Gekko- Your Team

M Co · Post by **M Co** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 8:55 am

This was pointed out on another thread, and I checked New York, League 4, and saw this:

Incredible Hulking Us NY

ActivateJamie MoyerP4/05/2010 2:29 PM ET

Incredible Hulking Us NY

BenchVicente PadillaBench4/05/2010 2:29 PM ET

Since Gekko likes to come on here and talk about his teams, I thought I'd give him a chance to explain his brilliant tactical move of deciding one hour after the Padilla game started, that after deep reflection, Moyer was the better play than the Padilla double.

Timcards · Post by **Timcards** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 8:59 am

Wow, I wonder if karma will be a bitch.

Oaktown · Post by **Oaktown** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:01 am

If this is true, wow. I know this was technically allowable with the FAAB stuff, but it was also stated these switches would be looked at. No way can it be justified that someone would use a single from Jamie Moyer who they JUST picked up over Padilla who they drafted a week earlier and he had 2 starts.

Wow....I guess the roto gods will have to have the final say, but really shady of someone to do. As tempting as it would be, I have to think most NFBC participants wouldnt have used this loophole and to such an obvious degree. I know I wouldn't.

DoubleX · Post by **DoubleX** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:03 am

Interesting move to say the least.

I will reserve my comments and wait to hear more about Moyer starting over a drafted 2-step pitcher as well.

thinkjohn · Post by **thinkjohn** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:12 am

Originally posted by DoubleX:

Interesting move to say the least.

I will reserve my comments and wait to hear more about Moyer starting over a drafted 2-step pitcher as well. I am in this league and tried to get this reversed as well to no avail.

Dirt Dogs · Post by **Dirt Dogs** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:15 am

Nothing to see here, please keep moving, nothing to see...

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:24 am

Originally posted by Oaktown:

I know this was technically allowable with the FAAB stuff The answer to the question is right here. After FAAB ran I crossreferenced my screenshots with the faab results for each of my 5 faab leagues. After that, I tried to access the "lineups" page, but that was "locked" by fanball. Eventually I was able to get to my lineups and identify lineup changes based on the late FAAB results. I emailed those changes to the Commish Office as soon as I had them ready. I believe there was a decent lag time between when I sent the email to when the changes were actually made.

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:26 am

Originally posted by thinkjohn:

quote:Originally posted by DoubleX:

Interesting move to say the least.

I will reserve my comments and wait to hear more about Moyer starting over a drafted 2-step pitcher as well. I am in this league and tried to get this reversed as well to no avail. [/QUOTE]get them reversed?? you'd have better luck trying to have matt holliday's hr from last night reversed.

Piggy · Post by **Piggy** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:29 am

You told me to "trust you" Greg when I said I was worried about folks doing this...later you said you were not going to force folks to play somebody and we needed to trust the integrity of folks...not jumping on you Greg, just discussing it...bottom line is you find out alot about folkz in situations like this, and Gekko, this says alot about you if this did happen...looks like you are the type of person who would see an old lady drop a $20 bill and instead of telling her about it, you would just stick it in your pocket and go buy a super sized combo meal and a "Juggs" magazine...I want to say more about this but I think what you did pretty much speaks for itself and as far as your integrity, well you answered that question too...

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:30 am

Originally posted by Dirt Dogs:

Nothing to see here, please keep moving, nothing to see... ya, i know. i wasn't even going to respond. next up, people are going to get their panties in a bunch because jeff clement is only 1B eligible!

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:36 am

Originally posted by Piggy:

You told me to "trust you" Greg when I said I was worried about folks doing this...later you said you were not going to force folks to play somebody and we needed to trust the integrity of folks...not jumping on you Greg, just discussing it...bottom line is you find out alot about folkz in situations like this, and Gekko, this says alot about you if this did happen...looks like you are the type of person who would see an old lady drop a $20 bill and instead of telling her about it, you would just stick it in your pocket and go buy a super sized combo meal and a "Juggs" magazine...I want to say more about this but I think what you did pretty much speaks for itself and as far as your integrity, well you answered that question too... listen, you can say whatever you want to say. either way, i don't care. faab running late created a number of problems. i played by the rules. i don't feel like i have to continually defend myself here, so i'm done on this thread.

Quack & Willy · Post by **Quack & Willy** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:37 am

I smell a pile of sheet....man up like we did and take the Padilla beating

thinkjohn · Post by **thinkjohn** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:39 am

Originally posted by thinkjohn:

quote:Originally posted by DoubleX:

Interesting move to say the least.

I will reserve my comments and wait to hear more about Moyer starting over a drafted 2-step pitcher as well. I am in this league and tried to get this reversed as well to no avail. [/QUOTE]I think he may have done this more than once.

My league, the New York 1300 Mixed Auction, he picked up Moyer and started him for Pavano at 11:36 AM. This move was changed at 2:30 to Start Moyer for Padilla.

That hurts double because Pavano went on to pitch a nice game.

Even worse is that I was in the same boat with Lannan. I picked him up and started him at 10:30 for Cliff Lee. This move was reset and I had it fixed the next day even though I knew Lannan was shelled.

Here is a nice post about Padilla...

http://nfbcboards.fanball.com/cgi-bin/u ... p=3#000030

Piggy · Post by **Piggy** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:43 am

Yeah,,,run away like a lil b-itch...

M Co · Post by **M Co** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:45 am

This is the Gekko quote linked above:

"it's kinda funny that i got blanton AND padilla on my second team, as i'm going out on a limb and saying padilla is this year's blanton.

move from AL to NL. Moved from extreme hitter's park to extreme pitcher's park. now pitching on great team.

look at padilla K9 and BB9 rate with move to dodgers last year. borderline GrEaT!. i see this spring his K9 and BB9 rate is tremendous again.

i got padilla on a lot of my teams. every big money one i believe"

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So apparently Gekko loves Padilla, takes him on all of his teams, and the decides that a double vs. Pit and Florida is not as good as a Moyer single. Wow. Fine, it's within the rules, maybe. But please, Gekko, don't come here starting any more threads taking the moral highground, because you have none.

