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Jered Weaver



75.2 IP:

2.26 ERA, 1.00 WHIP, 5 wins, 63 Ks



It's been a couple of months so I'm trying to think back to March 21st, but I'm remembering an ADP somewhere around the 14th-15th round.



Kelvim Escobar



The last minor league start doesn't worry me and he appears fully healthy. He could be a nice reward for those owners who held onto him since March or picked him up in FAAB.

I will add two more:



Wandy Rodriguez



67.2 IP, 2.261 ERA, 5 Wins, 1.227 WHIP, 62 K's on 21 BB.



Jeremy Bonderman



In his last Toledo start, he allowed three runs, two earned, on seven hits, walked three and struck out four in six innings last time out with 60 of 97 pitches for strikes. Jim Leyland called the start "so-so". I wonder how he would grade Galarraga and Willis?



[ June 04, 2009, 06:10 AM: Message edited by: Edwards Kings ]

underappreciated???????????



escobar and bonderman haven't even pitched this year!!! how can they be underappreciated????



and anyone thinking bonderman is part of the cavalry, better check his lifetime stats. never had a season with an NFBC team "helping" whip.

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

underappreciated???????????



escobar and bonderman haven't even pitched this year!!! how can they be underappreciated????



and anyone thinking bonderman is part of the cavalry, better check his lifetime stats. never had a season with an NFBC team "helping" whip. But Bonderman did have a great 1/2 a season (I will say top 5 first half - 2007?) and that is what you are bidding for this time.



Bid early, bid often.

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

underappreciated???????????



escobar and bonderman haven't even pitched this year!!! how can they be underappreciated????



and anyone thinking bonderman is part of the cavalry, better check his lifetime stats. never had a season with an NFBC team "helping" whip. Not to argue with the self proclaimed "greatest fantasy baseball player in the world" ( ), but nobody said "calvary". The topic was underappreciated.



Do I think he can help a NFBC roster? Yes, much better than some 20-22 year old "can't miss" prospect, like say Scherzer. Bonderman has been around forever but will not turn 27 until October. He will throw strike-outs in anywhere from 75% to 85% of his IP. Not counting the 2008 injury year, his K to BB ratio is around 3:1. He was rushed early in his career and played on some pretty bad defensive teams, but still won 14 games twice. He is not perfect, but I got to tell you his underlying stats (other than HR rate) have allways been better than average to good.



But that is just my opinion.



Listened to part of the blog by the way and enjoyed it. As soon as you show the same confidence in your voice (not shock jock, but just confident) that you show in your writing, you can take it up a notch. Good luck with the pending new arrival. Just keep saying "yes dear" and get all the sleep you can right now!

Originally posted by Edwards Kings:

Listened to part of the blog by the way and enjoyed it. As soon as you show the same confidence in your voice (not shock jock, but just confident) that you show in your writing, you can take it up a notch. Good luck with the pending new arrival. Just keep saying "yes dear" and get all the sleep you can right now! thanks for the feedback and wellwish. i'm ready to roll next show. being a "host" definately puts a different kind of spin on it. once i start taking callers and their questions, you will see more fire!



did you listen to the player opinions part. i laid out my case for some players with good info that listeners need to pick up on and use. and, i thought calling out berry in my first show was a lot of fire.

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by Edwards Kings:

Listened to part of the blog by the way and enjoyed it. As soon as you show the same confidence in your voice (not shock jock, but just confident) that you show in your writing, you can take it up a notch. Good luck with the pending new arrival. Just keep saying "yes dear" and get all the sleep you can right now! thanks for the feedback and wellwish. i'm ready to roll next show. being a "host" definately puts a different kind of spin on it. once i start taking callers and their questions, you will see more fire!



did you listen to the player opinions part. i laid out my case for some players with good info that listeners need to pick up on and use. and, i thought calling out berry in my first show was a lot of fire. [/QUOTE]You have all the capability of being a Jim Rome - love him/hate him.

