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Each week, we'll showcase some of the top FAAB pickups in each league so that everyone can stay up to speed with some of the new acquisitions. Here's the going rate in each NFBC league for the most sought-after free agents:



Chicago League 1: Royal Pain Ryan Wagner 189; Non Dairy Creamers Chien-Ming Wang 63; www.RotoRank.com Chris Reitsma 57; Mr RippA'z Zimnox Antonio Perez 55; Mr RippA'z Zimnox Luis A. Gonzalez 55.



Chicago League 2: slopshot Bill Hall 146; Cheap Seat Chuggers Coco Crisp 88; Cheap Seat Chuggers Aaron Hill 44.



Chicago League 3: Team Tavoso Bob Howry 111; Team Tavoso Jesse Crain 111; Team Gillespie Josh Phelps 72; Team Tavoso David Weathers 71;

Fish Fry Jason Lane 69; THE ROID LESS TRAVELED Kelly Johnson 61; Team Gillespie Mark Bellhorn 52; Team Gillespie Hee Seop Choi 52.



Chicago League 4: Minute Men Josh Phelps 160; The Wood Shed John Patterson 145; Stargells Stars Antonio Perez 81; Stargells Stars LaTroy Hawkins 77; Dante's Screamers Kelly Johnson 44.



Las Vegas League 1: Ballfour Yadier Molina 72; KLN Rotomania Dan Johnson 69; CC's Desperados (NFBC) Noah Lowry 64; PezSox Kelly Johnson 61; Absolute Power Ronnie Belliard 51; Tragically WHIP`d Josh Phelps 42; PezSox Cory Lidle 41.



Las Vegas League 2: Doehler Bills Alex Gonzalez 124; Doehler Bills Bernie Williams 66; Doehler Bills David Weathers 64; FJ Fantasy Sports Ryan Langerhans 57; Long Gone Kelly Johnson 45.



Las Vegas League 3: Rototimes.com Coco Crisp 115; Leaderboard Vegas Reed Johnson 69; Leaderboard Vegas Jeremy Reed 69.



Las Vegas League 4: CLEMENZA Josh Phelps 67; CLEMENZA Jason Lane 64; DFW Rough Riders Antonio Perez 59; Kenmaur Square Kelly Johnson 55; Hell Bent For Leather Dave Williams 51; Kenmaur Square Bob Howry 40.



Las Vegas League 5: LB - Nookie Monsters LaTroy Hawkins 211; Hopping Buffaloes Kelly Johnson 189; Bigalupabarntools Ryan Langerhans 42.



Las Vegas League 6: Team Connors Lew Ford 334; SENATORS Cory Lidle 106; Team Longood Orlando Hudson 99; wemarriedshiksas Antonio Perez 81; Team Connors Reed Johnson 67; Team Cameron Ted Lilly 56; Team Throop and Davis Luis A. Gonzalez 49; Zefurs Josh Phelps 41; Team Connors Bob Howry 40.



Las Vegas League 7: Las Vegas Ratpack Chan Ho Park 207; Wiseguy Baseball Kelly Johnson 165; LB - Fortress Dyv Bill Hall 87; Coyotes Travis Lee 81; LB - Fortress Dyv David Weathers 58; Biffs FusterClucks Antonio Perez 51; cheers Junior Spivey 41.



Las Vegas League 8: Friends of Beaver Coco Crisp 189; Spongeworthy Bubble Boys Robinson Cano 56; Alien Legion Kelly Johnson 52; Friends of Beaver Brian Lawrence 51; LIPORAMA Dan Johnson 51; WEIRD SCIENCE Bill Hall 42; Friends of Beaver Noah Lowry 41; Draftin' Drunk LaTroy Hawkins 41.



Las Vegas League 9: SlackerBrothers Barry Bonds 401; gigglin marlin jamie Reed Johnson 163; Wise Guy Baseball Ryan Wagner 123; Some Assembly Required Antonio Perez 77; Wiz's LeaderboardSports Damion Easley 56; Wiz's LeaderboardSports Chris Reitsma 53.



New York League 1: SportsBuffsMrFantasy+Son Chris Reitsma 69; Crawdaddys Gustavo Chacin 50; Triple A Noah Lowry 49; Kings of Swing Bill Hall 47; Kickin' Chickens Kelly Johnson 47.



