couple of suggestions

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 5:58 am

Greg,

Couple of suggestions-

1) How about the 4th city in 2006 be Tampa or Orlando- would anyone else be up for catching some spring training games that week also, plus Tampa is a pretty good town to find some trouble ask Darryl Strawberry.

2) What is the thought process behind not putting an innings limit or games started limit on the game. My personal opinion is the more realistic the better and streaming starters never shows me much in knowledge.

3) Why doesn't everyone ignore this Gekko guy, everyone else on here seems to be articulate and helpful, him being the one exception.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 7:16 am

1) We are looking into Tampa right now for 2006 as there are plenty of great spring training sites within a close distance and the Yankees train there. The key is finding a good hotel to work with and I'm looking for that now. Orlando would be ideal, but finding the right hotel in March is tougher.

2) The thinking was that with a 5x5 setup there was no need for minimum innings pitched. Some people have suggested that a winning strategy is going with all relievers, but with wins and strikeouts being two of the categories that could be a tough winning formula. We'll see. It leaves the format open to several strategies and until we are proven that a minimum innings pitched requirement is necessary, we'll go with this format.

3) Gordon is harmless. He hasn't won anything in baseball, so he's free to talk the smack, but he needs to walk the walk soon!

He was our $100,000 champion in football, though, so he gets his props there. Enjoy the comraderie on the boards and participate in the smack if you want to or just avoid it altogether, but basically everyone on these boards is harmless.

Leaderboard Sports · Post by **Leaderboard Sports** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 9:03 am

Greg,

Try the Swan and Dolphin Hotels at Epcot Center in Disney World. They were built for conventions and are not owned by Disney. Also the Disney owned Coronado Springs resort was built for conventions and room rates are less than we're paying at the Rio. There are also several large non Disney hotels located in Lake Buena Vista which is right next to Downtown Disney and Pleasure Island.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 9:24 am

Will do. I didn't realize the Swan and Dolphin weren't Disney properties. I'll look into all of it and try to combine some spring training games into those locations if I can work it out.

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 9:28 am

Greg,

Don't underestimate what types of hotels can accomodate a group of 150-200 people. Many hotels are now catering to regional type smaller trade shows and meetings.

Thanks for all of your hard work on everything.

My vote would definitely be Tampa- more teams in an easy driving distance and Mans Venus is worth the trip itself.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 9:44 am

Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

3) Why doesn't everyone ignore this Gekko guy, everyone else on here seems to be articulate and helpful, him being the one exception. abadabaabadabaabadabaabadaba....sorry, i'm having trouble...abadabaabadabaabadabaabadaba....articulating.

people can't ignore me cause they want to be near...abadabaabadabaabadabaabadaba...success. simple enough...abadabaabadabaabadabaabadaba....

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 10:09 am

Greg,

Any luck with the Raddison at the airport, that we talked about via email. Anybody heading to tampa for the spring it is the team hotel for the Yanks, reasonably priced, no stars will be there but Yogi, Reggie, Guidry, Goose, Ford, and Mattingly stay there every year, Big Stein owns the hotel.

hankstr · Post by **hankstr** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 10:32 am

Greg, if Tampa doesn't work out look into Raleigh. We get the Braves on t.v. Other than that we have a few softball leagues. I can set up some stack tables in my house. Seat's up on the toilet too.

Walla Walla · Post by **Walla Walla** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 12:55 pm

Chest, To answer your question "2) What is the thought process behind not putting an innings limit or games started limit on the game. My personal opinion is the more realistic the better and streaming starters never shows me much in knowledge."

The main reason theres not a games started limit is you can only change your lineup once a week. Add in the fact that you have to bid for free agents and the draft goes so deep that its not possible to stream pitchers in like some do in espn and yahoo head to head games.

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 2:28 pm

Yeah, I think Chest was suggesting a max pitching limit rather than a minimum, but it doesn't make sense for a weekly league and as I mentioned to the person who wanted daily transactions, you end up with all kinds of ridiculous problems like having to bench Halladay because he's too effecient (well, not last year).

