire happy.

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

quote:Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

MDC could do a better job of getting better player list. They add new players as the come along, but they don't seemed to remove players who don't play any more. I don't disagree Shawn, but that's not what John is complaining about with MDC. He just thinks it SUCKS to draft on. Again, we didn't have many other issues with that part of the site through 110+ online pay drafts, but your point is well taken. We use the MDC.com default list and one owner said they should use the NFBC ADP list instead, which is a good point.



I'm not worried about staying with MDC. I think they're solid, but John is free to his opinion on that matter. [/QUOTE]I don't have a problem with the site and I have no problem finding players. I think some players are caught off guard drafting. When that happens, the clock starts ticking and there is a chance they could get timed out. Is it MDC's fault or the operator? Also if someone computer freezes up, it isn't MDC's fault.

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:



One owner out of 600 had autodraft on when his first round pick came up and we went BEYOND the call of duty to rectify that first round. John, you and 11 other owners know that. So please don't blame MDC for anything that happened to you there.

He was not on autodraft and get this, his first pick is Santana. The rest of us pick all the way until its almost his 2nd pick and only then does he complain about his so called computer problems. After he cries "refund", they roll the draft all the way back and he switches his pick from Santana to Cabrera (over many objections and a long delay)- We finally make it back to him and guess what? He takes Santana. IMHO, he got to see whether Johan would go before his 2nd pick and after he determined he would still be there, he cried "foul."



Walla then proceeded to take pitchers with his next 5 picks.

Originally posted by Dub:

quote:Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:



One owner out of 600 had autodraft on when his first round pick came up and we went BEYOND the call of duty to rectify that first round. John, you and 11 other owners know that. So please don't blame MDC for anything that happened to you there.

He was not on autodraft and get this, his first pick is Santana. The rest of us pick all the way until its almost his 2nd pick and only then does he complain about his so called computer problems. After he cries "refund", they roll the draft all the way back and he switches his pick from Santana to Cabrera (over many objections and a long delay)- We finally make it back to him and guess what? He takes Santana. IMHO, he got to see whether Johan would go before his 2nd pick and after he determined he would still be there, he cried "foul."



Walla then proceeded to take pitchers with his next 5 picks. [/QUOTE]That is unbelievable. I'm glad I gave him his bottle.

MDC gives you the option to create your own list. Yes it is time consuming to put it together, but it can be done.



Anyone who doesn't take advantage of this option gets stuck with the default list. Load your own list and you can cycle back and forth.



The biggest issue I saw was guys timing out and having the top player in their list get drafted.This happens all the time in mocks. Happend to me in one SAT league and I drafted Troy Glaus late enough that it didn't bother me too much.



Being able to draft effectively online is it's own unique challenge - some do it better than others.



It is tough to use lists or draft software-which some drafters rely on. Online you better be able to go on feel when necessary because that clock can seem to go pretty darn fast.



The only thing I would like to see would be a lite version of their draft room that would work on my Blackberry. Would be a huge plus for slow drafts.



[ April 30, 2009, 06:33 PM: Message edited by: Ryan Carey ]

Originally posted by Dub:

quote:Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:



One owner out of 600 had autodraft on when his first round pick came up and we went BEYOND the call of duty to rectify that first round. John, you and 11 other owners know that. So please don't blame MDC for anything that happened to you there.

He was not on autodraft and get this, his first pick is Santana. The rest of us pick all the way until its almost his 2nd pick and only then does he complain about his so called computer problems. After he cries "refund", they roll the draft all the way back and he switches his pick from Santana to Cabrera (over many objections and a long delay)- We finally make it back to him and guess what? He takes Santana. IMHO, he got to see whether Johan would go before his 2nd pick and after he determined he would still be there, he cried "foul."



Walla then proceeded to take pitchers with his next 5 picks. [/QUOTE]What are you talking about here..."he got to see whether Johan would go before his 2nd pick..."



How's that, if he was already rostered? How could ANYONE pick Santana if he was rostered?



How can you "complain in the chat box" if you are not able to log in? I may not see the whole story here. How do you know he was not on autodraft? Santana was ranked very high by default. Which pick was he? How many picks are you complaining took place before the rollback?



Good for MDC to roll it back. Online drafts are tricky.



[ April 30, 2009, 06:41 PM: Message edited by: sportsbettingman ]

Originally posted by Ryan Carey:

MDC gives you the option to create your own list. Yes it is time consuming to put it together, but it can be done.