New York League 2: Marvelous Ones Coco Crisp 159; Incredible Hulking Us Antonio Perez 111; EspoPower Brian Moehler 102; Promontory Riders LaTroy Hawkins 71; Incredible Hulking Us Josh Phelps 61; EspoPower Dan Johnson 54; Mel's Farewell Jamie Moyer 45.



New York League 3: Yeti Baseball Coco Crisp 378; BLADES N BONES Antonio Perez 190; BLADES N BONES Bill Hall 160; Team Vella Kelly Johnson 91; Quahogs Dan Johnson 87; BLADES N BONES Brian Moehler 85; Yeti Baseball Greg Aquino 76; BLADES N BONES Jerome Williams 70; Motown Sounds Mike Lamb 60; Red Stocking Stables Hayden Penn 42; Team Vella Chan Ho Park 41.



New York League 4: Second Chance Coco Crisp 409; 75 Pound Mel-Contents David Weathers 103; Fightin' Amish Bill Hall 81; Fightin' Amish Dan Johnson 71; Fightin' Amish Reed Johnson 63; M&M Boys Cory Lidle 57; Kings of Queens Kelly Johnson 46.



New York League 5: Moneymaker Coco Crisp 472; The Well-Oiled Machine Rodrigo Lopez 201; Team Zwickel Jeremy Reed 185; Team Cummings LaTroy Hawkins 111; Team QQQ David Weathers 89; UES Banshees Danny Haren 76; UES Banshees Dan Johnson 76; The Well-Oiled Machine Nate Robertson 71; Team QQQ Kelly Johnson 51; TOWNIES Victor Santos 50.



New York League 6: CREATiVESPORTS Walton Lew Ford 326; MT Pockets Reed Johnson 102; MONEYBALL Bill Hall 87; the disabled list Danny Haren 72;

MT Pockets Dan Johnson 68; MT Pockets Yadier Molina 57; POCKET ACES Gustavo Chacin 41.



New York League 7: BAD[ass]ANGELS Ryan Wagner 144; Prospectors Antonio Perez 96; Florida Wave Riders Brian Moehler 59; Bad Boys Chris Reitsma 59.



Ultimate Draft League: Las Vegas Gamblers Ryan Wagner 255; Up From The Grave Bill Hall 87; KLN Ultimate Dan Johnson 81; La Jolla Lux (Ultimate) Bob Howry 73; Red Sox Nation Aaron Hill 58; Red Sox Nation Noah Lowry 55; RoundTrippers Mike Matheny 51; The Lollygaggers - Ult David Weathers 44.



Ultimate Auction League: LIPORAMA U Gustavo Chacin 111; Kings of Queens Josh Phelps 79; Long Gone Kelly Johnson 71; Kings of Queens David Weathers 48.



Las Vegas Mixed Auction League 1: 85cards Mike Hampton 213; Team Connors Jayson Werth 203; Hopping Buffaloes Kelly Johnson 189; Team Connors Jody Gerut 152; Boo Boo Coco Crisp 110; Hopping Buffaloes Cory Lidle 59; Mashers David Weathers 43; Hopping Buffaloes Daniel Cabrera 41; Team Connors David Riske 40.



Las Vegas Mixed Auction League 2: Puffins Garrett Atkins 331; cheers Josh Phelps 101; CREATiVESPORTS Ted Lilly 73; Sackofpotatoes Kelly Johnson 55; Oboys David Weathers 44.



Las Vegas NL Auction League: RoundTrippers Kelly Johnson 159; The Red Wolf Brendan Harris 77.



Las Vegas AL Auction League: Team Levitz Hayden Penn 101.



Las Vegas $1,250 NL Auction League 1: Wise Guy John Kelly Johnson 444; Wise Guy John Kirk Rueter 111; Zefurs Eric Bruntlett 41.



Las Vegas $1,250 NL Auction League 2: Barry's Juice Kelly Johnson 261;

Walla Walla Oscar Robles 202; Barry's Juice David Weathers 111.



Las Vegas $1,250 AL Auction League: Look Up - See Dyv John Olerud 177; CC's Desperados-ALAuction Brian Tallet 59.