The Mighty Men · Post by **The Mighty Men** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:46 am

Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Oaktown:

I know this was technically allowable with the FAAB stuff The answer to the question is right here. After FAAB ran I crossreferenced my screenshots with the faab results for each of my 5 faab leagues. After that, I tried to access the "lineups" page, but that was "locked" by fanball. Eventually I was able to get to my lineups and identify lineup changes based on the late FAAB results. I emailed those changes to the Commish Office as soon as I had them ready. I believe there was a decent lag time between when I sent the email to when the changes were actually made. [/QUOTE]This explanation makes sense.

But the real question was - Why start Moyer, when Padilla had 2 starts last week and you admitted you loved Padilla this year and drafted him on numerous teams? That is the part that makes no sense.

Quack & Willy · Post by **Quack & Willy** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:46 am

Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Piggy:

You told me to "trust you" Greg when I said I was worried about folks doing this...later you said you were not going to force folks to play somebody and we needed to trust the integrity of folks...not jumping on you Greg, just discussing it...bottom line is you find out alot about folkz in situations like this, and Gekko, this says alot about you if this did happen...looks like you are the type of person who would see an old lady drop a $20 bill and instead of telling her about it, you would just stick it in your pocket and go buy a super sized combo meal and a "Juggs" magazine...I want to say more about this but I think what you did pretty much speaks for itself and as far as your integrity, well you answered that question too... listen, you can say whatever you want to say. either way, i don't care. faab running late created a number of loopholes for me to manipulate. i played by only the rules I want to. i don't feel like i have to continually defend myself when I am guilty here, so i'm done on this thread. [/QUOTE]

Scott Boras · Post by **Scott Boras** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:49 am

Originally posted by The Mighty Men:

quote:Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Oaktown:

I know this was technically allowable with the FAAB stuff The answer to the question is right here. After FAAB ran I crossreferenced my screenshots with the faab results for each of my 5 faab leagues. After that, I tried to access the "lineups" page, but that was "locked" by fanball. Eventually I was able to get to my lineups and identify lineup changes based on the late FAAB results. I emailed those changes to the Commish Office as soon as I had them ready. I believe there was a decent lag time between when I sent the email to when the changes were actually made. [/QUOTE]This explanation makes sense.

But the real question was - Why start Moyer, when Padilla had 2 starts last week and you admitted you loved Padilla this year and drafted him on numerous teams? That is the part that makes no sense. [/QUOTE]Because Padilla got BOMBED. Like, DUH...

Oaktown · Post by **Oaktown** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:51 am

Playing by the rules maybe....but talk about going against the good faith and real intention of the rules. Wow.

Quack & Willy · Post by **Quack & Willy** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:53 am

Originally posted by M Co:

This is the Gekko quote linked above:

"it's kinda funny that i got blanton AND padilla on my second team, as i'm going out on a limb and saying padilla is this year's blanton.

move from AL to NL. Moved from extreme hitter's park to extreme pitcher's park. now pitching on great team.

look at padilla K9 and BB9 rate with move to dodgers last year. borderline GrEaT!. i see this spring his K9 and BB9 rate is tremendous again.

i got padilla on a lot of my teams. every big money one i believe"

---

So apparently Gekko loves Padilla, takes him on all of his teams, and the decides that a double vs. Pit and Florida is not as good as a Moyer single. Wow. Fine, it's within the rules, maybe. But please, Gekko, don't come here starting any more threads taking the moral highground, because you have none. Greg, if that doesn't sum up the situation, not sure what can...this is deception at its finest.

Scott Boras · Post by **Scott Boras** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:58 am

Before this gets out of hand, the situation does get thicker. If team stats are showing correctly, Mark does have teams in which he did start Padilla last week and he was left in. If he was gaming the system, why wouldn't he have benched Padilla on all of his teams?

bustouts · Post by **bustouts** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:58 am

wow thats the lowest of the low in this game, but unfortunately, im sure hes not alone. Its nice to see peoples true colors though.

Layin'theSmackDown · Post by **Layin'theSmackDown** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 10:03 am

Originally posted by Scott Boras:

Before this gets out of hand, the situation does get thicker. If team stats are showing correctly, Mark does have teams in which he did start Padilla last week and he was left in. If he was gaming the system, why wouldn't he have benched Padilla on all of his teams? from the sounds of it, you'd have to check to see if any pitchers were faab'd on those teams

Oaktown · Post by **Oaktown** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 10:03 am

Originally posted by Scott Boras:

Before this gets out of hand, the situation does get thicker. If team stats are showing correctly, Mark does have teams in which he did start Padilla last week and he was left in. If he was gaming the system, why wouldn't he have benched Padilla on all of his teams? Maybe he didnt add an SP in that league? Who knows.

My only question is why he sat Padilla for 2 for Jamie Moyer for 1? The answer is obvious, I know, because there isn't a second answer.

But, technically this was ok by the rules, my issue is not with Gekko (although I wouldn't have done it). Can't deny he was technically allowed to make this request.

Quack & Willy · Post by **Quack & Willy** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 10:05 am

Originally posted by bustouts:

wow thats the lowest of the low in this game, but unfortunately, im sure hes not alone. Its nice to see peoples true colors though. agreed, and especially when the one caught in this situation is one of the loudest crying about being wronged in the past. Someone has now being outed for the true person they are behind the computer screen.