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We just finished League 2 of the Online DP Draft. Pretty interesting. Shawn Childs picked from the 6 spot and the owner in the 7 spot took pitchers with each of the first 7 picks. That in itself basically changed the nature of the draft because it resulted in a pitcher run earlier than you would expect



I was 9:



C Hernandez, Ramon (22.4)

C Zaun Gregg (28.4)

1B Dunn, Adam (6.4)

3B Wright, David (2.4)

CI LaRoche,Adam (9.9)

2B Phillips, Brandon (3.9)

SS Aybar, Erick (16.4)

MI Kendrick, Howie (10.4)

O Crawford, Carl (1.9)

O Lind, Adam (4.4)

O Span, Denard(11.9)

O Kubel, Jason (14.4)

O Ludwick, Ryan (15.9)

U Willingham, Josh (19.9)

BN Prado, Martin (21.9)

BN LaPorta, Matt (26.4)

BN Desmond, Ian (30.4)



SP Santana, Johan (5.9)

SP Nolasco, Ricky (7.9)

SP Rodriguez, Wandy (8.4)

SP Webb, Brandon (12.4)

SP Slowey Kevin (17.9)

SP Bedard Erik (20 4)

SP Myers Brett (23.9)

RP Qualls, Chad (13.9)

RP Lindstrom,Matt (18.4)



BN Madson Ryan (24.4)

BN Kennedy Ian (25.9)

BN VandenHurk. Rick (27.9)

BN Howell J.P. (29.9)





As usual, things never go as planned. My catchers blow, but overall I'm pretty happy. A good mix of speed/average guys and power guys.



I was very surprised to see Phillips there at 33.



I panicked a bit on the Santana pick; 4 guys I had in the queue went with the 4 picks before.



Span, WIllingham, and Wandy were good value.



I don't like the Kubel pick at all.



I'm big fans of Kennedy and Vandenhurk, so I figured I could take a chance on Webb and, to a lesser extent, Bedard.

Originally posted by Hells Satans:

We just finished League 2 of the Online DP Draft. Pretty interesting. Shawn Childs picked from the 6 spot and the owner in the 7 spot took pitchers with each of the first 7 picks. That in itself basically changed the nature of the draft because it resulted in a pitcher run earlier than you would expect



I was 9:



C Hernandez, Ramon (22.4)

C Zaun Gregg (28.4)

1B Dunn, Adam (6.4)

3B Wright, David (2.4)

CI LaRoche,Adam (9.9)

2B Phillips, Brandon (3.9)

SS Aybar, Erick (16.4)

MI Kendrick, Howie (10.4)

O Crawford, Carl (1.9)

O Lind, Adam (4.4)

O Span, Denard(11.9)

O Kubel, Jason (14.4)

O Ludwick, Ryan (15.9)

U Willingham, Josh (19.9)

BN Prado, Martin (21.9)

BN LaPorta, Matt (26.4)

BN Desmond, Ian (30.4)



SP Santana, Johan (5.9)

SP Nolasco, Ricky (7.9)

SP Rodriguez, Wandy (8.4)

SP Webb, Brandon (12.4)

SP Slowey Kevin (17.9)

SP Bedard Erik (20 4)

SP Myers Brett (23.9)

RP Qualls, Chad (13.9)

RP Lindstrom,Matt (18.4)



BN Madson Ryan (24.4)

BN Kennedy Ian (25.9)

BN VandenHurk. Rick (27.9)

BN Howell J.P. (29.9)





As usual, things never go as planned. My catchers blow, but overall I'm pretty happy. A good mix of speed/average guys and power guys.



I was very surprised to see Phillips there at 33.



I panicked a bit on the Santana pick; 4 guys I had in the queue went with the 4 picks before.



Span, WIllingham, and Wandy were good value.



I don't like the Kubel pick at all.



I'm big fans of Kennedy and Vandenhurk, so I figured I could take a chance on Webb and, to a lesser extent, Bedard. Sounds like an interesting draft. Not a fan of taking Bedard, Webb, and Myers...too many question marks there for me. But like you said, you like Kennedy and Vandenhurk so if they come through and either Webb or Bedard does too, you're fine. Also, in a 12-team league, I like to see more than 1 closer that's locked into a job, although Lindstrom, Madson, and Howell you have some good speculative save opps there. The offense I think is servicable for a 12-team league. Good luck.

Also, I'd love see what the 7 pitcher team looks like.

