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I've been following this and I don't see one top fantasy player signed up. I wish Greg and Tom

would put more input toward the NFFC and forget about trying to make a few bucks on a mid season baseball draft. It really lowers the standard.

I know Greg will come back with some shill remark but the fact is mid season games have no place in a championship format!!!

Maybe I'm a loser. But I always state my name

(John Crane) here. Win or lose I'll never be the kind that is scared to put his name on the line.

Originally posted by Walla Walla:

I've been following this and I don't see one top fantasy player signed up. I wish Greg and Tom

would put more input toward the NFFC and forget about trying to make a few bucks on a mid season baseball draft. It really lowers the standard.

I know Greg will come back with some shill remark but the fact is mid season games have no place in a championship format!!! John, you know I always appreciate honest comments and I have no problem with you objecting to the mid-season game. I remember last baseball season when Ken Bayes said he hoped we wouldn't do a football event because it might take away from our attention on the NFBC. We did football and it obviously didn't hurt baseball, in fact it brought in new participants for both. Tom and I are also publishing nine different fantasy football titles over an eight week period along with trying to run two events and the mid-season leagues, so we know how to juggle things pretty well around here.



I'm not sure how the mid-season league is taking our attention away from the NFBC or the NFFC, but you have a right to your opinion. And as far as not having any of the name players in these contests, I have no idea what you're talking about there. We have a lot of past champions and guys who are doing very, very well this year. No matter how many leagues we end up with, they'll be well run and a lot of fun.



Mid-season leagues also have the potential to allow people to try out our 15-team NFBC format who may not have participated in the main event. I see these type of satellite leagues as potentially feeder leagues to help grow the main event. In fact, I can see us doing more online contests in the future as we continue to grow.



It's okay if you don't participate in these as we'll catch up with you in football in Las Vegas. We're going to sell that one out just like we did in baseball...and in the meantime we'll have a good time with those participants who want a second chance in a mid-season league.

I love the comment about not seeing "one top fantasy player" signed up. Don't check the message boards that often, but things like this make it worth it. Good stuff. Personally, I'd only do it if a few of the top 20 ranked fantasy players (I assume Walla Walla keeps the list) were in. Greg and Tom, great job running this thing, thanks personally for getting us in as the last team entered, and way to get other leagues going that people who care nothing on football (or people who can pay attention to a few things at once) will enjoy. Rather than enter myself in midseason, I'll prefer to wallow in what might have been if my team had stayed even moderately healthy beyond the first month. I have no doubt seeing how smoothly this went off that you'll be able to run both midseason leagues and football leagues. Maybe limos next year to the drafts for the "top fantasy players." Or, better yet, win a weekend with a top fantasy player in their mom's basement. Lol.

Sorry, not sure the above was sufficiently inflammatory, so here goes: while I know a number of very bright and seemingly very good people who love fantasy football, and I myself have won an all expenses paid trip to Hawaii for a week for the probowl playing and continue to play (and win a lot), it is so inferior to baseball it's laughable. Not only do you play less players over a far shorter period once a week, when you do well (generally led by one or two players), you can get smoked in a luckfest one or two week playoffs. 23 players over 162 games is a marginally (the margin being light years) superior test to 8 over 16 games, and baseball midseason is still exponentially better. A two week fantasy baseball season would be a better test than a year long football season. (May have gone overboard with that last one.) One of these years I will quit fantasy football altogether. As is, I recognize it as a somewhat interesting diversion until spring training, and think those that think it in any way superior to baseball likely are those that prefer keno to other forms of gambling.

Originally posted by Walla Walla:

I've been following this and I don't see one top fantasy player signed up. I wish Greg and Tom

would put more input toward the NFFC and forget about trying to make a few bucks on a mid season baseball draft. It really lowers the standard.

I know Greg will come back with some shill remark but the fact is mid season games have no place in a championship format!!! Perhaps WAlla WAlla could indicate what activities have gone untended by Greg and Tom...



Sending out magazines? No, I think they reported that as done.



Setting up the types of leagues and payouts for 2005? No, I think that's done.



Announcing the times, dates and locations so that everybody can make their plans? No, I do believe that's been done.



Perhaps more thought could be put into the snack menu...yes, I think the snacks have taken a back seat. I expect a full report on what will be served with the free drinks.



