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NFBC Champions Mock Draft Results
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 11:24 am
by Greg Ambrosius
We are hosting our NFBC Champions Mock Draft tonight on Mock Draft Central.com, featuring all 13 NFBC league champions from 2004, our three auction league champions (two won both) and the next highest point finisher. Those 15 guys are mock drafting right now, but I thought it would be fun to provide the first couple rounds of results to everyone. The complete draft will be published in the first issue of Fantasy Sports Magazine and we'll send the final results privately to all 2004 and 2005 NFBC members via e-mail.
Let's just say these guys were ready as the first round was finished in 8 minutes and the first two rounds in 14 minutes. Let's get to the results:
First Round:
Player (Owner)
1. Albert Pujols (Dave Cushard)
2. Carlos Beltran (Emmett Ruland)
3. Alex Rodriguez (Ari Benjamin)
4. Vladimir Guerrero (Eddie Gillis)
5. Miguel Tejada (Eric Peden)
6. Todd Helton (Clark Olson)
7. Alfonso Soriano (Karl Mische)
8. Carl Crawford (Shawn Childs)
9. Bobby Abreu (Artie Rastelli)
10. Manny Ramirez (Terry Haney)
11. Randy Johnson (Aaron Seefeldt)
12. Johan Santana (Stanley Kaye)
13. Scott Rolen (Jeff Thomas)
14. Ichiro Suzuki (Joe Thelan)
15. Barry Bonds (Stephen Jupinka)
NFBC Champions Mock Draft Results
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 11:49 am
by Greg Ambrosius
Round 2:
Reverse Order:
16. David Ortiz
17. Pedro Martinez
18. Edgar Renteria
19. Adrian Beltre
20. Derek Jeter
21. Gary Sheffield
22. Aramis Ramirez
23. Eric Gagne
24. Jim Thome
25. Jason Schmidt
26. Mark Prior
27. Mark Teixeira
28. Juan Pierre
29. Nomar Garciaparra
30. Curt Schilling
NFBC Champions Mock Draft Results
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 12:28 pm
by Plymouth
David Ortiz as the first pick in round 2 takes me a bit by surprise. I see no real shockers in round 1.
NFBC Champions Mock Draft Results
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 12:30 pm
by Greg Ambrosius
How about the results from the third round while we're having fun with this:
31. Miguel Cabrera
32. Tim Hudson
33. Jimmy Rollins
34. Carlos Delgado
35. Jim Edmonds
36. Ben Sheets
37. Marcus Giles
38. Jeff Kent
39. Eric Chavez
40. Richie Sexson
41. Melvin Mora
42. Michael Young
43. Scott Podsednik
44. Aubrey Huff
45. Hank Blalock
NFBC Champions Mock Draft Results
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 12:45 pm
by Greg Ambrosius
Here's the fourth round:
46. Adam Dunn
47. Derrek Lee
48. Brad Lidge
49. Victor Martinez
50. Mariano Rivera
51. Octavio Dotel
52. Vernon Wells
53. Sean Casey
54. Jorge Posada
55. Javy Lopez
56. Billy Wagner
57. Roy Oswalt
58. Kerry Wood
59. Bret Boone
60. Ivan Rodriguez
And the fifth round:
61. Keith Foulke
62. Rafael Furcal
63. Francisco Rodriguez
64. David Wright
65. Luis Castillo
66. Hideki Matsui
67. Joe Nathan
68. Orlando Cabrera
69. Carlos Guillen
70. Armando Benitez
71. Jose Reyes
72. Francisco Cordero
73. Mike Mussina
74. Mike Piazza
75. Oliver Perez
NFBC Champions Mock Draft Results
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 1:53 pm
by Greg Ambrosius
Let's keep it going with the sixth round results:
76. Jake Peavy
77. Brian Roberts
78. Magglio Ordonez
79. Carlos Lee
80. Jason Isringhausen
81. Corey Patterson
82. Jason Bay
83. Edgardo Alfonzo
84. Chipper Jones
85. Trevor Hoffman
86. Shawn Green
87. Carlos Zambrano
88. Johnny Damon
89. Josh Beckett
90. Roger Clemens
NFBC Champions Mock Draft Results
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 2:35 pm
by Greg Ambrosius
We'll round out the Top 100 for tonight with the seventh round picks:
91. Justin Morneau
92. Mike Lowell
93. Jason Varitek
94. Chone Figgins
95. Sammy Sosa
96. J.D. Drew
97. Mark Mulder
98. Paul Konerko
99. Rich Harden
100. John Smoltz
101. Travis Hafner
102. Danny Kolb
103. Carl Pavano
104. Brian Giles
105. Mark Loretta
NFBC Champions Mock Draft Results
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 2:47 pm
by Greg Ambrosius
The Champions Mock Draft ended in about 3 1/2 hours, which is amazing for 23 rounds. Great job guys. I'd be interested to hear from anyone who participated to see how you felt it went and if you learned anything. Should be a fun year and this was a GREAT kickoff event. Results will be sent out to all NFBC members within the next week.