Looks light on run production and BA. Starting staff will suffer with all of those injury risks and your pen is below average. A team so ugly only Satan could love.



On the bright side, tons of help available in the FA pool of those 12-teamers.

Originally posted by Paul Gromek:

Also, I'd love see what the 7 pitcher team looks like. Lincecum

Halladay

Hernandez

Verlander

Papelbon

Rivera

Vazquez

Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

quote:Originally posted by Paul Gromek:

Also, I'd love see what the 7 pitcher team looks like. Lincecum

Halladay

Hernandez

Verlander

Papelbon

Rivera

Vazquez [/QUOTE]I considered doing almost exactly this same thing...wonder how the rest of his team looks, and how he'll end up finishing. Failure = same old mantra of balance, winning could stir up the trends.

$5 says this guy has 2 or more double play teams and wants to try one with all pitching first to see if it works.

Same draft from the 8th spot



Final Roster

Pos Name Team Pick

C Victor Martinez BOS R3 P8 Comment

C Brian McCann ATL R5 P8 Comment

1B Justin Morneau MIN R4 P5 Comment

1B Jorge Cantu FLA R15 P8 Comment

1B James Loney LA R16 P5 Comment

SS Troy Tulowitzki COL R2 P5 Comment

SS Asdrubal Cabrera CLE R10 P5 Comment

SS Miguel Tejada BAL R12 P5 Comment

3B Troy Glaus ATL R25 P8 Comment

3B Casey McGehee MIL R30 P5 Comment

OF Matt Kemp LA R1 P8 Comment

OF Torii Hunter ANA R9 P8 Comment

OF Chris Coghlan FLA R20 P5 Comment

OF Drew Stubbs CIN R21 P8 Comment

OF Chris Young ARI R23 P8 Comment

OF Elijah Dukes WAS R27 P8 Comment

OF Coco Crisp OAK R28 P5 Comment

DH David Ortiz BOS R18 P5 Comment

SP Cliff Lee SEA R6 P5 Comment

SP Ubaldo Jimenez COL R7 P8 Comment

SP Matt Cain SF R8 P5 Comment

SP Ryan Dempster CHC R11 P8 Comment

SP Carlos Zambrano CHC R17 P8 Comment

SP Rick Porcello DET R19 P8 Comment

SP Hiroki Kuroda LA R22 P5 Comment

SP Ryan Rowland-Smith SEA R26 P5 Comment

SP Anibal Sanchez FLA R29 P8 Comment

RP Brian Fuentes ANA R13 P8 Comment

RP Ryan Franklin STL R14 P5 Comment

RP Kevin Gregg TOR R24 P5 Comment

Originally posted by sportsbettingman:

quote:Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

quote:Originally posted by Paul Gromek:

Also, I'd love see what the 7 pitcher team looks like. Lincecum

Halladay

Hernandez

Verlander

Papelbon

Rivera

Vazquez [/QUOTE]I considered doing almost exactly this same thing...wonder how the rest of his team looks, and how he'll end up finishing. Failure = same old mantra of balance, winning could stir up the trends. [/QUOTE]If he wins all the pitching points, he still doesn't finish with 90 total points.

Originally posted by ralfel:

Same draft from the 8th spot



Final Roster

Pos Name Team Pick

C Victor Martinez BOS R3 P8 Comment

C Brian McCann ATL R5 P8 Comment

Final Roster

Pos Name Team Pick

C Victor Martinez BOS R3 P8 Comment

C Brian McCann ATL R5 P8 Commen



2 top catchers - first time for everything

Originally posted by ralfel:

Final Roster

Pos Name Team Pick

C Victor Martinez BOS R3 P8 Comment

C Brian McCann ATL R5 P8 Commen



2 top catchers - first time for everything in a 12 team league with only 24 catchers being drafted, catchers should slip considerably. in the 12 teamer i won last year, i punted catchers till the end. in the 12 teamers i lost, i took catchers early.

Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by ralfel:

Final Roster

Pos Name Team Pick

C Victor Martinez BOS R3 P8 Comment

C Brian McCann ATL R5 P8 Commen



2 top catchers - first time for everything in a 12 team league with only 24 catchers being drafted, catchers should slip considerably. in the 12 teamer i won last year, i punted catchers till the end. in the 12 teamers i lost, i took catchers early. [/QUOTE]Do you consider McCann - who I believe you took at 2/3 turn in the Main last year - at pick 50 early?

Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by ralfel:

Final Roster

Pos Name Team Pick

C Victor Martinez BOS R3 P8 Comment

C Brian McCann ATL R5 P8 Commen



2 top catchers - first time for everything in a 12 team league with only 24 catchers being drafted, catchers should slip considerably. in the 12 teamer i won last year, i punted catchers till the end. in the 12 teamers i lost, i took catchers early. [/QUOTE]This was my first 12 team/double play draft. I didn't know where the catchers would be drafted and since we are playing for an overall prize, I figured punting catchers would hurt me overall. In the past I have mostly drafted crappy catchers, I figured I would pick some better ones this time.

Originally posted by Head 2 Head:

quote:Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by ralfel:

Final Roster

Pos Name Team Pick

C Victor Martinez BOS R3 P8 Comment

C Brian McCann ATL R5 P8 Commen



2 top catchers - first time for everything in a 12 team league with only 24 catchers being drafted, catchers should slip considerably. in the 12 teamer i won last year, i punted catchers till the end. in the 12 teamers i lost, i took catchers early. [/QUOTE]Do you consider McCann - who I believe you took at 2/3 turn in the Main last year - at pick 50 early? [/QUOTE]we are talking a 12 teamer, correct?



50 seems like a value pick, depends on who he passed on. again, with only 24 catchers being selected, the "worst" catchers aren't that bad.



did i read it correctly, childs was in this draft at the 6 hole, and passed on both martinez and mccann? if so, that should be enough evidence.

Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Head 2 Head:

quote:Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by ralfel:

Final Roster

Pos Name Team Pick

C Victor Martinez BOS R3 P8 Comment

C Brian McCann ATL R5 P8 Commen



2 top catchers - first time for everything in a 12 team league with only 24 catchers being drafted, catchers should slip considerably. in the 12 teamer i won last year, i punted catchers till the end. in the 12 teamers i lost, i took catchers early. [/QUOTE]Do you consider McCann - who I believe you took at 2/3 turn in the Main last year - at pick 50 early? [/QUOTE]we are talking a 12 teamer, correct?



50 seems like a value pick, depends on who he passed on. again, with only 24 catchers being selected, the "worst" catchers aren't that bad.



did i read it correctly, childs was in this draft at the 6 hole, and passed on both martinez and mccann? if so, that should be enough evidence. [/QUOTE]Childs picked Mauer at R1 P6

Originally posted by ralfel:

quote:Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by ralfel:

Final Roster

Pos Name Team Pick

C Victor Martinez BOS R3 P8 Comment

C Brian McCann ATL R5 P8 Commen



2 top catchers - first time for everything in a 12 team league with only 24 catchers being drafted, catchers should slip considerably. in the 12 teamer i won last year, i punted catchers till the end. in the 12 teamers i lost, i took catchers early. [/QUOTE]This was my first 12 team/double play draft. I didn't know where the catchers would be drafted and since we are playing for an overall prize, I figured punting catchers would hurt me overall. In the past I have mostly drafted crappy catchers, I figured I would pick some better ones this time. [/QUOTE]position scarcity matters a lot less in a 12 teamer than a 15 teamer. in a 12 teamer, i try to go best available player (regardless of position). with so many good players available at the end, scarcity doesn't play a role IMO.



still, martinez and mccann "look good" were you got them.

Originally posted by ralfel:

Childs picked Mauer at R1 P6 looks like the big guy is making a couple mistakes so far. he has a week to correct.

Originally posted by ralfel:

quote:Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by ralfel:

Final Roster

Pos Name Team Pick

C Victor Martinez BOS R3 P8 Comment

C Brian McCann ATL R5 P8 Commen



2 top catchers - first time for everything in a 12 team league with only 24 catchers being drafted, catchers should slip considerably. in the 12 teamer i won last year, i punted catchers till the end. in the 12 teamers i lost, i took catchers early. [/QUOTE]This was my first 12 team/double play draft. I didn't know where the catchers would be drafted and since we are playing for an overall prize, I figured punting catchers would hurt me overall. In the past I have mostly drafted crappy catchers, I figured I would pick some better ones this time. [/QUOTE]There's nothing wrong with taking an edge at catcher. I took Mauer and Montero.



The draft didn't have a good flow to it. It is tough going from a 15 team mind set to a 12 team.



In these drafts, there are so many different ways to go to start your team. If you pick the right style and the draft breaks right, you could have a great team.



I wanted to start a team with Mauer at 6, but I wasn't planning on taking Ellsbury in the 2nd round. When the draft made it to the 5th round, I didn't like the start of my team so I gamble on Reyes.