I have lots of differences with Greg, particularly with rules, league sizes, etc. But to think for a moment that Krause should limit its product because of some "view" of what a championship game should include is absurd. This game is here because of the revenue opportunity, not because Krause thinks a Championship fantasy game is a good thing to do.

Originally posted by JerseyPaul:

quote:Originally posted by Walla Walla:

I've been following this and I don't see one top fantasy player signed up. I wish Greg and Tom

would put more input toward the NFFC and forget about trying to make a few bucks on a mid season baseball draft. It really lowers the standard.

I know Greg will come back with some shill remark but the fact is mid season games have no place in a championship format!!! Perhaps WAlla WAlla could indicate what activities have gone untended by Greg and Tom...



Sending out magazines? No, I think they reported that as done.



Setting up the types of leagues and payouts for 2005? No, I think that's done.



Announcing the times, dates and locations so that everybody can make their plans? No, I do believe that's been done.



Perhaps more thought could be put into the snack menu...yes, I think the snacks have taken a back seat. I expect a full report on what will be served with the free drinks.



I have lots of differences with Greg, particularly with rules, league sizes, etc. But to think for a moment that Krause should limit its product because of some "view" of what a championship game should include is absurd. This game is here because of the revenue opportunity, not because Krause thinks a Championship fantasy game is a good thing to do. [/QUOTE]Jersey Paul well said, would have been even better if you did not hide behind your screen name- LOL



Also Hughes I am glad that I am not the only one who did not know there was a fantasy baseball hall of Fame either but a limo for the greats of the game is a great idea.



Someone has endured too much rain in Washington and is going stir crazy.

Originally posted by JerseyPaul:

quote:Originally posted by Walla Walla:

I've been following this and I don't see one top fantasy player signed up. I wish Greg and Tom

would put more input toward the NFFC and forget about trying to make a few bucks on a mid season baseball draft. It really lowers the standard.

I know Greg will come back with some shill remark but the fact is mid season games have no place in a championship format!!! Perhaps WAlla WAlla could indicate what activities have gone untended by Greg and Tom...



Sending out magazines? No, I think they reported that as done.



Setting up the types of leagues and payouts for 2005? No, I think that's done.



Announcing the times, dates and locations so that everybody can make their plans? No, I do believe that's been done.



Perhaps more thought could be put into the snack menu...yes, I think the snacks have taken a back seat. I expect a full report on what will be served with the free drinks.



I have lots of differences with Greg, particularly with rules, league sizes, etc. But to think for a moment that Krause should limit its product because of some "view" of what a championship game should include is absurd. This game is here because of the revenue opportunity, not because Krause thinks a Championship fantasy game is a good thing to do. [/QUOTE]True, snacks are being worked on for 2006 instead of the speakers. I should have known better to buy drinks and not have munchies included!

Man this guy is something else. If there is ever a crybaby post on the boards it's almost always from Walla. What is your obsession with including "the top fantasy players" in every league, if I remember, you were whining about the Ultimate leagues not having the best players and taking Greg's attention away from the Main Event back in March too. How does the mid season leagues lower any standards or take Greg's attention away from football. He runs a business that offers fantasy games to people, and if there is enough interest (which there is) for mid season leagues then why in the world would you care about who is playing in them? I think Greg has more to deal with than holding your hand all the time trying to appease someone who obviously has issues about everything.

Originally posted by Walla Walla:

I've been following this and I don't see one top fantasy player signed up.I guess your 14th place standing in the NL Auction league qualifies you to be a 'top fantasy player'.



Originally posted by Walla Walla:

I wish Greg and Tom

would put more input toward the NFFC and forget about trying to make a few bucks on a mid season baseball draft. It really lowers the standard. The only way they are lowering their standards are by actually replying to this ridiculous post.



:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

John Crane aka Walla,



While this is a game to us, it is a career to some. Give this a thought a guy had an idea took it to his bosses and sold it, that idea did not generate the revenue year 1 that he had hoped but still convinced his bosses to keep the payouts the same. I was not here but that is the way I understand it. Now you are going to publicly begrudge him for trying to put together something to generate some additional revenue in year 2, in that he is just marketing it for the most part to existing customers who are obviously demonstrating a demand for it.

Yeah I signed up. Thats why mid-season sucks. I fall for it every time!