New York/Chicago NL Auction League: Brooklyn Blues Kelly Johnson 159;

High Rollers Sergio Mitre 121; High Rollers Jason Jennings 121; Team Zwickel David Weathers 75.



New York/Chicago Mixed Auction League: La Jolla Lux (Auction) Coco Crisp 138; Kings of Queens Josh Phelps 79; The New Mets Nate Robertson 51; Kings of Queens Kelly Johnson 49; La Jolla Lux (Auction) Jorge Cantu 47; La Jolla Lux (Auction) Bob Howry 47.



New York AL Auction League: BAD[ass]ANGELS John Olerud 149; Team Fandango Ramon Martinez 48.

Originally posted by :

B.Bonds on Waivers? Dude is in rehab right now - about to SHOCK THE WORLD!



Well, I keep telling myself that.



I wonder who Bonds was dropped to acquire... and what the team owner KEPT as Barry was let go.



Dave

I think I dropped Ishii for Bonds ... not a bad move



SlackerDan

Originally posted by :

B.Bonds on Waivers? We are definitely looking this over. My apologies for missing this last week. I'll have an updated reply soon.

Just the fact that the team dropping BONDS is in 289 Overall should preclude him from making this move.



Thanks and have a nice day.

Crazytown absolutely hit the nail on the head.

Bonds just went from team #289 to team #39. hmmmm



Please do not think that SlackerBrothers did anything wrong by bidding on Bonds. A guy got dropped and we bid on him. We bid 401 and had the highest bid.



The next bid was only $56 ... Dont you think everyone in the league should have bid on him? Why would $56 be the second bid? Looks like about 13 other teams in LV9 were not interested.



We play this game fair and 100% by the book!!!



Please do NOT think any different.



SlackerDan

Why was Mike Hampton dropped in any league ? B. Lyon has 13 saves... why would he be dropped ? Why would John Patterson be dropped ?



Is it in the rules that certain players can not be dropped ?



Do I think Bonds should have been dropped ? Not if he was on my team ...



The bigger issue is that we spent 401 and because of that did not bet large on any of the other players in the pool for last week... ie: I lost out a Ryan Wagner, as well as numerous others.



SlackerDan

Originally posted by SlackerDan:

Why was Mike Hampton dropped in any league ? B. Lyon has 13 saves... why would he be dropped ? Why would John Patterson be dropped ?



Is it in the rules that certain players can not be dropped ?



Do I think Bonds should have been dropped ? Not if he was on my team ...



The bigger issue is that we spent 401 and because of that did not bet large on any of the other players in the pool for last week... ie: I lost out a Ryan Wagner, as well as numerous others.



SlackerDan Dan, give me a call at 715-445-4612, ext. 284. I left a voice message and e-mail with Evan, but haven't heard back from him yet. Just give me a call and we'll talk this through professionally. Doing anything on the message boards doesn't make sense.

The team picking up Bonds has absolutely nothing to explain in my opinion. It is the team that dropped him that should be closely scrutinized. 401 dollars would not have gotten you him in a league with me. I hate it for Evan and Dan- 2 of the nicest guys I met in Vegas if they don't get him, but I do think he should have ever been allowed to be dropped in the first place.

Bonds will be returned to his original lineup in LV 9. I have talked with Dan and he has been above the call of duty in understanding my reasoning. First class all the way and in no way is any blame pointed their way. It's pointed all our way for missing this cut, Tom and I.



I will finalize this move with STATS tomorrow and explain more. As per our rules, I do have the authority to prevent cuts that I feel damage the integrity of the overall contest and this roster has several other options for cuts other than Bonds. It was our fault for not jumping in last week before Bonds became available in FAAB. Again, our apologies to Dan and Evan and to LV 9 for not stepping in when we should have.

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

Bonds will be returned to his original lineup in LV 9. I have talked with Dan and he has been above the call of duty in understanding my reasoning. First class all the way and in no way is any blame pointed their way. It's pointed all our way for missing this cut, Tom and I.



