Where did I go wrong? MAIN Event

Head 2 Head · Post by **Head 2 Head** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 6:20 am

Looking for some input on where I went wrong and being in 389th place must mean I did NOTHING right on draft day.

Pick 9 – Rollins. I was surprised he was still on the board at that point and thought that the Phillies had a decent lineup and that he would be leading off.

Pick 22 – With Rollins (leadoff hitter) on board I was thinking that Power and BA were my main needs in the second round and Carlos Lee was suppose to be a plus average Power Hitter.

Pick 39 – I wanted Alexie at this point, but after my awful pitching numbers last year (every year) thought that CC would be a great anchor for my staff. Like that he goes deep into games and thought he was the only pitcher that could K over 250 and with the Yankee offense that 20 wins wasn’t that big of a reach.

Pick 52 – Trying to get a reasonable balance between Speed and Power in the early rounds I thought McLouth, a three hitter with 20/20 skills should keep my lineup balanced.

Pick 69 – How can the 69th pick be a bad thing? I took my top ranked Closer as I thought that only a handful had certain closer roles. Nathan gave me a top RP to go with a top SP and would mean that I wouldn’t have to chase any pitching over the next three or four rounds (when all the solid closers would go).

Pick 82 – MI looked weak to me this year and Uggla looked to be the top Power MI in the draft. Uggla is one of my least favorite players, but I like his power numbers. I knew that this would mean that I would need to go after BA to make up for this pick, but was targeting Mauer (man crush) anyway.

Pick 99 - Mauer (At least I still have reason to believe my team will improve its BA)

Pick 112 – Cano – I thought MI was weak and that Cano should rebound to his plus BA levels and as the everyday 2B in NY he should get solid runs and RBI.

Pick 129 – Dice-DL, here I had a tier of SP that I wanted and with CC on board and drafting near the middle I was looking for SP to slip to me. If I didn’t have CC, I would have went for Dicey at least a round earlier – I was impressed with the changes I thought I saw in the WBC (going after hitters more aggressively).

Pick 142 – Cliff Lee. Didn’t really like or want him, but he was the last SP in my tier and was coming off the AL CY Young (The reason he was in that tier).

Pick 159 – Needed a CI and thought Beltre was a great deal and remember his last contract year. I thought that there were lots of solid CI (Giambi, Butler rostered on this team later among them) that would be available in the last third of the draft

Pick 172 – Fourth SP Verlander – was thinking he could rebound and that the Tigers would score enough to make him a winner. I wanted to have 4 SP that should total 700+ between them without giving up ERA or Whip.

Still seems to me (looking up from the bottom) that this was a solid start to the draft, but obviously I am wrong. At the draft the players seemed to fall to me and most on my picks were easy as I thought the player that I took was a no brainer (someone I was looking at the round – or more – before where I took them).

Fire away! (Thanks for your input)

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 6:34 am

Except for Cliff Lee, I would say to be patient.

Its only been 10 days.

As for Lee, The Magical Mystery Tour is over.

kgrady · Post by **kgrady** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 6:53 am

Originally posted by Head 2 Head:

Looking for some input on where I went wrong and being in 389th place must mean I did NOTHING right on draft day. Speaking from experience (unfortunately), you don't want to overreact to a poor start to the season. I'm at #371 overall thru 4/15. For whatever the reason, the past few years my team never gets the memo that the season actually begins before May 1st. These bad starts are depressing, especially when you've put in a lot of effort in preparation for the season.

In my case I have to keep telling myself that Dustin Pedroia won't bat .179 all year, and David Ortiz won't slug under .200, and Geovany Soto won't hit .100, and Brian Wilson won't go all season without a save opportunity, and Vladimir Guerrero won't hit a soft .250 all season, and Andy LaRoche won't go the entire year without a base hit. (Then again, in LaRoche's case I'm not so sure!) Yikes!

Kevin

Dirt Dogs · Post by **Dirt Dogs** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 7:37 am

Speaking of Brian Wilson...Has anyone seen him lately? He has been missing since April 1st, I think he has pitched 1 inning and is no where to be found. Will someone please help him find a few save chances in maybe the next 1-2 weeks.

to the guy who posted this thread, your top picks are good but it looks like you left off all the other picks after those guys and i'm assuming they are most likely the reason for your early decline. Hang in there, your guys wont hit .100 and Longoria wont hit 125 HR either.

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 7:37 am

Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

Except for Cliff Lee, I would say to be patient.

Its only been 10 days.

As for Lee, The Magical Mystery Tour is over. To quote Lee Corso...

"Not so fast my friend!"

Head 2 Head · Post by **Head 2 Head** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:24 am

Originally posted by Dirt Dogs:

to the guy who posted this thread, your top picks are good but it looks like you left off all the other picks after those guys and i'm assuming they are most likely the reason for your early decline. R Hernendez (c) Mathis (while Mauer is out)

Giambi, Butler, Nick Johnson (1B)

Tejeda (SS)

Nady (Ouch), Matsui, Spilbrough, Teahan (AAA McCutchen)

Litsch (DL), Blanton, Bush, Cahill and Hughes

Ziegler, Corpas

Dub · Post by **Dub** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:36 am

Originally posted by Head 2 Head:

Pick 142 – Cliff Lee. Didn’t really like or want him, but he was the last SP in my tier and was coming off the AL CY Young (The reason he was in that tier). Not trying to put a reason on your slow start, but I never understood why someone would draft a player they don't want or like because he is a good value?