NFBC Champions Mock Draft Results
Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 12:31 pm
by Plymouth
Oh Sammy! How far you have fallen!
NFBC Champions Mock Draft Results
Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 12:45 pm
by Nevadaman
True, but how could Oswalt slip to 57? I sure hope that happens in my draft! Piazza, the most overrated pig in MLB, is a case where certain people refuse to believe that he totally sucks now, despite 5 straight years of serious decline. He would be questionable at 174, much less 74, IMHO!
NFBC Champions Mock Draft Results
Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 2:25 pm
by Walla Walla
I think everyone did a good job. I know its not easy doing a mock draft this early and having every yahoo pick on it. Of course this is from the guy who picked Ricky Williams in the football mock draft. As far as Piazza I wouldn't call him a pig. Over rated maybe. You'd be hard press to find many catchers who've put up his stats over the years.
NFBC Champions Mock Draft Results
Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 4:11 pm
by alexado
I agree with Walla Walla about Piazza. Sure he's slipped but he's still the 3rd or 4th best fantasy player for his position.
NFBC Champions Mock Draft Results
Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 5:01 pm
by Nevadaman
I won't argue the point. Suffice it to say, I hope everyone else shares your opinion!
NFBC Champions Mock Draft Results
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 3:50 am
by Edwards Kings
Brad Lidge picked before Mariano? I agree but it surprises me a bit, even if Mariano was the third closer taken. Passing of a torch in closer-land maybe?
NFBC Champions Mock Draft Results
Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 8:22 am
by Gordon Gekko
Greg,
It's obvious some of the mockers had questionable picks at best. I believe they did so just to "throw off" anyone trying to use the mock draft to help slot players. Sort of turns the mock into a mockery. Going forward I suggest you have a prize for the best mocker. Run the stats at the end and see who the best is...give em 1 or 2K. do something similar for football. shame on some of the mockers. thanks.
NFBC Champions Mock Draft Results
Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 9:51 am
by viper
I have seen two mock drafts so far and in both Carl Crawford was drafted in the first round. I understand the power of cheese , er, steals but I do find how Carl has jumped into the first round as one of the more interesting aspects of both drafts.
NFBC Champions Mock Draft Results
Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 10:30 am
by ToddZ
Strictly in terms of raw value, if you believe Crawford will repeat or better his 2004 numbers, he is worthy of a late first round selection--steals are "worth" that much in terms of raw value.
That said, there are at least three reasons why I would personally pass on him in Round 1, even if he was the highest "valued" player on my board.
1. Steals are a volatile lot (ask Juan Pierre owners). I'm going to project him for at least 45, but will not have the warm and fuzzies when doing so.
2. The 2004 NFBC champions fared the worse in the SB category than the other four hitting categories. You don't need to dominate SBs to win.
3. Other than Crawford, I suspect every other SB guy will go "undervalue" (Podsednik, Pierre, etc). I'd rather get the power guy in round 1 and pick up steals later.
[ December 31, 2004, 04:33 PM: Message edited by: ToddZ ]
NFBC Champions Mock Draft Results
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 6:46 am
by eddiejag
I HEARD GORDON MENTION SOME OF THE MOCKERS MIGHT HAVE MADE A MOCKERY OF THE DRAFT. I HAD THE 4TH PICK , AND MADE EVERY PICK LIKE I WAS PLAYING FOR 100.000 DOLLARS. WE HAD TO RATE THE DRAFT AFTER IT WAS OVER AND I DID HAVE 2 TEAMS I WOULD RATE WITH NOT MUCH OF A CHANCE. I MYSELF WOULD BE VERY UPSET IF I KNEW ANY OF THE TEAMS DIDNT GIVE THEIR BEST.IF THAT DID HAPPEN , THEN SHAME ON YOU. I DID GIVE IT MY ALL , AND THINK MY TEAM IS ONE OF THE BETTEWR TEAMS. MY TOP 3 PICKS SHOLD GO FOR 40 HR'S, AND WAS FORTUNATE TO GET OSWALT WITH PICK 57. DAVID WRIGHT AND CHASE UTTLEY ARE TWO YOUNG PLAYERS WITH GREAT UPSIDE. JUSTIN SPEIR I TOOK HOPING HE CAN GET THE CLOSER JOB IN TOROTO.A GOOD GAMBLE CONSIDERING I GOT HIM IN ROUND 21.