I will finalize this move with STATS tomorrow and explain more. As per our rules, I do have the authority to prevent cuts that I feel damage the integrity of the overall contest and this roster has several other options for cuts other than Bonds. It was our fault for not jumping in last week before Bonds became available in FAAB. Again, our apologies to Dan and Evan and to LV 9 for not stepping in when we should have. Greg, 30 lashes with a wet noodle for you AND Tom.



You and I both know Barry is still good for 30 HR this year



lol



Dave

I call B.S.!

Where does it end- which player is "too good" to be dropped? This was suppose to be a hyper competitive league.

Didn't we all think we were so called "experts" for joining this league? I did, I won my 18 team mixed league 3 times in 5 years with better owners than this league can offer. We don't give "do-overs" in that league if an owners does something stupid. We are all so called experts and should be allowed to manage our teams accordingly. Should the retards that paid over $300 for adam bernero get their faab back for their stupid bids? Of course not. Everyone is all worked up because of the name game- Bonds. Stats are stats. Stats win titles not names.



Is this a cheesy free yahoo league? Where is the "can't cut list?"I didn't see any can't cut list when I joined this league.

What's next people that dropped Hampton get him back because he's pitching well?

If someone cuts damon hollins will he be returned to his org. owner? He does have 6 more homers than bonds this year...and will probably end with more homers than him.

Bonds is a 41 one year old roid rager with bad knees. Slackers should have to eat him and his zero's that stiff would give him. You guys in LV9 should want slacker to take that bench spot eating zero's instead of crying like a bunch of little babies.

Too bad their isn't trading maybe slacker could trade bonds and get back : burgos (175, macdougal over 200 and bernero well over 300) but then you guys might think dan is getting too much for bonds eh?



Count me out for next year. I thought this was a league full of competitors not babies.



p.s. Throop is my 'lady'

Theres actually somebody in this league that is not a complete suck up to the NFBC, im shocked ..........

Originally posted by Corkedbats:

I call B.S.!

Where does it end- which player is "too good" to be dropped? This was suppose to be a hyper competitive league.

Didn't we all think we were so called "experts" for joining this league? I did, I won my 18 team mixed league 3 times in 5 years with better owners than this league can offer. We don't give "do-overs" in that league if an owners does something stupid. We are all so called experts and should be allowed to manage our teams accordingly. Should the retards that paid over $300 for adam bernero get their faab back for their stupid bids? Of course not. Everyone is all worked up because of the name game- Bonds. Stats are stats. Stats win titles not names.



Is this a cheesy free yahoo league? Where is the "can't cut list?"I didn't see any can't cut list when I joined this league.

What's next people that dropped Hampton get him back because he's pitching well?

If someone cuts damon hollins will he be returned to his org. owner? He does have 6 more homers than bonds this year...and will probably end with more homers than him.

Bonds is a 41 one year old roid rager with bad knees. Slackers should have to eat him and his zero's that stiff would give him. You guys in LV9 should want slacker to take that bench spot eating zero's instead of crying like a bunch of little babies.

Too bad their isn't trading maybe slacker could trade bonds and get back : burgos (175, macdougal over 200 and bernero well over 300) but then you guys might think dan is getting too much for bonds eh?



Count me out for next year. I thought this was a league full of competitors not babies.



p.s. Throop is my 'lady' Do not let the door hit ya, where the good Lord split ya.

Originally posted by Corkedbats:

I call B.S.!

Where does it end- which player is "too good" to be dropped? This was suppose to be a hyper competitive league.

Didn't we all think we were so called "experts" for joining this league? I did, I won my 18 team mixed league 3 times in 5 years with better owners than this league can offer. We don't give "do-overs" in that league if an owners does something stupid. We are all so called experts and should be allowed to manage our teams accordingly. Should the retards that paid over $300 for adam bernero get their faab back for their stupid bids? Of course not. Everyone is all worked up because of the name game- Bonds. Stats are stats. Stats win titles not names.



Is this a cheesy free yahoo league? Where is the "can't cut list?"I didn't see any can't cut list when I joined this league.

What's next people that dropped Hampton get him back because he's pitching well?

If someone cuts damon hollins will he be returned to his org. owner? He does have 6 more homers than bonds this year...and will probably end with more homers than him.

Bonds is a 41 one year old roid rager with bad knees. Slackers should have to eat him and his zero's that stiff would give him. You guys in LV9 should want slacker to take that bench spot eating zero's instead of crying like a bunch of little babies.