Thanks for the tip

Originally posted by Head 2 Head:

quote:Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by ralfel:

Final Roster

Pos Name Team Pick

C Victor Martinez BOS R3 P8 Comment

C Brian McCann ATL R5 P8 Commen



2 top catchers - first time for everything in a 12 team league with only 24 catchers being drafted, catchers should slip considerably. in the 12 teamer i won last year, i punted catchers till the end. in the 12 teamers i lost, i took catchers early. [/QUOTE]Do you consider McCann - who I believe you took at 2/3 turn in the Main last year - at pick 50 early? [/QUOTE]i also said in an earlier chat that i'd be looking at mccann in the 4th round this year (doubt he gets there). that would put him around pick 45-50 in a 15 teamer. at least in my book.

Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by ralfel:

quote:Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by ralfel:

Final Roster

Pos Name Team Pick

C Victor Martinez BOS R3 P8 Comment

C Brian McCann ATL R5 P8 Commen



2 top catchers - first time for everything in a 12 team league with only 24 catchers being drafted, catchers should slip considerably. in the 12 teamer i won last year, i punted catchers till the end. in the 12 teamers i lost, i took catchers early. [/QUOTE]This was my first 12 team/double play draft. I didn't know where the catchers would be drafted and since we are playing for an overall prize, I figured punting catchers would hurt me overall. In the past I have mostly drafted crappy catchers, I figured I would pick some better ones this time. [/QUOTE]position scarcity matters a lot less in a 12 teamer than a 15 teamer. in a 12 teamer, i try to go best available player (regardless of position). with so many good players available at the end, scarcity doesn't play a role IMO.



still, martinez and mccann "look good" were you got them. [/QUOTE]I think you have this backwards, but what do I know.

Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by ralfel:

Childs picked Mauer at R1 P6 looks like the big guy is making a couple mistakes so far. he has a week to correct. [/QUOTE]You must be a rookie!

Originally posted by CC's Desperados:

quote:Originally posted by ralfel:

quote:Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by ralfel:

Final Roster

Pos Name Team Pick

C Victor Martinez BOS R3 P8 Comment

C Brian McCann ATL R5 P8 Commen



2 top catchers - first time for everything in a 12 team league with only 24 catchers being drafted, catchers should slip considerably. in the 12 teamer i won last year, i punted catchers till the end. in the 12 teamers i lost, i took catchers early. [/QUOTE]This was my first 12 team/double play draft. I didn't know where the catchers would be drafted and since we are playing for an overall prize, I figured punting catchers would hurt me overall. In the past I have mostly drafted crappy catchers, I figured I would pick some better ones this time. [/QUOTE]There's nothing wrong with taking an edge at catcher. I took Mauer and Montero.



The draft didn't have a good flow to it. It is tough going from a 15 team mind set to a 12 team.



In these drafts, there are so many different ways to go to start your team. If you pick the right style and the draft breaks right, you could have a great team.



I wanted to start a team with Mauer at 6, but I wasn't planning on taking Ellsbury in the 2nd round. When the draft made it to the 5th round, I didn't like the start of my team so I gamble on Reyes. [/QUOTE]I thought Ellsbury at R2P7 was a good pick and thought you were going for the player that could be leading the league in steals.

That pitcher run that guy went on really made my staff take a hit and everyone else in the leagues.



This was my first NFBC draft.



I know I need these upside pitchers to pan out but do you think I have enough speed?



C- R Martin 13.2

C- B. Posey 23.2/ K. Shoppach 24.11

1b-D. Lee 6.11

ci-T. Helton 14.11

2b-B. Zobrist 5.2

ss-H. Ramirez 1.2

mi-O. Cabrera 21.2

3b-M. Reynolds 2.11

of-G. Sizemore 3.2

of-I. Suzuki 4.11

of-C. Quentin 8.11

of-J. Bruce 10.11

of-C. Hart 18.11

u- G. Atkins 20.11



p-C. Kershaw 7.2

p-J. Jurrjens 9.2

p-M. Sherzer 12.11

p-C. Bucholz 15.2

p-M. Rzepczynski 22.11

p-J. Blanton 19.2

p-N. Feliz 17.2

p-J. Valverde 11.2

p-O. Dotel 16.11



bn-Z.Duke 25.2

bn-D. Matsuzaka 26.11

bn-C. Young (p) 27.2

bn-B Morrow 28.11

bn-M. Bumgarner 29.2

bn-K. Matsui 30.11

bn-Posey/Shoppach