BTW, I don't give a bean if Gekko won the football championship. All that means to me is that he spent all winter watching soccer gone wrong and an improperly shaped ball while I was studying VORP stats, and I'll stand a better chance come March.

[ February 01, 2005, 08:32 PM: Message edited by: bjoak ]

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 2:31 pm

That said, go Eagles!

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 2:53 pm

Originally posted by bjoak:

BTW, I don't give a bean if Gekko won the football championship.i don't want a bean. i'll take your loot though. thanks.

Originally posted by bjoak:

I was studying VORP stats, and I'll stand a better chance come March. Woolner vs Gekko. sorry Wool, you're fired.

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 3:13 pm

Nice work on the google search.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 3:17 pm

Originally posted by bjoak:

Nice work on the google search. about as nice as his #'s. it was yahoo btw

altenstadt · Post by **altenstadt** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 3:40 pm

Gordie has not had an original thought since he started posting on these boards over a year ago. He spews forth a lot of garbage but he still has not signed up to play in 2005. All talk and no action spells G-O-R-D-I-E G-E-K-K-O !

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 3:50 pm

Originally posted by altenstadt:

Gordie has not had an original thought since he started posting on these boards over a year ago. He spews forth a lot of garbage but he still has not signed up to play in 2005. All talk and no action spells G-O-R-D-I-E G-E-K-K-O ! Originally posted by altenstadt:

Gekko is just toying with you, ignore him and he will go away!

bjoak · Post by **bjoak** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 5:09 pm

Damn, you won all that money and you still didn't sign up yet?

Actually, I'm looking at my own version of VORP (as opposed to the BP version, though, by coincidence, I'm having dinner with James Click tomorrow night) that I developed to evaluate players as they apply to the NFBC, which, as most will agree, fball is a wholly different game than real ball, albeit the same players are involved. The year will be kind of an experiment for me.

I guess this post is kind of self-indulgent, though, so I'll shut up.

I will say that the most frustrating thing at this point is trying to decide what second baseman, third baseman, fifth starter, etc. specific clubs will go with. Worse, some teams may go with the dreaded platoon situation. Does anyone feel my pain?

[ February 01, 2005, 11:15 PM: Message edited by: bjoak ]

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 10:50 pm

Originally posted by bjoak:

Damn, you won all that money and you still didn't sign up yet? 1. I could be waiting until the end trying to firm up plans/resources

2. I could already be in the event...paid for by one of my backers

take your pick

Originally posted by bjoak:

Actually, I'm looking at my own version of VORP (as opposed to the BP version, though, by coincidence, I'm having dinner with James Click tomorrow night) that I developed to evaluate players as they apply to the NFBC, which, as most will agree, fball is a wholly different game than real ball, albeit the same players are involved. The year will be kind of an experiment for me. wow! guess you leave me in the dust? how can i compete?

Originally posted by bjoak:

I guess this post is kind of self-indulgent, though, so I'll shut up.you're posts are worse than mine on the self-indulgent scale!

Dyv · Post by **Dyv** » Wed Feb 02, 2005 3:35 am

Originally posted by bjoak:

Damn, you won all that money and you still didn't sign up yet?

Actually, I'm looking at my own version of VORP (as opposed to the BP version, though, by coincidence, I'm having dinner with James Click tomorrow night) that I developed to evaluate players as they apply to the NFBC, which, as most will agree, fball is a wholly different game than real ball, albeit the same players are involved. The year will be kind of an experiment for me.

I guess this post is kind of self-indulgent, though, so I'll shut up.

I will say that the most frustrating thing at this point is trying to decide what second baseman, third baseman, fifth starter, etc. specific clubs will go with. Worse, some teams may go with the dreaded platoon situation. Does anyone feel my pain? I definitely feel pain. You seem to feel you have mastered an imperfect science. Well done