Too bad their isn't trading maybe slacker could trade bonds and get back : burgos (175, macdougal over 200 and bernero well over 300) but then you guys might think dan is getting too much for bonds eh?



Count me out for next year. I thought this was a league full of competitors not babies.



p.s. Throop is my 'lady' All opinions are welcome. The integrity of the overall contest is more important than anything else. The owner who made this cut has plenty of other options on his reserve to cut other than Bonds. Yes, he wanted to pick up and activate Jason Dubois last week and that will be allowed, but there are other options outside of Bonds that this owner can cut without causing such a stir in the overall contest.

Ok Greg,

I just hope bonds is out for the year.

One question for you...let's say tomorrow espn reports bonds is out for the year, will it be ok for everyone to drop him then?



Then let's say 2 weeks later they report he'll be back? will you reverse all those moves too? Where does it end?



thanks,

Throop's daddy

Originally posted by :

quote:Originally posted by Corkedbats:

I won my 18 team mixed league 3 times in 5 years with better owners than this league can offer. i won my 20 team mixed league 5 times in 5 year with better owners than your league [/QUOTE]I won my 6 team baseball card flipping league 12 years in a row with better owners than your league.



AND my Dad can kick your Dad's ass.



Dyv

Originally posted by Corkedbats:

Ok Greg,

I just hope bonds is out for the year.

One question for you...let's say tomorrow espn reports bonds is out for the year, will it be ok for everyone to drop him then?



Then let's say 2 weeks later they report he'll be back? will you reverse all those moves too? Where does it end?



thanks,

Throop's daddy You hope Bonds will be out for the year? Ok, rot in hell then. No more playing nice here - Bonds is the man. I defy you to take roids and hit 20 HR in the big leagues. Bonds will come back at the All Star break and probably hit 25 HR in the 2nd half. His knee infection was unfortunate and very dangerous, but it DID allow the rest of his body to heal up appropriately whereas he may have rushed it otherwise.



If you don't trust Greg to make the right decisions then don't play next year. I'm sure we'll all miss you and your 'rave against the man' mantras.



You da man, you rebel you...



Barry Dyv

Originally posted by Corkedbats:

Ok Greg,

I just hope bonds is out for the year.

One question for you...let's say tomorrow espn reports bonds is out for the year, will it be ok for everyone to drop him then?



Then let's say 2 weeks later they report he'll be back? will you reverse all those moves too? Where does it end?



thanks,

Throop's daddy Yes, it's possible that Bonds will be allowed to be cut after this. At this point, he has the potential to come back and dominate three categories by himself and it's not fair to the 19 other leagues who don't have a chance to pick up a free agent like this in their individual leagues. But another factor in this case is that this owner has many other players he can cut other than Bonds, which factors into my decision here. Listen, he also has Rocco Baldelli and Magglio Ordonez on his reserve roster now and if he's going to cut someone that he's kept this long, why is it Bonds? I'm comfortable making this decision today, but you are correct that in a few weeks if Bonds' status changes this same owner may be allowed to cut Bonds if I feel it won't hurt the chances of all 285 other owners not in LV 9 to fairly win the $100,000.



No, I won't rule based on ESPN reports. If he's allowed to be cut -- such as we've allowed with Garciaparra, Ordonez and others -- then that ruling will be final. Then it's buyer beware.

I can honestly say that all of these injuries make it tough when analyzing the cuts. Brandon Lyon is another example we'll have to deal with soon. I will write about this tomorrow on another thread and possibly add a thought on our rules. We do not try to get involved in the moves of these leagues and on most injuries we've allowed the owners to manage their teams. But again, Bonds is too big of a wild card at this point to allow this particular cut when the most sensible move is to allow this owner to still retain the player he acquired via free agency and cut someone else on his reserve roster. If the prognosis changes on Bonds in a few days or weeks, this owner will still have the opportunity to deal with Bonds as he sees fits. At no point did the move we make today affect any of the stats, since Bonds was inactive all the time anyway. The ones who were hurt were Dan and Evan Satinoff, who bid differently this week thinking that Bonds was available in LV 9. To them, I sincerely apologize for our miscue last week.