Head 2 Head · Post by **Head 2 Head** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:27 am

Originally posted by Dub:

quote:Originally posted by Head 2 Head:

Pick 142 – Cliff Lee. Didn’t really like or want him, but he was the last SP in my tier and was coming off the AL CY Young (The reason he was in that tier). Not trying to put a reason on your slow start, but I never understood why someone would draft a player they don't want or like because he is a good value?

[/QUOTE]Because while I don't like him (Burned me before) I have him projected to have 3.77 ERA (higher then most I have seen) and 1.26 Whip (again higher) and with Clevelands projected offensive numbers that equals 14+ wins and with 6.63 k/9 (another thing not to like) over 190 IP he gets me 140 K's. Together his projected stats say top 30 SP to me. While I didn't go into the draft targeting him - I couldn't say NO in the 10th round. (Would like to see Main event ADP's as this sure seemed like a ADP value)

Glenneration X · Post by **Glenneration X** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:42 am

I would seriously doubt there were too many pitchers of Cliff Lee's value left in the 10th round....that's a good pick, especially today.

Bobby J · Post by **Bobby J** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:27 am

what is wrong with being at the bottom during week 2, if I recall I was in the bottom five after 2 weeks last year and made it all the way to the top, so do not give up, it is a very long season

Ryan C · Post by **Ryan C** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:29 am

Originally posted by Head 2 Head:

quote:Originally posted by Dub:

quote:Originally posted by Head 2 Head:

Pick 142 – Cliff Lee. Didn’t really like or want him, but he was the last SP in my tier and was coming off the AL CY Young (The reason he was in that tier). Not trying to put a reason on your slow start, but I never understood why someone would draft a player they don't want or like because he is a good value?

[/QUOTE]Because while I don't like him (Burned me before) I have him projected to have 3.77 ERA (higher then most I have seen) and 1.26 Whip (again higher) and with Clevelands projected offensive numbers that equals 14+ wins and with 6.63 k/9 (another thing not to like) over 190 IP he gets me 140 K's. Together his projected stats say top 30 SP to me. While I didn't go into the draft targeting him - I couldn't say NO in the 10th round. (Would like to see Main event ADP's as this sure seemed like a ADP value) [/QUOTE]Gotta be patient with Lee - he going to be fine - not as dominant as last year but fine. A lot of good pitchers are going to get their heads handed to them by the Rangers lineup this year.

Dyv · Post by **Dyv** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:32 pm

Seriously, just be patient. I don't think your team is awesome, but it's certainly not going to be one of the worst teams when the season is done.

Then again, my team got laughed at on draft day by more than one person and I'm in the top 20 or so overall, so perhaps as I fall you and I can wave at each other on the way through

Or perhaps nobody should worry - keep putting in good players and in the end, the 10% luck and 90% player evaluation and in-season management will level itself out.

Good luck sir,

Dyv

Dub · Post by **Dub** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 4:29 pm

I agree with everyone here- stay calm its very early. Me- I like to go to war with player I like to root for. 10th round comps= Josh Johnson, Meche, Lilly, Dempster, Cain, Lowe, Slowely.

Now- I am not saying that anyone of of these guys will perform better than Lee-They might or they might not, but there has to be one you can "like" and root for and will give you similar quality?

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 6:28 pm

Interesting to see the varying opinions on Cliff Lee.

For my part, I think we will see Lee, circa 2006. It seems most believe it'll be circa 2005, while nobody believes it'll be circa 2008.

The circa lobby offered me a penny for each time I use the word, circa.

TOXIC ASSETS · Post by **TOXIC ASSETS** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:35 pm

Gotta hang in there, way too early to panic. I am in a satelite league and have Sabathia, wouldn't worry about him. Carlos Lee's numbers will be there in the end also. Lee was one of the safest picks on the board and he could get hot at any moment. I don't like the Rollins pick at 1.9, he was coming off a bad year...I would personally gone for a Johan Santana (if available) or someone else at that spot. Good luck.

MichiganFantasyTeam · Post by **MichiganFantasyTeam** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:09 am

I don't like the Rollins pick at 1.9, he was coming off a bad year...I would personally gone for a Johan Santana (if available) or someone else at that spot. Good luck

Now this was a funny post!

This reminds me of the outcome after buying a new car or house. Someone always tells you... "you should have told me I know a guy who knows a guy that could have gotten you a way better deal"

So you would have taken J. Santana with the 9th pick. Of course you would have on April 17th! Everyone would have. I highly doubt Santana was taken before Rollins in any league conducted in fantasy baseball. Why didn't you give us your insight before the drafts?

You could have told me Tiexira and Holliday were going to be busts, and they were 5th and 6th rounders. I should have taken J Santana and Longoria.

Let's wait until the All-Star break to call players busts.

Except Wang...he needs two no-hitters in a row to make his owners crack a smile.

TOXIC ASSETS · Post by **TOXIC ASSETS** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:01 am

Not that I'm a genius, but I did draft Santana at 1.8 in my satelite leauge. That guy was just about the safest pick on the board.