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double play/cost questions

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 4:33 am
by bjoak
Greg,



Sorry if you addressed this elsewhere. I just found the new url for the message boards (the old one still says the boards are temporarily closed).



Please don't take these questions as criticisms. You said elsewhere that the consumer is king and that's all good so I'm not complaining--just looking for clarification.



According to the new site, the on-line championship costs $500 and according to the prize structure, it would offer a 56% payback rate (assuming that, as written, the live double play doesn't feed off it's prize pool, in which case it would be even less). It would take in $360,000 while paying back $203,100 by my quick math.



Meanwhile, the live double-play offers back 68.5%. ($150,000 to $102,750)



I guess my question is, is this all correct? Also, is there a prize for winning both the main and on-line and/or live double play, like Lindy's $75,000 last year?



On a different topic, I see that the events fee is now $100. Does that include all events or is it per event. I'm not sure that is clearly spelled out. Also, when it says buffet + bar, does that mean a full open bar paid for by our fees for the 12-4 hours. Could be trouble for Lance if he is planning to draft afterward. :D



[ December 11, 2009, 01:23 PM: Message edited by: bjoak ]

double play/cost questions

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 5:15 am
by JamesH
Also please clarify the following:



Double Play $500

Partner Fee: $50

Event Fee: $100

Total $650



Is all this correct? $100 as an event fee seems high for a $500 game. Is this fee only charged one time for all events entered or is the fee charged for each event?

double play/cost questions

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 7:33 am
by Greg Ambrosius
Originally posted by Beezman:

Also please clarify the following:



Double Play $500

Partner Fee: $50

Event Fee: $100

Total $650



Is all this correct? $100 as an event fee seems high for a $500 game. Is this fee only charged one time for all events entered or is the fee charged for each event?
No, this is not correct. There is no Events Fee anywhere for the NFBC Online Championship and there is a $25 Events Fee for the NFBC Double Play at the Bellagio, Citi Field and Cubby Bear Wrigleyville. I will correct this now on the Registration page.



So this entry if you bring a co-manager would be $500 + $25 + $50.

double play/cost questions

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 7:37 am
by Greg Ambrosius
Originally posted by bjoak:

Greg,



Sorry if you addressed this elsewhere. I just found the new url for the message boards (the old one still says the boards are temporarily closed).



Please don't take these questions as criticisms. You said elsewhere that the consumer is king and that's all good so I'm not complaining--just looking for clarification.



According to the new site, the on-line championship costs $500 and according to the prize structure, it would offer a 56% payback rate (assuming that, as written, the live double play doesn't feed off it's prize pool, in which case it would be even less). It would take in $360,000 while paying back $203,100 by my quick math.



Meanwhile, the live double-play offers back 68.5%. ($150,000 to $102,750)



I guess my question is, is this all correct? Also, is there a prize for winning both the main and on-line and/or live double play, like Lindy's $75,000 last year?



On a different topic, I see that the events fee is now $100. Does that include all events or is it per event. I'm not sure that is clearly spelled out. Also, when it says buffet + bar, does that mean a full open bar paid for by our fees for the 12-4 hours. Could be trouble for Lance if he is planning to draft afterward. :D I was just going to start a Double Play thread to explain what that is. You beat me to the punch, but I don't think your math is exactly right. I'll start a new thread and explain there.



As for the Events Fee, I just mentioned it above but we may have it wrong in some places:



Main Event:

No Events Fee at the Flamingo, Bally's or St. Louis



$100 Events Fee at Bellagio & Citi Field

$50 Events Fee at Cubby Bear Wrigleyville



NFBC Auction Championship:

No Events Fee anywhere



NFBC Double Play:

No Events Fee at the Flamingo, Bally's or St. Louis



$25 Events Fee at Bellagio & Citi Field



We are also offering an MVP special where there is no Events Fee or co-manager fee for the first 50 owners who take the three-pack on any weekend. So if the Events Fees sound too much and you want to do all three events with us, all you have to do is sign up early and we'll take care of you. Look for that package soon.



Hope this helps for now.

double play/cost questions

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:31 am
by Dak
What kind of fees for the phone leagues? Or have I missed it in all the confusion?



BTW, if I were a "newbie" checking all this out........I would not know what game to play, what it would cost, or where to go. IMHO. :confused:

double play/cost questions

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 9:16 am
by Greg Ambrosius
Originally posted by Dak:

What kind of fees for the phone leagues? Or have I missed it in all the confusion?



BTW, if I were a "newbie" checking all this out........I would not know what game to play, what it would cost, or where to go. IMHO. :confused: We have not posted anything yet about offering an online option for the main event. We will not combine that option into Phone/Online this year as the phone is just too expensive and too much of a hassle, but we are currently discussing an online option only for the second weekend for those who can't travel and will define what that Events Fee will be going forward. Again, we are pushing the live events but will take care of those who just can't make it to the live drafts if it's needed. Stay tuned.



If I were a newbie and wanted to know about any event, I'd click on the box that lists that event. The Rules links should be updated soon, the times are all there and the prizes and payouts are better organized than we ever had before. There's a lot here, but they should click on the price level they want and go from there.