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

quote:Originally posted by Edwards Kings:

Listened to part of the blog by the way and enjoyed it. As soon as you show the same confidence in your voice (not shock jock, but just confident) that you show in your writing, you can take it up a notch. Good luck with the pending new arrival. Just keep saying "yes dear" and get all the sleep you can right now! thanks for the feedback and wellwish. i'm ready to roll next show. being a "host" definately puts a different kind of spin on it. once i start taking callers and their questions, you will see more fire!



did you listen to the player opinions part. i laid out my case for some players with good info that listeners need to pick up on and use. and, i thought calling out berry in my first show was a lot of fire. [/QUOTE]I think you brought some game definitely. Some of the Yahoo-lies will be scratching their collective heads, but the NFBC'ers should really enjoy.

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko II:

underappreciated???????????



escobar and bonderman haven't even pitched this year!!! how can they be underappreciated????



and anyone thinking bonderman is part of the cavalry, better check his lifetime stats. never had a season with an NFBC team "helping" whip. They haven't pitched in the MAJORS but they have been pitching. Smoltz, T Hanson, and Escobar all have yet to throw a big league pitch this season. I think of the 3, owners would rank Escobar third among who will produce the best from the middle of June to the end of the year. I think he's underappreciated or underrated - choose your wording in that he'll produce better than what the status quo thinks (or what I think the status quo thinks).

I'd rank em: Escobar, Smoltz, Hanson... for the record, I think Smoltz and Hanson will be valuable pitchers the rest of the season.

I will add two more:



Wandy Rodriguez



67.2 IP, 2.261 ERA, 5 Wins, 1.227 WHIP, 62 K's on 21 BB.I'm as big a Wandy fan as anyone (drafted him in the 13th round this year as my #4 SP) but he took a his third straight beating from a below-average offense tonight, giving up 4 HR in 5 IP to the Rockies after allowing only one HR all season long.



Never known for his durability (career high 182.2 IP), this brutal stretch began after he threw 116, 113 and 110 pitches in his past three starts, the most he's ever thrown in a three-start stretch in his career.



However, even after this bad start his overall numbers are still excellent (2.97 ERA, 3-1 K/BB with 8.5 K/9, strong GO/AO ratio), and coming into this start his xERA was 3.98, so do we just call this a "correction" along the way? Or is this the start of a smallish pitcher melting down from overwork?



Has anyone seen him pitch during this stretch and have any thoughts to add?

Originally posted by Fudd:

quote:Originally posted by Schwartzstops:

quote:I will add two more:



Wandy Rodriguez



67.2 IP, 2.261 ERA, 5 Wins, 1.227 WHIP, 62 K's on 21 BB.I'm as big a Wandy fan as anyone (drafted him in the 13th round this year as my #4 SP) but he took a his third straight beating from a below-average offense tonight, giving up 4 HR in 5 IP to the Rockies after allowing only one HR all season long.



Never known for his durability (career high 182.2 IP), this brutal stretch began after he threw 116, 113 and 110 pitches in his past three starts, the most he's ever thrown in a three-start stretch in his career.



However, even after this bad start his overall numbers are still excellent (2.97 ERA, 3-1 K/BB with 8.5 K/9, strong GO/AO ratio), and coming into this start his xERA was 3.98, so do we just call this a "correction" along the way? Or is this the start of a smallish pitcher melting down from overwork?



Has anyone seen him pitch during this stretch and have any thoughts to add? [/QUOTE]From what I can tell on the tube, he's got a different look in his face. One that looks like a guy that is about to get worked. His first meltdown you speak of, there was a questionable call that made all 6 runs unearned, but that kicked off the merry go round and would have had his ERA around 4 where it belongs at best anyway. His velocity seemed the same from what I can tell, but the look on his face might tell otherwise, I don't know? Maybe his arm is barking? I have to ride the dirty bum all year at this point and hope he doesn't Wang me before the DL stint. Still 3 horrible starts in a row, he's only a few more poundings away from being Bronson Arroyo or the aforementioned Wang. [/QUOTE]Wayne put an inadvertent hex on Wandy. Not seeing him pitch and only seeing the pitching lines, definitely looks like a pitcher who all of a sudden has a "dead" arm or is pitching through pain.



It was nice for Escobar owners to see him exit Saturday's game with the Tigers in full health. Although the control was spotty (4 walks), I read that his fastball was 94-96 (not sure about his off speed pitches). I don't want to hex another pitcher, but I expect better results in his second start. The first-start jitters are behind him, he's pitching at home, and will face weaker bats (padres).