NFBC Champions Mock Draft Results
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 6:56 am
by Walla Walla
I think the early numbers were based on the Ron Shandler's Forecaster. Being this was a early Mock draft its really hard to put much into it.
Alot will happen before March. I agree with Todd Zola in that I think Crawford is being overrated based on S.B. alone.
NFBC Champions Mock Draft Results
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 6:56 am
by Walla Walla
I think the early numbers were based on the Ron Shandler's Forecaster. Being this was a early Mock draft its really hard to put much into it.
Alot will happen before March. I agree with Todd Zola in that I think Crawford is being overrated based on S.B. alone.
NFBC Champions Mock Draft Results
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 7:14 am
by eddiejag
AS FOR CRAWFORD HE IS A FIRST ROUND PICK NOW IN ANY LEAGUE. I MYSELF WOULD HAVE HIM AT PICK 8.HIS LAST TWO YEARS SHOW HOW CONSISTENT HE IS.2003 281 BAVG 5 HR 54 RBI AND 55 STEALS. 2004 296 BAVG 11 HR 59 RBI 59 STEALS . IT ALSO SHOWS ME HE DOUBLED HIS HR'S ,MAYBE 15 THIS YEAR AND THE STEALS SHOULD STAY IN THE FIFTY'S. HE'S ONLY 23 AND HASNT HIT HIS PRIME. AS FOR PIERRE HE STILL STOLE 45 BASES SCORED 100 RUNS AND HIT 326. I GOT PIERRE IN THE 3RD ROUND LAST YEAR , AND WAS VERY HAPPY.
NFBC Champions Mock Draft Results
Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 2:18 pm
by CC's Desperados
Will Carl Crawford have a career similar to Kenny Lofton or does he approach Ricky Henderson?
NFBC Champions Mock Draft Results
Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 2:54 pm
by Gordon Gekko
Originally posted by CC Desperatos:
Will Carl Crawford have a career similar to Kenny Lofton or does he approach Ricky Henderson? i have crawford penciled in for 104 steals this year, along with 18 homeruns. should be the top pick in every draft. take him early or else he he won't be there late. thanks.
NFBC Champions Mock Draft Results
Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 4:36 pm
by ToddZ
Will Carl Crawford have a career similar to Kenny Lofton or does he approach Ricky Henderson? I don't like making comparisons like this because you are never really sure just what skills are being compared. In terms of skills, Crawford might not walk as many times in his career as Ricky did in one season. Obviously that's hyperbole, but Crawford will not come close to his patience.
Strictly in terms of numbers, he won't hit for as high an average as Lofton did in his prime, but he still hit well above league average. But I think he'll have more pop than Lofton did in his prime as he continues to mature.
[ January 02, 2005, 10:37 PM: Message edited by: ToddZ ]
NFBC Champions Mock Draft Results
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 11:45 am
by Dyv
I mocked from the #1 hole and was very pleased with my draft. Pujols at #1 wasn't a choice of comfort, but I'm making the prediction that power will be down heavily this year and Pujols appears to be one of very few non-steroid sluggers.
That and your new position scarcity law for 2005 will be firstbase... (my opinion)
As for Oswalt slipping and closers moving... pitching is always the more speculative arena. I'm not surprised by this at all. I wish he would have fallen a few more spots to me at #60, but only so much I can control
I didn't realize we weren't drafting benches in this draft, so closing out some positions early cost me later for sleepers I wanted.
Clearly I needed some more OF bench help and a backup C and middle infielder
C1: Pudge
C2: Humberto Cota
1b: Pujols
2b: D'Angelo Jimenez
SS: B.J. Upton
3b: Aaron Boone
OF1: Miguel Cabrera
OF2: Griffey Jr.
OF3: Larry Walker
OF4: Alex Sanchez
OF5: Rondell White
1b/3b: Justin Morneau
2b/ss: Mark Ellis
DH: Ken Harvey
SP: Schilling, Clemens, Matt Clement, Kevin Brown, Al Leiter, Scott Kazmir, Glendon Rusch
RP: Keith Foulke, Rob Nen