Anyone who doesn't take advantage of this option gets stuck with the default list. Load your own list and you can cycle back and forth.



The biggest issue I saw was guys timing out and having the top player in their list get drafted.This happens all the time in mocks. Happend to me in one SAT league and I drafted Troy Glaus late enough that it didn't bother me too much.



Being able to draft effectively online is it's own unique challenge - some do it better than others.



It is tough to use lists or draft software-which some drafters rely on. Online you better be able to go on feel when necessary because that clock can seem to go pretty darn fast.



The only thing I would like to see would be a lite version of their draft room that would work on my Blackberry. Would be a huge plus for slow drafts. The create your own list isn't very user friendly. I think I tried to use it this year, but it only let me rank the overall players. It would be a lot easier if you could just rank the players by position.



I personally don't ever look at the player list. I have my own sheet to cross off names. When it is my turn, I just search by name. Time is never an issue.



I also think the MDC is caddy sometimes for some players. If they were in a live event, a player's name isn't going to be on the scroll list. With MDC, they can be scrolling for a name and find a player they weren't even thinking about.

It sure is a good thing that nobody is spoiled here in the 21st century :rolleyes:



Good thing fantasy baseball wasn't evented in the 20th century before high speed internet and live scoring...oh wait.

I think MDC could do a much better job with the players listed.I dont undrstand why they have retired players or triple a players in front of good players.Choo was not high on the list and i missed him.Carmona was at the bottom of the list.

IF your a little slow with the computer you can have promblems finding your players.David Deterra had a hell of a time in the 500 dollar draft champions and had to stop the draft 4 times and finally just gave up after 26 rounds.I actually felt bad for him ,he didnt know how to use the scroll down feature and that was what killed him.Say looking for Sabbathia it would take him 50 seconds just to get to the S's.Ive had promblems but after doing so many you learn.But like i said thay could do a much better job listing the top players especially for new players or guys who arent computer savy like myself.

Sure, the player list on MDC could be improved, but overall I think they do a fantastic job.

One more thing. If you aren't comfortable on computers than maybe an online draft is not for you. Just saying.

One more thing. If you aren't comfortable on computers than maybe an online draft is not for you. Just saying.

Nothing beat's a live draft ,im just sayin some people have promblems on line in this case David will never do an on line again.If it was easier to find players maybe that would help.

How's that, if he was already rostered? Santana was not rostered our second time through- the draft was rolled back, remember.



How could ANYONE pick Santana if he was rostered? see above



How can you "complain in the chat box" if you are not able to log in? He complained during the second round when he says he was able to get back on.



I may not see the whole story here. How do you know he was not on autodraft? Autodraft picks in 10 seconds- the full 1:30 was taken and you could see that he was still logged on.



Santana was ranked very high by default. Which pick was he? Walla picked 1-6 and then 2-7 - he took him 1st and then 2nd (after the roll back)



How many picks are you complaining took place before the rollback? I am not complaining- I picked 5th and the roll back did not affect me. I am just reporting the facts.



Good for MDC to roll it back.- It was the only solution because Walla would have dropped out and we would have had to re-schedule and find a 12th. It would have been a bigger disaster.



Online drafts are tricky. -PALEEEEZE

Originally posted by eddiejag:

I think MDC could do a much better job with the players listed.I dont undrstand why they have retired players or triple a players in front of good players.Choo was not high on the list and i missed him.Carmona was at the bottom of the list.

IF your a little slow with the computer you can have promblems finding your players.David Deterra had a hell of a time in the 500 dollar draft champions and had to stop the draft 4 times and finally just gave up after 26 rounds.I actually felt bad for him ,he didnt know how to use the scroll down feature and that was what killed him.Say looking for Sabbathia it would take him 50 seconds just to get to the S's.Ive had promblems but after doing so many you learn.But like i said thay could do a much better job listing the top players especially for new players or guys who arent computer savy like myself. In this day and age should we feel sorry for someone who does not know how to dial a phone? Turn on a TV? Come on- if you can't use a scroll bar- you are not going to win anyway- save your money.



[ April 30, 2009, 08:45 PM: Message edited by: Dub ]

NO he isnt going to win,wait a minute he's won a main and a ultimate.It wasnt just the scroll it was a bunch of little things he had promblems with.Still he was so pissed off he just quit in the 26th round.All auto picks and 500 hundred down the drain.Dont worry he wont donate again.



[ April 30, 2009, 09:06 PM: Message edited by: eddiejag ]